PaulRFC1

Fuck sake

Just played the demo and im in shock because this Pes is actually very good, the animations are much better and much more fluid compared to the last couple of years and you can actually defend! the way they have the manual passing/shooting is quality too and something fifa need to implement. Massive step in the right direction.

Never happy with ex taigs signing for us. Just right now we have more things to worry about, we have been put in the third division and we don't even have a license. We badly need players and at this moment in time I could take a an ex taig fringe player playing for us in the third division.

Tragic. RIP Jack.

If they were going to fake a rivalry then surely they would do it an easier way, a way which didnt involve a brawl, someone getting glassed and a trainer getting busted open. And on the fight, I thought Chisora was looking good and it was actually turning in his favour. He was upping the pace and Haye seemed to be slowing. Haye looked good tho and that combo was absolutely brutal and its a credit to Chisoras heart and chin that he managed to get up twice.

Aye a can imagine SKY setting up there cameras at places like annan.

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Fuck off then.

They aren't a NewCo. Their original company has never been liquidated, im not sure what the Pacific Shelf companys purpose was tho.

TUPE is just a transfer over on existing terms. They would have kept the cut-price transfer fee's they agreed too. Its not hard to grasp, transfer over and leave for a cut price fee and get us some cash or challenge the transfer and leave for nothing and get themself some cash. It was done for personal greed. It doesn't help when you have Naismith and Whittaker coming out with them owing no loyalty because its a new club or whatever the pishy statement was.

The Football Club and the Company are not the same thing. Its that simple, SPL/SFA rules see the distinction between them. Not only that but they are still trying to punish us for the EBT's and Dual Contract stuff. Why if we were a different Club would we be getting punished? Its an open and shut case, the only people who try and argue this are taigs and bitter diddy club fans. You can also look at Leeds, Boro and Charlton as examples of a NewCo and Airdrie, Clydebank and Gretna are examples of a new Club.

No you're saying its a "fact" we are a new club yet you have shown NO facts. The whole point of that post was showing the distinction between a Club and Company because you are trying to say that there is no distinction. And you answered none of the points I posted. You look desperate tho. "Paul Clark is a liar, it was a BDO pr lady putting a positive spin on things and the Leeds United, Boro and Charlton situations are different". Why would a Rangers fan say such things to try and say we are a new club? The youtube video was a video made by a taig and he doesn't even say that we lose our history. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/18417314 - 8:25, Green interview. And in what way is the Leeds, Boro and Charlton situations different? Face it, the SPL and SFA see the distinction between Club and Company as do HMRC and BDO.

Link to the youtube video? You seem quite forceful in saying this is a new Football Club so im assuming you are a taig. So a NewCo breaks the timeline of the club? we were formed in 1872 and were registered as a company in 1899 so the years between 1872 and 1899 don't actually exist? And you are also saying that there is no distinction between Club and Company? "This is a petition for judicial review by the Rangers Football Club plc, a company presently in administration. That company presently operates Rangers Football Club (to whom I shall refer as "Rangers"). Rangers are members of the Scottish Football Association ("the SFA")." Lord Glennie quite clearly finds the distinction between Club and Company. What about the EBT and Dual contracts investigation? surely if our timeline had been broken and we have no history this would be dropped? No?! so you're saying the SPL and SFA finds the distinction between Club and Company too? "The Club will continue to operate as it has always done but within a new company structure." - Paul Clark "However, we should make it clear that Rangers Football Club will continue within a new company structure and the Club survives and will continue playing football at Ibrox." - Paul Clark "Liquidation will enable a sale of the football assets to be made to a new company, thereby ensuring that football will continue at Ibrox." - HMRC "will not mean the end of football at Ibrox – only the end of the company that ran the club". - BDO You see how HMRC and BDO also believe that a Club and a Company are different? Leeds, Charlton and Middlesborough have all had their companies Liquidated and all have their history intact. Move along now. (http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=243:the-case-for-rangers-history - all info in here)

This should be no surprise. Im fucking raging still tho, wonder if Jig will be the only one to show some loyalty. We gave Aluko a chance and he walks out first chance? same with McCabe. Both young players who were given a chance to showcase there talent at a big club in front of thousands and the first chance they get they have walked out. Ok at least if they were going to the Premiership or we offered them awful deals I would understand but it was just a transfer to the NewCo on the same deal(i think?) and they objected to it walking away for nothing not even getting us any sort of fee. Fuck them, we will be back bigger than ever.

No we are a NewCo now. Doing this is going down the Airdrieonians route. Being honest I would always support the club, I just wouldnt be happy with us effectively killing another team for no reason.

Kill a club and lose our history in the process? no thank you.

Fantastic player and a hero among men.

3 years is a bit much. We dont know what they will do, we might get into the SPL without any sanctions even tho its doubtful. Its up too Green now to negotiate a deal.

Fair enough mate. I would take a points deduction but all this pish about 50/50 gate revunue etc is ridiculous. The bitter fans of this corrupt League will never draw a line under it and get back to normal, they want us thrown to division 3 without thinking reasonably about how that will effect this League financially and completely fuck our co-efficient. When it comes to the Leeds situation there only sanction was a deduction of points and hopefully its the same for us but I think they will try and throw the book at us.

Ok so we were fucked over big time, something everyone already knows and nobody is disputing. Do you think we should just get back into the SPL without a points deduction? being realistic and all that. And a Rangers hater? get a grip mate.

Oh FFS shut up and get your head out the gutter. For saying we deserve a punishment but within reason? stop being a fucking idiot. "Fans like that" I pump plenty of money into Rangers every season and turn up every week and will continue to do so regardless of division so dont start that pish.

True. But a lot of our fans are saying stuff like SPL without penalties/sanctions or third division. By going down a NewCo route we are getting away with a ton of debt and are not paying the money we owe to a lot of companys and clubs. We have got the 3 year ban from Europe which is standard but if we are to get in the SPL we will be looking at starting on -10 points and maybe a fine. Its got to be in reason tho, making up punishments like the transfer embargo etc is a lot of shite. I don't buy rags Ricky.

This. Fuck going to division 3. We deserve to be punished but within reason, I have no idea why most of our fans think we should get off scot-free.