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  1. There were 6 options iirc but Doncaster threw 5 of them out and only put one to the board,that's not a choice,that's a dictat. Couple of probs wi the Times article for me,1 Rangers were bought out of admin and not liquidated. 2. How could the SPFL decide that no-one should lose out but it's fine if one club gains thru this debacle?
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  2. Mibbe.. we have a better goalie than the tarriers. we have better full backs than the tarriers. Centre halfs are much of a muchness. Jack playing CDM is better than Brown. Morelos/Edouard not much in it if anything. Mcgregor/Christie and Forrest - then Rogic and Ntcham -as back-ups the big differences between two squads.
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  3. A lot of people missing a huge point here. We have players getting paid VAST wages. Not one would have encountered hardship on £2,500 per month if they were furloughed. I am self employed. I have had zero income since mid March. I qualify for zero assistance under legislation. But - I am getting fuck all refund from Rangers for cancelled games, and I am now expected to pay my next season ticket before end of June when fully attended games are unlikely to happen until the autumn at the very earliest and possibly much later in the year. On top of that, I'm now expected to pay a fee to go into the same away ticket ballot that I have been in for umpteen years. Or am I missing something?
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  4. Liewell looking to get the fixture list out quick. You can cancel one league game to play a friendly. Us away to them early in the season at Torbett Towers, behind closed doors, cancelled to play a friendly and the game only rescheduled after fans are allowed back in. Am I being cynical again?
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  5. The “three” who play behind the striker is the biggest difference between us and them by a mile.
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  6. You’re saying you wanted it to do better but then clogging up a thread in which the SLO is trying to help people sign up. Cut the personal abuse out @Courtyard Bear First and last warning.
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  7. Another great article ,but like the other nail on the head atrticles in the last week or so it’s a case of ,Where were they weeks ago when the content was still relevant ,most of the facts were known then . Instead of more articles like this drip dripping out now after the horse has bolted its time somebody in the MSM grew a set of balls and actually called things out for what they are ,There is a monopoly of control in this country from one man and it isn’t Doncaster ,If they don’t have the courage for that then at very least they need to be exposing Doncaster as the CEO as completely incompetent and his time is up , With drip drip that the tarriers as well as us need games in front of fans surely this exposes Lieswells plan on being handed a title as a serious own goal .Playing out the remaining fixtures behind closed doors early August would still have likely have given them the title and a title with credibility,Next season would have had less closed doors games bringing more cash into the game and the 10m needed paid back to TV would not have been a factor The only good these articles do is expose the incompetence and put pressure on for regime change ,The clowns who put the game in this position surely can’t be trusted to get us out of it
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  8. As I see it there are 3 reasons for rushing out a fixture list. Puts an end to reconstruction talks as next season (they will argue) is now set in stone. No matches at the crumbledome until fans are back. Behind closed doors is fine for Liewell's home fixtures against the likes of Hamilton or Livi but all money earning matches must be delayed as far as possible. Sends out the message that 'we are moving forward' and will not take any more dissension from the ranks.
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  9. Folk willing to pump in 7 figure sums yet we have no league sponsor. And we seem less than eager to grab any such financial windfall. Scottish football folks.
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  10. The challenge to cleanse the organisation of our game and restore true democracy is greater than the onfield task we face. They've had years to dig in and spread like a virus. Going to need strategic thinking, patience and a shitload of weed killer to get Scottish football’s playing field the way it should be. Especially as the parasite daddy clubs are less than useless.
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  11. Aye we would be the only Club charging into battle while the rest hid behind our skirts. So long as the donkey crew are at the top of the SPFL,nothing will change,the puppetmaster will make sure of that :-(
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  12. Doncaster could easily have shown many options for the way forward. He chose not to and instead lied declaring his way was the only way. What was so hard about saying that 'the way things are there is little to no chance of finishing the current season and that next season we may have to start behind closed doors. Here are a few proposals.'
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  13. I’ve got some non-Rangers running about to do today. I’ll try and pop back on later but if a genuine question that I can help with you are probably best to direct message my Twitter account as I try and get through all of them.
