The following are John McCrae's words - not those of Vanguardbears Admin: Regarding Lincoln, anyone going from VB with only a few posts, or who was not known to have attended any previous VB "do" or who had not met any Admin or senior members will know that I wrote asking for info on who you were, who you knew on here and asking for your name, address and phone number. I asked politely and explained why we were asking. That stance was taken because we were paranoid about taig getting wind of where and when because we had seen their threats to sabotage it. Even then, all details were sent by PM. Nothing was put on open forum. Not one VB member hesitated and all supplied details. All Rangers fans were and are welcome. They just need to prove they are Rangers fans. With respect to the ones on RM bitching, all they needed to do was ask. And, please note, we are not a clique. However much they deny it, RM and especially ££ are infested with taigs. The latter site deleted all references to Lincoln because Jaffa Man was sick that VB did the deed while he talked the talk. Under no circumstances would we prevent anyone going, it is simply that all references to Vanguardbears were deleted. If you don't believe that, log on to Follow Follow and start a thread referring to VanguardBears. See how long it lasts. John McCrae