Old bast**d haha conqueror, victorious etc!? Did you know an old chef called papa smurf lol? I originally joined as a slop jockey and served with him, dickie Davies, (now at sr mess as civvy) And various others including the legendary Ronnie Ross lol I am indeed a skimmer though it was a close thing, maybe I'll get te chance to spin the dit with you some time! I got accused of being a bheggar today lol out-fecking-rageoud LOL scrumpy jack fixed it though and respect WVB, takes a real man ;-)