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  14. From todays Sunday Times ......... Scottish football’s capacity for self-harm remains remarkable, even during a global pandemic. The decision to declare the season over, crown celtic champions and move swiftly onto to the new TV deal with Sky was always going to cause collateral damage, riling Rangers and relegating Hearts for starters, but a small dose of common sense could have stopped it escalating into a full-scale civil war with potential sequels in the courts still to come. That is Hearts’ nuclear option if their latest stab at finding a consensus on reconstruction among Scotland’s 42 clubs fails to gather the required support this week, and all the indications are that it won’t come close to doing so. Too many turkeys would need to vote for Christmas for a proposed temporary move of three leagues of 14 for two seasons to be approved. Yet all of this could have been avoided if a principle, widely agreed as sensible by all in Scotland, had been adopted from the outset — that no club should be worse off as a result of what the insurance industry would consider an Act of God. Leadership was lacking. The proposal to sign off on the season should have been a simple one, that nobody would be relegated without completing their matches and nobody who merited promotion would be denied it. This could have been achieved with minimum fuss by promoting two clubs to the Premiership and relegating none, Sky have no problem with a 14-team top flight provided it still features four Old Firm games and retaining the Edinburgh derby would have been a welcome bonus. Dundee United clearly deserved to come up as runaway champions of the Championship and also promoting Inverness, four points clear in second place when the music stopped in March, would have added their Highland derby with Ross County to the viewing schedule. United and Inverness would have been replaced in the Championship by Falkirk and Raith Rovers, the top two in League One separated by a single point but four clear of the pack. Cove Rangers and Edinburgh City, the leaders in League Two and both ambitious, well-run outfits, would have been promoted into their places and replaced in the bottom tier by Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts, winners of the Highland and Lowland Leagues respectively. Everybody rewarded, nobody punished. Job done. Instead, in their rush, the SPFL have harshly relegated Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer and created a mess that is now heading towards the courts, potentially creating another dimension of chaos as they strive to start next season on time. Ann Budge, after so much hard graft to bring Hearts back from the brink six years ago, repairing the ravages of the Vladimir Romanov era, now risks her legacy before handing the club over to the supporters, something she is set on despite a bid from Foster Gillett, the son of the former Liverpool owner George Gillett, last week. They have been sleepwalking towards the trap door all season and did little to suggest in a 1-0 defeat away to St Mirren in the final Premiership fixture before the lockdown that they would have avoided it. Money has been squandered and Budge had too much faith in Craig Levein to take care of the football side of things. Appointing Daniel Stendel was a strange choice, too, as Motherwell’s Stephen Robinson was clearly the manager required to avert relegation, given his knowledge of the Scottish scene and ability to work on a restricted budget. Stendel and Hearts have a bilateral break clause in their union, which would mean further tumult in personnel and strategy this summer. Hearts may have ultimately deserved to go down, but we will never know that for sure and to expel them — the word they insist upon using, with some justification — from the top flight during this crisis is not only unfair but also unwise. Their average attendance of 16,751 this season, a miserable one for their fans, is bettered only by celtic and Rangers and is higher than Hibs’ or Aberdeen’s. They also carry a large travelling support, which benefits other clubs financially. There are parallels with Rangers’ demotion to the bottom tier in 2012, after the SPFL rejected readmitting them following their administration and liquidation by a 10-1 vote. It took Rangers four years to reclaim their top flight status and it seemed to be on pause in this period, with standards slipping and budgets shrinking across the board before their return. Steven Pressley, who previously played for Rangers, Dundee United and celtic, as well as captaining Hearts and then managing Falkirk, says that Scotland’s clubs must see “the big picture” rather than focusing on narrow self-interest in the present crisis. “It’s beyond me the way the SPFL have acted during this period,” he said. “Their first port of call should have been to ensure the stability of all member clubs, especially those we consider to be major clubs. “Nobody should really lose in these circumstances. Yes, you can have the winners, celtic declared champions, that’s not a problem, but there can be no losers. “It has left them in a really difficult predicament because of the Hearts situation — a club that they had to protect. We’re all in agreement they have had a really poor season, nobody is arguing that point. Under normal circumstances, if they had gone down, nobody at Hearts would be complaining, I’m pretty sure about that, because there would be no grounds for it. “There hasn’t been any leadership about this, none whatsoever. It’s almost an administrative role at times, but when you get a crisis like this you find out about true leaders and wow, we have lacked that in that organisation. “Whether you agreed or disagreed with the decision, when Rangers were demoted the effect it had on our game was incredible. “The standard in the Premiership during the four years Rangers were out of it, and we also lost Hearts and Hibs from it, was the lowest ebb in the history of Scottish football, the lowest standard in the top flight. “We have to be careful. We haven’t got that many clubs that get in excess of 15,000 fans every week and we have to protect that. “It would be so irresponsible for our clubs to allow this to happen, so irresponsible.” He also acknowledges that Hearts have to accept responsibility for their predicament and learn lessons. “This will be a big summer, with Craig moving on,” Pressley, who spent eight years at Hearts from 1998 to 2006, said. “They have invested heavily and a big part is the recruitment of players and how they go about it. Once Ann knows the future, in terms of which division, because that will have a big effect on the direction of the club. As I experienced at Falkirk, when they were down there with no money, the real saviour of the club was the academy. “It might be similar for Hearts, especially now when finance in football is in quite a precarious position. “They have a really good academy there and they should be leaning on that more than they are at the moment.”
