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    LookingForEric reacted to DiamondDan in So What is the Difference?   
    I think you can appreciate and recognise the difference In the team without slaughtering the last set up.
    Gerrard and his team transformed a shambles into an invincible side. He imposed his own style on the team and for the most part it worked.
    Performances and standards improved, we were immense in Europe and for the first time that I can remember a Rangers side continually went to the continent and let teams worry about dealing with us, rather than us adapting our system to neutralise them.
    The improvement in performances and standards was immeasurable culminating In 55.
    However, all good things come to an end. Familiarity breads contempt.  The place got stale, that's a natural byproduct in any workplace. After 3 years you've learned a job inside out and you start cutting corners and regressing. It will no doubt also happen with Gio in time.
    It amazes me how so many fans slaughter Gerrard for losing his enthusiasm and drive, when we, the fans, also took succes for granted. We came to just expect European success. Ibrox has been like a library this season on European nights, whereas when we played Legia and Rapid Vienna a few years back the place was bouncing. We are slagging a scouser for losing his mojo when we all did exactly the same.
    Gio is in, freshened things up. Tweaked the team to play wider and the full backs to play more defensively. It is working just now and hopefully delivers the title. But just as teams eventually worked out how to play against Gerrard'a side, they'll eventually work out how to play against Gio's side, I'd guess that they'll work that out even quicker as there is not as much interchanging of positions. 
    Gio's start has been amazing, but he needs to keep it going.
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Rum Ham in Itten   
    Or was it because he didn't fit into Gerrard's system. Seems an out and out striker but often played wide or dropped deep for us. Banged the goals in before and made the Swiss team. Possibly better under the GvB style of having his strikers in and around the box. Tough though with Morelos, Roofe and Sakala in the mix
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from GA1972 in Itten   
    Or was it because he didn't fit into Gerrard's system. Seems an out and out striker but often played wide or dropped deep for us. Banged the goals in before and made the Swiss team. Possibly better under the GvB style of having his strikers in and around the box. Tough though with Morelos, Roofe and Sakala in the mix
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from falkirkNS in Itten   
    Or was it because he didn't fit into Gerrard's system. Seems an out and out striker but often played wide or dropped deep for us. Banged the goals in before and made the Swiss team. Possibly better under the GvB style of having his strikers in and around the box. Tough though with Morelos, Roofe and Sakala in the mix
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    LookingForEric reacted to LJ50 in Club 1872 - Summary of our roadmap for change   
    I respectfully disagree. As a non-member of Club 1872, you have no right to expect a vote. That doesn't mean you shoudn't have an input and you aren't entitled to an opinion on any output.
    As a member of the Rangers support and as a potential member of Club 1872, it should be engaging with you, we want to engage you. And the tens of thousands like you.
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Bad Robot in Club 1872 - Summary of our roadmap for change   
    The key point here in what is being proposed is the need for transparency. I was sure that this was fundamental in the operation of any Supporters Direct (or what they are called now) association.
    I am not a member of Club 1872 but totally support the approach now being taken by the requisitioners. You only have to read some of the recent posts on this forum to know of the disregard in which the current Directors are held and further the distrust insofar as the lack of cash flowing in in support of the Dave King legacy investment arrangement. All of this is detailed in the plan above.
    Words are easy said, actions are harder to achieve.
    Therein lies the problem with Club 1872 as currently operated. Do they have the knowledge, experience and staffing/support to achieve their aims. The same will surely apply to anyone taking over. The requisitioners sound enthusiastic and hopefully they will succeed. Not to stand for election after six months might be a risk, unless there is a guarantee of finding suitable and sufficient bodies to take things forward.
    I genuinely wish them well in their endeavours.
    As a non member I have no rights to expect any input or indeed to any output but, in the vein of transparency there can be no harm in engaging with a wider audience via a source like RM and others, after all openness and honesty can demonstrate trust and professionalism and potentially lead to increased membership or investors committed to donating proxy votes.
