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Would like to see him play in our new formation and with different players around him that we've got now. I said last season that I think he's talented but is on very thing ice - he needs to perform or there's no hiding place for him and his time will be up.

Can't do a week due to work etc but I'm glad that's more people saying it's relatively easy. Thanks. Also a general question, does anyone know how I can find my national insurance number? I used to have P60's etc in the drawer in the kitchen but no idea where they've went. I've checked my wageslips online and there's no mention of it on there even on my deductions page. I need it for a Visa but no idea how to get it.

15 seats now

Good hopefully he learns how to pass a ball ten yards

Thanks. A couple of folk have said that to me now. Just worried incase I attempt the dates, they don't match and they scan your VISA/Passport and it comes up the places you've been and the dates and it doesn't match any biometric data you've declared ... I really don't see how it would be a problem, the Visa doesn't appear to me to have any info on it about your trips or anything, but there might be a chip they scan that tells you or something.

It's probably a very wise stance for the club to take. I'm not saying for one minute it's true, but if it is, then clubs could be playing hardball with vaulations of players we want if they think we are getting bankrolled behind the scenes.

We've still got 16-seats on Vienna coach to fill if anyone knows anyone that's interested?

We were still the better side after the red too mate but the fact of the matter is that we still never created enough to put Aberdeen to the sword ... sure the red didn't help but we were still the better team and bossed them and should have won. We need to look at ourselves too along with the diabolical referring standards.

Out of curiosity, how many red's have we had rescinded the past couple of years?

Not overly fussed/impressed with either. Both show glimpses that are quite good but I don't think they are solid players you can depend on. Squad options they are ok. But we need a bit more quality and consistency than them IMO. Based on early glimpses, given. I also think that they are 2 players that if we play well and win, then they look shit-hot and people think more of them that what they possibly provide and in a losing team they are the types you instantly look at and curse. You get players like that. Rightly or wrongly.

If it's somewhere I've booked then yeah but i'll not be gambling on Russia

No-one's booking this as a gamble ... would be insane ... but it helps to know the Visa stuff and getting all your ducks in line because there won't be a lot of time to sort things between ties should be get there.

To follow the team mate. It's obvious. I enjoy it. Cost doesn't cross my mind when it comes to booking somewhere like Russia - you will always get a chance to make more money, but never get another chance to go to this game ... in fact we will probably never even play this UFA team ever again. I can always do over-time in work and reclaim the cost - I won't get a time machine as easily.

Ah so there's a Russian consulate and the VFS Service Centre? that makes sense and explains why there's 2 buildings listed and why the number listed for the consulate directs all enquiries to the other building. I hate pressing you on this but the countries past 10 years?

Do you take the passport photo with you to the consulate and they put it onto your Visa if they see fit? also what about the countries you've visited last ten years on the web application form to be sent to the consulate - what did you put?

Defo! but my head tells me it's gonna be UFA so trying to get as prepared as possible.

I noticed that it's done on the VFS Global website ... at the end of the online form, do they submit the info to the Edinburgh office who then get's in touch with you? do you then go and see them with your photo etc? also what did you do when filling out the countries you've visited last 10 years? I'd imagine it all flags on your passport when you arrive in Russia and they scan you at Passport Control, is there a note of the countries on your Visa for them to cross-reference and check?

Do you have a number for them? I couldn't find one. The only number I could find was for the other building and it said all enquiries must be directed to the other building (which I couldn't find a number for)

I totally agree. Can't stress that enough. If we don't win it won't be because of the ref - likewise against Aberdeen there shocking decision to send Morelos off and them keeping 11 men on the park in return but we didn't create much despite being in total control of a piss-poor Aberdeen side. However, the double standards needs mentioned. It's one rule for us.

Heard about this earlier and immediately thought about that Conservative MP that's a linesmen from somewhere like Dingwall or Moray and every single time his flag goes up in games the papers have 'Tory/unionist linesman this and that' ... all sorts of criticism and scrutiny for him but they can give us ex St Mirren players to ref against us in a game vs St Mirren - scotland is a fucking shit hole

Yeah you got a wee card type thing with your passport picture that doubled up as both your VISA and match ticket for any games purchased but it doesn't extend to these games, sadly. Apparently you can wander although you did need to give them a sort of itinarary of your plans. Didn't know it covered them until the end of the year - there was a couple guys I knew there so that's a wee bonus for them as they will be doing this trip also.

What did you take, what was the process and how long did it take to get your Visa?

Thought it might be useful to make a thread for anyone travelling to this game (should we both progress and make it through to play each other) I've been looking a lot today and trying to find out best way to do it. Does anyone have any solid advice and help doing it? I know the Visa costs are done in 3 segements (Visa processing cost, service charge and letter of invitation cost) ... the letter of invitation is something you need an affiliated organisation or the hotel to stamp for you which is part of the Visa process/application. Seems to come in at about £140 for normal service and £200 for 1-day fast track service. When we played CSKA Moscow in 2004 the Rangers/official trip sorted this side of things and when we played Dyanmo Moscow in 2002 my Dad was working out there at the time as a supervisor and sorted it out for me so I didn't have to do very much - plus a lot of the process changed in 2014 anyway so a lot of the process won't be applicable anymore anyway. Doing the form online most of it is pretty bog-standard stuff, but there's 2 questions a lot of us will have difficulty with - one of which is documenting the old passports you've had and their numbers and details ... this is especially difficult as you are encouraged by the UK Home Office/Passport Office to destory your old passport upon receipt of your new one and also it wants you to list the countries you've been to in the last 10 years along with the dates ... at a guess I've probably been to about 30 countries in the last 10 years maybe and a lot of them more than once, how are you meant to remember all that? anyone that's done this found a way around this? There's agencies that do it all for you for a fee that can cut through a lot of this red tape - but would need to find the best one - any suggestions? Also apparently once you have the form filled out and documentation in tact, you go upto the Russian office in Edinburgh and apply that day without an appointment? is this true?

Walker has always been a wee fenian runt always found Provan hard hitting and fair tbh

Sandcastles is up there tbh even tho true for it to be deemed news and investigation worthy basically sums this shit hole Scotland up to a tea in fact I think the word Scotland should be forum filtered to lower case like celtic is