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The financial liability is only part of it Steven, don't be surprised if its clerical/administrative or 'technical' (if you will) errors which will be their undoing. Light years out of their depth.

Treat Traynor as anything other than Murrays No.1 Puppet and best of luck to you, embarrassing this cunt should even be referenced on here after the spin he produced over the years, what happened to 'never forget what Murray has done to our club'? If we are praising his Media (and I intend that word to be construed in its truest Latin form, whether any cunt likes it or not) sidekick without knowing the full reason for his (paraphrasing Non Succumbi post above) 'epiphany' then God save us, 'cause no other cunt will have any pity, wake up.

We should be bullet-proof to this stuff by now, this and moaning about the Zombie chat in particular will haunt us, we should rise above it all and disregard these muppets. there are some idiotic people about and once again the club pays the price, bravo. When you are a Bear you are always representing the club, and particularly when online where every cunt can see it, give our club a break for fuck sake...Men bitching is fucking abhorrent but hopefully mine will serve some purpose. This club is greater than the fans, Vallance, Struth, Walter, Green, Religion, anyone and anything. Try to remember who we are and what we represent and do not take it for granted nor shame it.

If we are refusing to acknowledge the validity of the witch-hunt its only right we keep our powder dry publicly. Until we know the full extent of the accusations AND those truly responsible I will do the same.

Again, this would make sense, probably the most interesting thread I've read on here in a while to be fair. Cheers for the info, though I see the reality of his job as damage limitation rather than uncovering anything untoward, that's geared toward motivating ticket sales, and has worked well to give credit where its due. These details would tie in with Green's comments about warming to the task from some time ago, I doubt that was far from the truth!

Fumare!

True, Lippi was beyond cultured smoking both cigarettes and cigars, how Zdenek Zeman (below) copes these days is beyond me, he was never without a smoke back in the day. Goethals was similar, a lot of the great managers indulged.

That seems odd, he had a stroke when he was younger and disappeared from the Bayern Munich squad for around 6 months, couldn't believe when he made a comeback - Gotta love him being on the fegs after that! Slaven Bilic was another, 4-5 a day I read so probably 20+.

Aye.

We need a name for the banana!

That is some photograph taken by Vass, not easy viewing.

Option 3, and Ally will know better than anyone what the situation is, the minute he feels he has done all he can he will do what he believes is right for Rangers.

How about we sign THE Paulo Sergio, 43 now but what a player!

I agree, also think Harry may well be on to something with regards to potential financial issues elsewhere. Don't be surprised to see an exodus ...beginning in January. The game in general is absolutely in the shit and there will be no easy fix. Is what happens when the 'fans' get to decide online (more-or-less), its a farce though we would have done the same had the boot been on the other foot....that is reality. I think the "Us (being Rangers) & Them (being everyone else)" siege mentality and the constant, blinding desire to 'expose' sensationalist, powderkeg tales of mis-management and scandal elsewhere is very tiring and fucking embarrassing - those Harper MacLeod graphs a while back were laughable. The reason we have been 'exposed' is because of two crooks and their numerous henchmen who will most likely get off scot-free. Let's just worry about ourselves for a while and await the day when we will get our perfect 'revenge' - On The Park, where it matters most. We keep our heads high and try our best to ensure we don't allow a repeat of what transpired previously. The buck stops with us from here on in.

Rabid, travelled across for the games.

I'm still hopeful Sandaza will get it right and be a great signing for us, although progress is admittedly slow...

I fail to see what would be surprising at this being driven by them, even if it has been what difference will it make? We would surely put the foot on the throat of the scum if we had the opportunity? Very, very rarely do both clubs exist in a state of common cultivation - one prospers whilst the other suffers as was certainly the case in the 80/90's. Fact is Murray and Whyte left us open, both financially and in an administrative sense to all these attacks and remain the main culprits for what has transpired following their gross mis-management of Rangers. They bankrupted the club for fuck sake, what part of this do cunts not understand? Sooner we get our heads round this the better for our sanity, otherwise the real culprits will sail in to the sunset and we will be left looking high and low like dicks for these supposed 'enemies' (Celtic will always be just this), the fact we are still asking questions such as The OP does here says it all really, I truly despair at times. Is it not getting tiring blaming every other cunt? Let's get on with it, enjoy it and we will savour it all the more when we are back. We, the fans have nothing to be ashamed of but let's worry more about ourselves and less about these pricks with no vested interest in our club - they care for Rangers the same we care for them - get it now?

James Traynor is a puppet of Murray, defending Minty will be Jabba's last act in Scottish football. Don't be surprised to see him head in to the sunset a very rich man, I for one won't be buying in to anything he says...and surely now we all realise there is an agenda behind all of his ramblings or will we never learn?

Ally should just concentrate on football matters, he has more than done his bit over the past months for the club, and to be fair no one here has denied this - we are all grateful, we know how much the club means to him. He can't help out if he is not in the Manager's role, there is no way he will take a place on the board with any real power nor I'd imagine wish to. The responsibility of speaking out on political matters such as League reconstruction, witch-hunt investigations etc. must be delegated to others. Concentrate on the job at hand, its big enough.

I'll say this with my old FF hat (not barred like many on here but merely discarded through personal choice) on and leave it at that... If Murray has fucked us, and our players over - he should serve time. Why the club should be held responsible is beyond me, that is not justice, it is abhorrent.

Let's just test the water a wee bit more, and play the long game on this one, what do you guys reckon? Encouraging signs thus far though, definitely.

Of course you are right Devlin, but we are only wee remember! its massive for us Murray doing the biz. However, this should be a unifying thread for all of us, its what we need right now, no Timposters will come near it and pray no Follow Follow....er,'faces' who will 'grace us with their presence' (th-tha-ank you boss), a positive thread just will not suit their agenda. So to THE best Rangers Forum - to The Bears Den, and for Queen and Country, Good Times, let's revel lads

Most of us believe him, we have certainly backed him, let's just hope he can deliver...I personally don't doubt the intentions are good, just the ability to make it happen.

Aye, and they really ought not have have bothered.

Anybody else struggling with this conundrum? too early for me to think straight. I'll gather my thoughts and get back to you this evening, fucking savage luck the boy has, that is for sure.