William McBeath

Hard to stomach but true. I wouldn't be surprised if McInnes or others of that ilk knocked us back.

Him and Miller are the sort who should be easy to manage because they are both grounded lads and good professionals. As long as your instruction makes sense and you are straight with them I can't see them causing problems. This is worse than PLG because all this nonsense seems to be about Pedro rather than frustration boiling over from poor results. Terrible management from him is all I can see.

Me too because we already had him and the revolving door scenario scares the shit out of me. Look how many clubs end up fucked for years by constantly sacking guys. It was also because of the situation and knowing the ceiling of guys like McInnes is probably too low to win the league. With Pedro there was at least still a chance that he could be better than the others long term. He's turned out worse than I could have imagined and I was never happy about the football he served up or his appointment. Just hope to fuck they don't mess up the next appointment.

That's probably what a lot of this boils down too. A paranoid control freak who worries about things like that when it's just natural within human relationships for some people to bond. A good manager would find a way to use it to his advantage. I remember him talking about them not making the foreigners welcome enough. No doubt they were just closer because of time and language problems. Again a decent coach would get on with winning games and let that and time lead to unity among the squad. RFC52 hits the nail on the head above when he says Pedro's management style makes no sense. He's just fucking things up where no problem really existed because I can't see the likes of Miller and Wallace sitting like a wee faction of the BNP in the dressing room. They're all good decent lads. Pedro just wants a team of robots and nodding dogs who he can bark at. Fucking shambles.

The fact it Wallace, Miller, and Nico says it all. Three genuinely grounded lads. The board would be as well to end this now if true because Pedro has brought the circus back to Ibrox with this sort of nonsense.

What's this mate? I must have missed something. What did Lee say about Miller and Pedro?

Summed things up nicely mate. No doubt we'll hear again soon enough that we do not posses the culture to truly appreciate a Portuguese maestro. What with being backward Scots and football dinosaurs. Yet the guy has shown nothing since he got here.

I know they probably still got more TV income back then too and the loss of European money would have cost them a bit but was our merchandise, strip sales, and attendances not always in the top two or three back then? I'm sure I remember the Rangers News and papers showing we were top one year. I think that is our natural place in football without all the media income bullocks down there and the growth in all revenues it has brought English clubs.

Aye ok, hijacking threads with your boardroom shit is one thing but now for weeks you've been adding your ever increasing admiration for just about everything to do with that lot. You've lost the plot and your stinking the gaff up. Emotive and pandering to the gallery to prefer RM to be free of posts bigging up Ra Sellik. Aye ok, you got me Behave for ffs. You only get away with all this shite because you've been here for years and have lots of posts. To be fair to you, I think a real tramp would be more discrete but your doing a great impersonation.

I noticed you mentioning the Rodgers fetish earlier I mostly just read the forum but since I was already posting thought I might as well say something. It's a joke reading about Brown being the boss, his treble, champions league exploits, 60 game unbeaten run, and whatever else about Rodgers and them on a Rangers site. Needs to sort himself out. Seen it far too many times now. It public indecency.

Look at your posts. That one above about Brown is unbelievable for on here. That's not objectivity, it's rimming the tarriers ffs. We all know hard cold cash is needed but going on about them like that is anything but the way bears behave. It's more like them and the way they obsess about us. At the moment we all know a manager is likely to fail without huge funds but a decent manager will at least put us on the right road compared to going nowhere like we are just now under Pedro.

ScotlandSt is reeking in this thread with all his crap about corruption and linking us through Murray. Keep an eye on him Gogzy. Even seems to have vultures eating a carcass as his avatar. On my phone so can't see for sure. Blue Avenger why do you seem to always be wetting your self about the 'quality' of the tarriers and their messiah Rodgers? Can't you just rant about the board without rimming that lot, or better still, save it for the boardroom section? No offence but it's brutal seeing them being being put on a pedestal every day. We all know a big wad of cash would be nice. Don't know why you feel the need to say the obvious so much. If you were a new poster you'd get dogs abuse as people would assume you were only mentioning it so you could big-up the filth.