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  15. If they set the calendar then match round 1 will start early August. The 1st OF game should be away, probably a month or so into the campaign but likely bcd, so a disadvantage to them. A cynic 😎 might think that Liwell wants to know the date of that fixture round, as they'd prefer the league not to resume til after that date. This would then give them a rescheduled fixture later, when it's more likely to have fans present. So possible disadvantage and cost of having no fans avoided. Cynic, moi? 😂
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  16. Obviously don't know how true this would be, but Tierney shows you how ill-run Arsenal have been. A fully fit Tierney wasn't worth that much, and anyone who'd paid the slightest attention to Scottish football would have told them he was chronically injured and his body already at risk of breaking down. But he's well good on Football Manager innit.
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  17. That boy is the best product of a Scottish academy in 30 years. He's the finest homegrown talent I have ever that time and as a footballer is absolutely fantastic. Bossed juve, psv etc. I he was immense. I to deny that's fucking ridiculous the boy was fucking amazing
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  18. Could be the start of the fire sale, 2 unstable strikers with mental health issues so we are told by the tacit media, 1 firing air gun in a drive by shooting, the other a ned , a racist , addicted to the marching powder and everyone has to accept the hollicom propaganda. They must believe everyone in this country is buttoned up the back like their gullible support. No separate entity. No Support of Terrorism. No paedophile ring at the chamber of horrors. They really are the most despicable club ever to play the game of football. Never defeated always cheated is their claim when the exact opposite is the case. They have done nothing and brought nothing to the game , shat on the shores of Scotland, given succour and protection which they accepted but as is their want no matter where they went they have used these charitable offerings to bite the hand that fed them in their time of need. Corruption is and always has been their game , led by their political and religious masters in Rome they have achieved more than even they Machiavellian bastards thought possible in this shithole of a country. Fight back, by whatever means. We Fired = You Re-Hired. Kick them Out.
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  19. I’m sure there’s plenty of other ways our commercial department/club could have raised money without taking an extra £50 off supporters for things that were free before
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  20. £50 into mygers to go on the waiting list and telling people who have forked out literally thousands year in year out that they’re an embarrassment for wanting a refund Shameless 🤣 Club should have gave the option and I’m confident that the majority would refuse a refund for the reasons you mention. Those that took the option up would be well within their rights ffs Me personally I’m skint but I’ll get by without a refund. Bit in bold is simply not true, this season thousands are struggling on lower wages or in some cases no wage at all. Wind yer neck in pal.
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  21. You don’t know what individual bears circumstances are. There’s guys I know that double up on shifts and stay in just to afford to get to games. You are being disingenuous to folks that also may welcome any kind of windfall. You kinda embarrassed yourself there pal.
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  23. And all but ignored by the vast majority of the press...all pushing for "the only option on the table".
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  24. Budge wrote this in a statement days after the vote: The Legal briefing notes which accompanied the Written Resolution makes it very clear that given these unique circumstances, it falls to the SPFL members to decide the fairest basis on which to determine final league standings along with the associated implications, for Season 2019/20. These briefing notes outline 6 (of various) options, the advantages and disadvantages of which the Board has apparently considered. The brief summary of the first 5 of these options focus on why the Board considers these options to be unsuitable. While I have no issue with their views being expressed, I do not consider the arguments for or against these options to have been objectively expressed. In the 6th option, the single one that members are being asked to vote on, the reasons for (not against) this being the best solution are more fully stated. The very language used is different. Instead of talking in terms of something being arbitrary or unfair or damaging, as is done when discussing other options, the language changes to talk of how this is the fairest method of determining the final League positions. Clearly, this is a subjective judgement. It suggests that the Board has made a decision and simply wish now to convince the members to accept that decision. This is not, in my view, how you honour the principle that it is up to the members to decide how to ensure the fairest approach is taken. The Board has clearly discussed and considered various options. This is exactly what we would expect of the Board. However, to then dismiss all but one option and present only this option for a members vote, within a very limited timescale, must surely raise the question of whether the Board is attempting to unduly influence the members decision making process.