     
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    LookingForEric reacted to bluenose48 in Michael Beale subjected to anti-protestant racism tonight   
    Sectarianism will never die as long as we are shitting in their shoes and they are pissing in our Bovril.
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    LookingForEric reacted to AGM_72 in Scotty Arfield   
    Worked his arse off. His industry was important in there without question, despite not being at his absolute best. 
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    LookingForEric reacted to Sweetheart in Gareth’s with Glen   
    Ouch! that must have hurt Bale it was right on the funny bone.
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Bears r us in Club 1872 Statement   
    I think any money put into C1872 is pretty safe, think there are rules etc governing their activity. Only thing is, you are putting your trust in a Board to represent you, you give up your individual right but that is where C1872 will get their strength.
    The reason I asked my earlier questions was to ascertain if they are professional and pro active. This is a massive step and opportunity. If they have been working on it behind the scenes for a while, I would expect existing members to be fully engaged and up to speed and equally for their organisation to have plans in place to promote this widely and generate some form of uptake.
    All seems a bit hit and miss at the moment as if they expect folk to walk through the door and fall at their feet.
     
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from foghorn leghorn in Club 1872 Statement   
    Thanks and yes I do realise what buying into C1872 means. Please note though that I am not advocating any particular route here. What I do believe is that more explicit information is required from both C1872 and the football club itself. This thread has already highlighted lots of mixed messages and misunderstandings.
    Joining C1872 and making a Legacy Donation puts funds in their coffers allowing them we believe to purchase cheap shares ( in 2021) from Dave King. If they secure all shares as touted C1872 would as of today be the major shareholder. Currently they have no place on the Board and no power, but their position will be strengthened. Any individual making a donation would only have a say in how C1872 business is conducted, not the football club.
    Whilst it might be more appealing to invest directly in the football club and feel personally involved you will have minimal influence in decisions and voting. I believe at a corporate shareholding level, voting does not work on a one person one vote basis, it comes down to the value of your holding. C1872 with £millions would have substantially more voting rights than small fry investors. Its why the C1872 (supporters club) exists. Ultimately they want a say in how the Club is run and if King is to be believed, Never Again. In his mind fan interests should be protected hence his proposal.
    I know nothing about how C1872 operate or the individuals involved but reading on here, there is a lack of faith in their abilities. As a minimum, with this issue now before us, I would expect them to be promoting themselves to a wider audience unless they think they are confident of raising  £13.5 million from their existing 7000 members - unlikely unless they have a sugar daddy. 
    My previous comment remains pertinent. They need to be communicating with our global fan base setting out the details of the deal they are after, what their plans are for raising the cash, how they operate and what it means to us individually so we are all clear on the way forward. 
    Is the main Club Board in support of what is being proposed. Wouldn't be a great start if they were not in favour. 
     
     
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Bears r us in Club 1872 Statement   
    Morning. I fully understand what you are saying here and it is questions like this and ones from JCDBig Bear and Sweetheart that leads me to be suggesting that clarification is required to help us rank and file supporters understand what is involved and how the future will look.
    There are some answers on the C1872 website if you look and I would suggest checking the FAQ's section and also the bit on Legacy. 
    As I see it, Dave King has made the decision to sell his shares to C1872 as a collective supporters body wishing to see Rangers fans have a say in the future running of the football club. This offer is not available to individual buyers presumably on the basis that small investors would not have a voice of any significance. True, it could be that those such investors were able to proxy any future votes to C1872 but I guess there is no guarantee that would happen. Hence why King sees the strength in C1872.
    C1872's big issue is now to engage with the wider fan base and increase its membership sufficiently to secure legacy donations totalling £13.3m, that's if we buy at 20p by December 2021 - price likely to go up in Year 2 and 3. How are they going to do that and equally important how are they going to address questions and concerns?
    They may well be working behind the scenes to get things underway but at present, all I have seen is an updated website with news but unless I had looked, that will only have been targeted at the converted, ie their existing 7000 members and nosey buggers like me. The clock is ticking.