Yeah he's went wild with the deflection. Making such a huge deal about the refs now because of one game is laughable. Especially after all the talk about needing warriors with huge character and talking up his own tough guy image. The guy thought Scottish football would be simple because it's not as good as Portugal. His thoughts show what he already thought of the game here. He just added the referees to it to make it seem relevant to the situation after the Motherwell loss. I like a fighter but his instinct is to attack as the best defence even when he should have no choice but to accept the criticism. That's probably why he's also singled out Miller and now the whole team. He's obviously got a huge ego and can't take the pressure and criticism. So even if he pulls a rabbit out the hat over the next few months it will only be a matter of time before he cracks again. Imagine trying to talk your way out of a poor defeat by slagging of a country's ability in their national sport. Got to laugh at the guy's ability to stand up for himself at all costs. Strikes me as the sort of cunt who probably believes he's right because what he said is mostly true even though it has fuck all to do with why his side is not good enough. I like the fact that he doesn't care what the media or Scottish football think but the crux is that we play route one football and so are likely to drop points everytime we don't manage to run over our oppenents. There's little point in being patient with him and letting him build because the tactics and style are too simple to get the better of good sides and win the league and that won't change regardless of how many windows he gets to spend money. Even with cash and some success he would no doubt lose the plot at some stage when the inevitable bad results and criticism came. This will be why he's constantly moving from club to club. The board have made a mess of this managerial appointment. He doesn't have the talent to produce a good enough team for our needs or the mentality to deal with being the manager of Rangers. He won't learn or change either as he thinks he already knows everything he needs to or knows better than everyone else in Scottish football. Just speculating but that's the impression I get from him and why I think he smirks like a self indulgent child when he imagines he's said something really profound at press conferences. No harm to the guy he's not the one who's to blame for this. Whoever hired him needs shown the door. Just fucked us big time as it's cost us a season and a right few quid.

Is a joke the difference in the treatment of our clubs especially when you consider our lot don't use banners or other shite to constantly glorify individuals or organisations involved in killings. These cunts are still making up new songs about their heroes. Their hatred of the OBAF exposed them but again not one writer with the desire or balls to call them out. Imagine the likes of Speirs if we added weekly banners and new songs in support of Loyalist paramilitaries? Yet that's what these cunts do with impunity. It's like they are untouchable. It sickening because instead we get propaganda about the 'celtic Story' of how they fed the children, cured cancer, and saved the planet. It's actually disturbing that nothing is ever done about them.

People wetting their knickers at the thought of that fat wanker owning us when he's only showed a desire to exploit us. Gold digging whores :(

That's a good point mate. Whatever the truth about the leak it's an OTT way for a manager to act by talking to the press about it. That would go for any player let alone one with Kenny's standing with the club. He probably couldn't even know for sure. With these I just give the manager his due as he's the most important guy. A bit like Warburton with Barton. But Pedro has made this into the fuss it's become. Millers now also playing the cunt though through his agent so best he goes soon.

Always liked McLeish's "In a hundred years of unsurpassed dignity" about us accepting results and not resorting to bullying referees. Had the victims sussed and was basically calling them a bunch of pathetic wankers

Maybe in terms of final result but surely that Red Imps mob are a lot smaller than Progres? We lost a game to a shit team but its more that we went out that made it worse. The fact the vermin are supposed to be world beaters and lost to a team from a rock with a few pubs on it is far worse in terms of a loss. Red Imps don't even represent a country. The press glossed over that result. Given the circumstances it's a worse result and that's just from recent ones. No doubt lots of our teams have had similar ones. I remember many teams I've never heard of putting out the sheep, Hibs, and the rest. It was terrible but Scottish football is having a laugh making out it's the worst thing ever giving the circumstances.

Think last season it was against Killie when he announced the line up. I suppose you can't win with the press up here but I like the way he's his own man and doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. That's partly what we will need in a manager as everyone up here is out to make a whipping boy out of whoever tries to step up to the plate and get us going again. His calling out of the tramps over how much Brown and the rest get away with shit is the type of thing that would be considered smart if Jose did it because you do get the benefit of the doubt too often when your on top. We are facing a fight on all fronts and I don't think Pedro will let us down when it comes to saying what needs said. The man has character in abundance. Coming out to face the fans after the disaster in Europe was probably the most honest and ballsy thing I've seen a football manager do. I never wanted him and was dismayed by the way we played under him last season. It's partly why I've not been posting much as I didn't want to constantly moan on here and depress every cunt. It is what it is though and now I'm not so sure if the guys we could have got would do any better in the long run. The likes of McInnes would no doubt get us doing better more quickly but we know their ceiling is probably below Rodgers even without the gap in finances. From what I've seen we are improving but still have huge short comings in terms of the quality of the first 11 but even more so in terms of depth to the squad. I'm now thinking we might as well give this guy the season and another window before judging him because it's a huge and unlikely task for any one to achieve 55 at the moment. We will likely end up just rotating managers and going no where if we don't give any of them time to build properly. If we get second and are a good bit ahead of the rest then it's probably as good as it was going to get this year. I don't think anyone else outwith big names who won't come would manage to win the title soon anyway. It's just the reality of what's been done to us. The more I listen to Pedro on football though and watch the team play the more I think he does know what he's doing and what he wants from the team. We're a lot more direct and solid as a unit and do not waste time making pointless passes which is important when you need to maximise outcomes from a squad that is weaker than we are used to. It's not pretty at times but it's the way we need to go because we will not be able to match the filth for quality for some time. Time will tell and it's likely Pedro won't get any or will come up short anyway but here's hoping we keep improving and he does start to win stuff because the more we keep changing the more things will likely stay the same. We will eventually need to give someone time to fix the mess of the past five years. Might as well see were we're at come the end of the season before judging Pedro because the task is unenviable. He will have to produce a consistently winning team with relatively inexpensive players who are mostly not accustomed to needing to be constant winners. Its going to take time for any manager to develop and drill that into whatever players we can afford.