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  25. All together now! Bonjour, bonjour, nous somme les garcon de Guillaume
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  26. Just to get this back on topic: One thing that's quite interesting if you can stick with the whole you tube video, is the recurring theme. Both talk about how they have made great effort to listen to fans, they have listened to their concerns and they have responded to those with new initiatives. But when you actually look (or more accurately, listen) at that closely the following has happened: Fans wanted to see loyalty rewarded and were concerned about not getting access to away tickets = response: we introduced a fee for that Fans wanted to see loyalty rewarded and were concerned they wouldn't get tickets for cup finals = response: we introduced a fee for that RSC's felt that despite their loyalty they were concerned that they were being taken out of consideration = response: we introduced a fee for that So fan engagement was simply to find out where the weak spots were that could be exploited for additional revenue - the whole exercise in consultation wasn't about providing anything to help fans, the feedback was for the club to identify where revenue could be gained. It's worth noting that those of us on the CCCS for years have fronted up money for no actual gain - everyone appreciates you miss one match and you are probably already paying more than face value for tickets - it's simply a commitment to the club to provide that cash up front to allow the team to have the revenue in the bank. So when they say they listened to the fans I fully believe they did - it's what they did with that information that really troubles me!!
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  27. That’s a good one and very very true ,I reminded one once that Protestantism is a purer version of Christianity,was a few years back and I don’t think the cunt has calmed down yet 😂
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  28. And we are unfortunate enough to have the most fucked up variety of them all ,not one shred of actual religion comes into their thinking ,Until of course something goes against them and the anti catholic card is played
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  29. It's been brought up numerous times when the reasoning against nul and void is discussed. It's like the paedo ring elephant in the scottish football room, where it's right there but no one talks about it, certainly not in detail. Shhhhhhh, move along....
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  30. I know from my own work mate setting people up to answer calls at home isn't difficult at all
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  31. You would be wrong, golf clubs make very little money and many are in danger of closing. They rarely have minted benefactors. I paid with no expectation of a refund. There is no refund. In fact my club had to beg to get people to pay their fees. We managed it but it will be tough with no visitor, bar or restaurant income to supplement fees.
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  32. 10k plus in 3 weeks isn’t struggling. I came on when I seen some fans struggling with their ST. we had many arguments in the past but needless personal abuse isn’t worth my time.
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  33. I think that you will find that in France Lyon were directed to another court which had the power to hear their arguements and make a decision. Case has yet to be heard. In Holland null and void was the route taken and that decision was upheld by the courts.
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  34. Fuck all cynical about that ,
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  35. Katic is the best defender we have. Rough around the edges,aye,but still the best we have. Yet to see anything to convince me otherwise.
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  36. So the SPFL cannot get a sponsor but Hearts can get a 7-figure sum with no strings attached. There must be at least one serious journalist left in this shithole who will question this. Is this Philanthropist Dermot Desmond or a friendly Latvian bank by any chance? FFS we are not even a banana republic we are a potato republic.
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  37. Simunovic released too. Sure he was being touted for £8million+ moves every other week to Italy and the like as well! Okay...
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  38. And he isn’t letting us anywhere near the table ,Even when we have our guy he’s just there as a token gesture Also seen as awkward as he’s the only one to ever vote against any board proposals a solitary voice against a rabble of corrupt filth
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  39. We've a new Board and new approach. Jim White is a knob but Talksport could be a good outlet for us to speak freely. Not really got much to lose, they act the cunt and we at least tried.
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  40. Bloody predictive text and sun Stella combo , 😂😂😀😀
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  41. You don’t put enough in to back up any of your what’s what rants regarding MYGers and accusing people of being embarrassing, not a dig just fact, everybody’s finances are different but you’ve no scope to comment like I’ve no right to tell a hospitality season ticket holders that aren’t pleased with their new set up what’s what as they put £££ more in than me
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  42. A very good point that folk seem to be forgetting when they are in such a hurry to chase him out the door.
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  43. Think it's a necessity to resolve one way or another, it's not really reasonable to expect more than one account per house. I'd imagine there's a fair amount of multi ST holders in households. 👍
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  44. First thing on Budge's proposal is Flat top speccy bastard - fuck off you overpaid, under-achieving wanker
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  45. Your criticism of Jack is spot on btw, an ok battler but at the end of the day where he is as a player it's still not good enough.
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  46. Daily rabid running with two stories. One that many Premiership clubs cannot afford the test kits and the other that both us and the scum are first and second respectively on a list of European clubs that could go bust because of the impact of the virus, due to a shit Sky deal and us being dependent on two thirds of our income from matchday and the scum 45%. Compared to Bournmouth who only rely on 4% on match day income. I'm sure Pete and the SPFL will get it sorted when they meet with government. 10 mil grant to the scum and a tenner for us. Seems fair, right?!
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  47. If the team is going to be around Hagi playing as a number ten and basically being allowed to do what he wants then we need two solid players behind him in the same way that having Ferguson and McCall gave us the solid base to allow Laudrup and Gazza the freedom to go and influence the game.
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  48. Absolute nonsense. He dragged us through games we should never have won with what he did for the team. He's justifiably a legend on the pitch IMO. Unfortunately he's more than sullied his reputation as a Rangers great with his outpouring of his 'thoughts' as a pundit for the Rhebel and Sunday Liam.
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