    How do they normally communicate, how do they normally recruit new members, are they doing enough? I am in the dark like so many and need somebody to shed the light. You guys have your questions as I do. I could be persuaded to donate my £500 but I want to some oomph from the C1872 Board and show us leadership and direction, come out with a brief capable of reaching the majority and perhaps including a QandA targeted at some of our concerns.
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from LochendBilly in Club 1872 Statement   
    Morning. I fully understand what you are saying here and it is questions like this and ones from JCDBig Bear and Sweetheart that leads me to be suggesting that clarification is required to help us rank and file supporters understand what is involved and how the future will look.
    There are some answers on the C1872 website if you look and I would suggest checking the FAQ's section and also the bit on Legacy. 
    As I see it, Dave King has made the decision to sell his shares to C1872 as a collective supporters body wishing to see Rangers fans have a say in the future running of the football club. This offer is not available to individual buyers presumably on the basis that small investors would not have a voice of any significance. True, it could be that those such investors were able to proxy any future votes to C1872 but I guess there is no guarantee that would happen. Hence why King sees the strength in C1872.
    C1872's big issue is now to engage with the wider fan base and increase its membership sufficiently to secure legacy donations totalling £13.3m, that's if we buy at 20p by December 2021 - price likely to go up in Year 2 and 3. How are they going to do that and equally important how are they going to address questions and concerns?
    They may well be working behind the scenes to get things underway but at present, all I have seen is an updated website with news but unless I had looked, that will only have been targeted at the converted, ie their existing 7000 members and nosey buggers like me. The clock is ticking.
    How do they normally communicate, how do they normally recruit new members, are they doing enough? I am in the dark like so many and need somebody to shed the light. You guys have your questions as I do. I could be persuaded to donate my £500 but I want to some oomph from the C1872 Board and show us leadership and direction, come out with a brief capable of reaching the majority and perhaps including a QandA targeted at some of our concerns.
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from markem in Club 1872 Statement   
    Thanks and yes I do realise what buying into C1872 means. Please note though that I am not advocating any particular route here. What I do believe is that more explicit information is required from both C1872 and the football club itself. This thread has already highlighted lots of mixed messages and misunderstandings.
    Joining C1872 and making a Legacy Donation puts funds in their coffers allowing them we believe to purchase cheap shares ( in 2021) from Dave King. If they secure all shares as touted C1872 would as of today be the major shareholder. Currently they have no place on the Board and no power, but their position will be strengthened. Any individual making a donation would only have a say in how C1872 business is conducted, not the football club.
    Whilst it might be more appealing to invest directly in the football club and feel personally involved you will have minimal influence in decisions and voting. I believe at a corporate shareholding level, voting does not work on a one person one vote basis, it comes down to the value of your holding. C1872 with £millions would have substantially more voting rights than small fry investors. Its why the C1872 (supporters club) exists. Ultimately they want a say in how the Club is run and if King is to be believed, Never Again. In his mind fan interests should be protected hence his proposal.
    I know nothing about how C1872 operate or the individuals involved but reading on here, there is a lack of faith in their abilities. As a minimum, with this issue now before us, I would expect them to be promoting themselves to a wider audience unless they think they are confident of raising  £13.5 million from their existing 7000 members - unlikely unless they have a sugar daddy. 
    My previous comment remains pertinent. They need to be communicating with our global fan base setting out the details of the deal they are after, what their plans are for raising the cash, how they operate and what it means to us individually so we are all clear on the way forward. 
    Is the main Club Board in support of what is being proposed. Wouldn't be a great start if they were not in favour. 
     
     
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from geneva_ger in Club 1872 Statement   
    Thanks and yes I do realise what buying into C1872 means. Please note though that I am not advocating any particular route here. What I do believe is that more explicit information is required from both C1872 and the football club itself. This thread has already highlighted lots of mixed messages and misunderstandings.