Yeah his physical attributes are more important than his boxing ability. It seems impossible to hurt the guy, he throws sledge hammers at you, and has the engine to go at you for the full 12 rounds. If he was just equal to the other top guys in these aspects Canelo would have beat him up and knocked him out last night. He's so tough, powerful, and relentless though that its near impossible to beat him. It would take a bigger Mayweather to outclass him clearly enough to win hands down. Without his physical gifts though most of the top p4p guys would beat him if they were the same size because he's not that quick, isn't great defensively, has little upper body or head movement, and cant fight on the back foot. To post on the thread in general though, I liked Canelo in the fight. He made GGG miss and look sloppy a lot, hit him with some good shots, missed a lot less, so more accurate, went toe-to-toe a lot before moving after landing, took some good shots himself, even let GGG throw his load at him on the ropes and then punched him back across the ring at times, and looked pretty comfortable to me. That's no easy task given he was up against a freak and is not used to fighting on the back foot so much. I thought he would be the better boxer on the night but doubted his ability to handle Golovkin's power which he managed to do so well he was happy to sit against the ropes and shake his head like Mayweather. I was impressed with Canelo but fighting GGG puts you on a hiding to nothing because you cant hurt him, he's powerful as fuck and can hurt you, and so you've little chance of making him go backwards whilst his great engine means he comes at you swinging for 12 rounds. So he presses most of the fight, throws a lot more, and wins even if he doesn't get the KO. His work rate is tremendous. As you say he's the real deal when it comes to being a beast as well. Canelo hit him with his big KO punches like his uppercut and a right hand similar to the one that nearly killed Khan and he hardly noticed. He walked through the right hand and when his head came back down from the upper-cut he just screwed up his face and threw a barrow load of vicious punches back at him Got to give respect to anyone who gets into a ring and has a go against him. Must be the hardest boxer of my lifetime. I thought Golovkin done enough to win because he's so relentless and always throwing. Canelo impressed me more but he didn't do enough. GGG pressed the fight and must have landed a fair bit more over the piece despite missing so much. I don't see anyone beating him now until he's completely past it because no one will be able to take the fight to him enough to outpunch him without getting put to sleep or to KO him. I liked Canelo so had it close but gave it to Golovkin by about two rounds. The judge who scored it 118-110 needs sacked. You couldn't have given that even if Canelo was your son ffs. Good fight though. You don't get many Golovkins and Canelo took some good punches from him and coped well overall. I wasn't sure if he was over-rated because of the hype but he looks the real deal to me after that and I cant see him losing to anyone else. I think Golovkin's just too much for anybody.

"I'm expecting an easy win for the PSG tonight unlike when they faced the Rangers and got their leetle French arses spanked. Even when I was with Marseille we had to put a lot of francs in envelopes just to get a draw against them. They are a real club, the real deal, but thankfully we only face Glasgow's bitch club tonight. We only worried about the smell as they is dirty fenians".

Yeah poor choice of words on my part. Was just surprised to wake up and find them among the first clubs to desert the circle of Rangers haters. Any decent fucker would have done it in 2012 right enough. It is a waste of time anyway as supposedly they can't punish us anymore. I think even the scum are just going through the motions with all this to appease their demented supporters. I think its about more than just the cash though. Most of them will know fine well what was done to us was unprecedented and way over the top. I reckon out with one or two clubs the fenians are the only ones with enough genuine hate to want another witch hunt. It's a level of sickness I'm glad I'll never understand. The 90s destroyed their lives (that generation are still completely owned by Rangers and always will be) and so they made a massive deal out of all this shite whilst we were down because it was the only way they were ever going to get one over on us. I think it's the underlying inferiority complex that made them so vulnerable. I'm glad though as it will stay with the stupid bastards for decades. But I think this is just a sign that the rest will no longer support the bitter cunts because anyone can see what's driving it after all we've been through already. Thank fuck we managed to come through this without losing any of our trophies though because as OTT as that would have been, that's what they tried to do with that 5 way agreement. Now the sickness will be at an all time high when we get back in among the trophies. Once we do we need to put some distance between us again and make sure we never take risks again no matter what sort of money is flying about elsewhere in Europe. But that's how pathetic they and their club are that they hijack us being bought by a fraudster and having financial problems to try and get closer to us in terms of trophies won. All I can say is thank fuck my dad wasn't one of them as I couldn't stand being that pathetic and bitter that I had to make up all these excuses and tales of oppression because another football club was better than my own. All that shite instead of just admitting to being second best, giving up the myths, and freeing themselves from illness. It's some state they be in. That's what this shite has always been about and why they don't care about the tax affairs of their owner, CEO, players, and all the rest of them who also use tax schemes. Ah but it wisnae run by the club they shout. Manky moralising hypocritical bastards

Good to see some common decency by some of these clubs. Stevie Wonder can see our club has been royally fucked over by Scottish football and the media. Anymore punishment would just have exposed the hatred that has driven all this even more. What was inflicted upon Rangers was so shameful that I'm not surprised many want to leave it behind and not be reminded by what they took part in. If anything it will anger me more in the years to come that we never got an inquiry into the attempted bullying and social witch hunt that was unleashed upon us for using common tax saving schemes and being bought by a fraudster. The interesting thing here is what GMCF referred to above. Neil Doncaster looks to have outed himself as a representative of celtic here by being dishonest when saying all clubs were behind his call for another inquiry. He's got to go for this if there is to be any chance of fairness in Scottish football.

Aye that's normally the way. Golovkin is smarter and more measured than most though and keeps his distance whilst waiting to hurt you rather than just flying in like a Tyson or Frazier. It also looks to me like Canelo tires more than him. I think it will just be that Canelo can beat that style because of his counter punching ability that makes the difference. That's if he can handle the pace and power right enough. For me Golovkin will need to knock him out as I don't see him landing better than Canelo. I hope the bookies are giving decent odds on Alverez because he's unproven at the weight and going up against the proven beast of the division. I can't really pick a winner out of them because Canelo might not be able to handle Gennady's power. I'm just going with the underdog for the sake of betting and because I think he's the better boxer. Take away Golovkin's mad power and I wouldn't give him much of a chance even though he'll throw more and work harder. Got to laugh at that because it must be so frustrating fighting guy's who do less work in terms of punching and easily win fights like Mayweather. Canelo will need to be able to go full rounds without taking breathers against the ropes in this one or Golovkin will likely drop him with one of those reverse uppercuts things he throws that go up and down onto the top of your head. Must be a weird punch for a boxer to defend and he manages to KO people with it. Guys a bit of a fucking freak. That's why I've no real confidence in picking a winner. It's all about whether Canelo is as tough as he's looked in his other fights because Golovkin will find him a lot too. Handle that and I don't see how Golovkin beats him. I prefer watching Canelo and will stick a wee bet on him but I think if it was my house or life I'd probably opt for Golovkin to be honest

I've flipped back and forward with the Canelo v Golovkin fight but now its betting time I'm going for Canelo. Golovkin is only better at the jab and moving around the ring. It's his power that makes him the favourite. If Canelo can avoid getting hit clean by his biggest punches he should outbox him over the piece. Easier said than done right enough. I'm not underestimating GGG's boxing ability but he doesn't fight so well if he's backed up. I think Canelo is good and tough enough to keep him off of him enough to win if he can manage to take a few like Jacobs. I expect him to make Golovkin look bad at times when he comes at him. He's an aggressive counter puncher so it will suit him if he can handle the pace. Problem for him is GGG could easily put him to sleep with a single punch and never lets up If I don't bet I'll be rooting for Golovkin as the Yanks and Mexicans always do well and have champions. Our fighters and the rest of Europe never seem to get as much recognition either. That won't be possible this time if Golovkin wrecks the new golden boy.