    Joining C1872 and making a Legacy Donation puts funds in their coffers allowing them we believe to purchase cheap shares ( in 2021) from Dave King. If they secure all shares as touted C1872 would as of today be the major shareholder. Currently they have no place on the Board and no power, but their position will be strengthened. Any individual making a donation would only have a say in how C1872 business is conducted, not the football club.
    Whilst it might be more appealing to invest directly in the football club and feel personally involved you will have minimal influence in decisions and voting. I believe at a corporate shareholding level, voting does not work on a one person one vote basis, it comes down to the value of your holding. C1872 with £millions would have substantially more voting rights than small fry investors. Its why the C1872 (supporters club) exists. Ultimately they want a say in how the Club is run and if King is to be believed, Never Again. In his mind fan interests should be protected hence his proposal.
    I know nothing about how C1872 operate or the individuals involved but reading on here, there is a lack of faith in their abilities. As a minimum, with this issue now before us, I would expect them to be promoting themselves to a wider audience unless they think they are confident of raising  £13.5 million from their existing 7000 members - unlikely unless they have a sugar daddy. 
    My previous comment remains pertinent. They need to be communicating with our global fan base setting out the details of the deal they are after, what their plans are for raising the cash, how they operate and what it means to us individually so we are all clear on the way forward. 
    Is the main Club Board in support of what is being proposed. Wouldn't be a great start if they were not in favour. 
     
     
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Hadron Collider in Club 1872 Statement   
    Thanks and yes I do realise what buying into C1872 means. Please note though that I am not advocating any particular route here. What I do believe is that more explicit information is required from both C1872 and the football club itself. This thread has already highlighted lots of mixed messages and misunderstandings.
    Joining C1872 and making a Legacy Donation puts funds in their coffers allowing them we believe to purchase cheap shares ( in 2021) from Dave King. If they secure all shares as touted C1872 would as of today be the major shareholder. Currently they have no place on the Board and no power, but their position will be strengthened. Any individual making a donation would only have a say in how C1872 business is conducted, not the football club.
    Whilst it might be more appealing to invest directly in the football club and feel personally involved you will have minimal influence in decisions and voting. I believe at a corporate shareholding level, voting does not work on a one person one vote basis, it comes down to the value of your holding. C1872 with £millions would have substantially more voting rights than small fry investors. Its why the C1872 (supporters club) exists. Ultimately they want a say in how the Club is run and if King is to be believed, Never Again. In his mind fan interests should be protected hence his proposal.
    I know nothing about how C1872 operate or the individuals involved but reading on here, there is a lack of faith in their abilities. As a minimum, with this issue now before us, I would expect them to be promoting themselves to a wider audience unless they think they are confident of raising  £13.5 million from their existing 7000 members - unlikely unless they have a sugar daddy. 
    My previous comment remains pertinent. They need to be communicating with our global fan base setting out the details of the deal they are after, what their plans are for raising the cash, how they operate and what it means to us individually so we are all clear on the way forward. 
    Is the main Club Board in support of what is being proposed. Wouldn't be a great start if they were not in favour. 
     
     
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from BlueAvenger in Club 1872 Statement   
    Great discussion and Hadron Collider is right about business acumen - in all areas. I think more clarification is required before fans can make a balanced decision. Apart from the Dave King announcement have Club 1872 come out on their own to address the issue and make it clear what their plans and methodology is for securing the funds or are they relying on folk going to their website. Equally, it would be good to hear from the Rangers Directors regarding this suggestion, do they support it as King says and are they willing to give C1872 a place on the Board.
    C1872 is I believe a supporters trust who have 7000 members each having an equal vote in the business of C1872. Those members elect their Representative Board who then conduct business on behalf of those members, in accordance with their own rules. Presently they don't have a seat on the Football Club Board but could if they secure the King shares and agreement of the main Board and shareholders. 
    I'm not 100% certain but think the King offer is a three year project. In year 1, shares can be bought for 20p, Year 2 23p and Year 3 26p. Hence why, C1872 are keen to get as much Legacy Donations done in Year 1 with the discount available. 
    To have a large shareholding improves the supporters chance of a place on the main Board and a voice in the future running of the club. Worth noting that even with 25% holding the other 75% could out vote C1872 if it was warranted. Hence why some kind of comment from the football club would ge welcome. Whilst it would be a nice thing to have your £500 or £1000 individual investment in Rangers, your voice as a shareholder would be almost non existent in influential terms. That's why the C1872 exists and why has the support of King. He could if he wanted just sell the the highest bidder. Never Again.
    Thats my interpretation of it. Think we could all benefit from Football Club and C1872 statements, although the Rangers may have their hands tied legally as far as investment information is concerned
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from Hadron Collider in Club 1872 Statement   
    Great discussion and Hadron Collider is right about business acumen - in all areas. I think more clarification is required before fans can make a balanced decision. Apart from the Dave King announcement have Club 1872 come out on their own to address the issue and make it clear what their plans and methodology is for securing the funds or are they relying on folk going to their website. Equally, it would be good to hear from the Rangers Directors regarding this suggestion, do they support it as King says and are they willing to give C1872 a place on the Board.
    C1872 is I believe a supporters trust who have 7000 members each having an equal vote in the business of C1872. Those members elect their Representative Board who then conduct business on behalf of those members, in accordance with their own rules. Presently they don't have a seat on the Football Club Board but could if they secure the King shares and agreement of the main Board and shareholders. 
    I'm not 100% certain but think the King offer is a three year project. In year 1, shares can be bought for 20p, Year 2 23p and Year 3 26p. Hence why, C1872 are keen to get as much Legacy Donations done in Year 1 with the discount available. 
    To have a large shareholding improves the supporters chance of a place on the main Board and a voice in the future running of the club. Worth noting that even with 25% holding the other 75% could out vote C1872 if it was warranted. Hence why some kind of comment from the football club would ge welcome. Whilst it would be a nice thing to have your £500 or £1000 individual investment in Rangers, your voice as a shareholder would be almost non existent in influential terms. That's why the C1872 exists and why has the support of King. He could if he wanted just sell the the highest bidder. Never Again.
    Thats my interpretation of it. Think we could all benefit from Football Club and C1872 statements, although the Rangers may have their hands tied legally as far as investment information is concerned
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    LookingForEric reacted to Hadron Collider in Club 1872 Statement   
    Business acumen will be seriously important here. 
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    LookingForEric reacted to siddiqi_drinker in Glaswegian loyal bus Berlin to Legia Warsaw away   
    Can we Lock this till we are actually through --- don't want to jinx anything   --- remember the Ayrshire mob and the tarriers. 
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    LookingForEric got a reaction from LegendofCoop in Our mentality this season....   
    Have to agree and who wouldn’t be chuffed with a 6.1 win but, there were times in that game where our concentration levels dropped. We are playing some lovely football but we need to raise the intensity still further, to many sideways and backward passing where incisive forward passes are on. Our wide men and centre forwards are making great runs and need the early ball. We run the risk of getting caught out when we try the pull back.
    Still, very happy (honest) lets just keep the pressure and momentum high - no mercy.
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    LookingForEric reacted to SeparateEntityMyArse in Borna   
    And he was right to do so. Ref was a clown, wouldnt say he was card happy though considering the numerous worse fouls particularly on Ojo than what our two got booked for (Arfields wasnt even a foul, not certain Barisic was either).
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    LookingForEric reacted to theblueskyeman in First choice CB pairing?   
    It’s s tough one. Can’t remember seeing a manager take this approach to the centre back positions. Haven’t seen enough of Hellander but for the money we’ve paid out you’d think he’d be there? 4 quality players in that position but do we need a two with proper understanding of each other? I would have thought so. Goldson and Katic but the two two new boys look quality.  Good problem to have but at the same time not too sure about always swapping players about at the back
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    LookingForEric reacted to graeme_4 in Barišić   
    Doing well today. 
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    LookingForEric reacted to 10pshortof17pound in What do you think of us tactically?   
    We could have had seven by the same argument.
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