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Calvay Club and Glenmavis OL week about, and Corkerhill if were in Europe.

Well he didn't exactly get the warmest of welcomes Shit happens and sometimes people growl in the bear's den. Fortitude, son... fortitude. It's a prerequisite if your going to enter the big bad lime light, and you can't scurry away in the huff if you don't get your ego stroked by the masses.

He doesn't stick up for, or talk for me. I'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own mind up, and vote with my feet and my wallet if I have to! As yet, I don't see the need to. i am sure you can speak for yourself, but i suppose even if we dont win the title this season you will still see nothing wrong. You suppose wrong! I have never accepted second best for my team, but I also know that that's how football goes sometimes. I'm not Walter Smith's biggest fan, and I do have some sympathy for the Chairman... but I also understand that he's responsible for what happens at the club, and responsible for sorting things out. It’s a job nobody on here would relish, that’s for sure. People are living under the delusion that up until ten years ago everything was great, and we had nothing better to do than crush all that came before us. Not so! There has always been times of unrest at Ibrox, and there will be again, no doubt.

He doesn't stick up for, or talk for me. I'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own mind up, and vote with my feet and my wallet if I have to! As yet, I don't see the need to.

I see Sir David (Edgar, not Murray) didn't take long to high-tail it outta here! I wonder if he though he had nothing better to do than turn up, spout a few sound bites, and we would all fall under his spell?

Indeed. Still do! Mostly for reading rather than posting as I find a lot of the articles here very interesting. As I say, we were (rightly) criticised for being too inclined to think FF was the be all and end all. We are attempting to stop that. Though I see it's not a universally popular course of action with your regulars? Let’s get one thing straight here: FF is a cesspit filled to bursting with the FTP brigade, who seem welcome to ply their trade with impunity. I’ve even heard from a couple of reliable sources (one from a household name in Scottish football, whom I know personally) that the Scottish media and the like love FF as a bottomless pit of material to fill their pages. Slow day? Just log on to FF and you won’t have to look too far for material to vindicate the assertion in the Scottish press that it’s all about big bad Rangers’ supporters. It’s neither constructive, nor clever… and until you and the rest of your cronies realize that the better for us all. You think you’re smart with your populist rants, but they are nothing more than sound bites designed specifically to appeal to the lowest common denominator in our support. To the more educated amongst us, you come across as a self-promoting buffoon. It’s not difficult to see why the press patronize you and your like. What we need is leadership capable of realizing that our (the fan’s) passion for Rangers makes us our own worst enemy at times, and that public defense of songs like the billy boys and the BJK campaign is manna from heaven to the media. Let’s also get one other thing straight (something you mercilessly promote to your own ends), there isn’t a media campaign against us that’s born of hatred of all things Rangers. Look at it dispassionately (something good leadership should be capable of) and you’ll see that it’s the “global warming” scenario. Put simply, the press are in a feeding frenzy at the minute and we’re the target - it’s how things work. Unfortunately, the more we rage against them in the manner we do, the more they feed… Where is the charm offensive? Who courts the press on our behalf? Seventeen point rants and ill-conceived statements from an organization that purports to represent the ordinary fans simply has them salivating for more. That in turn opens the door to the real enemies (well know Scottish composers, high profile IRA sympathizers from Glasgow university and the like) to step up their libidinous campaign to discredit the whole of Scotland as a sectarian gutter. You’re fanning the flames, mate… and you can’t even see it. What we need is politically minded souls prepared to get into bed with Murray and the rest. Raging against the machine is futile. This thing can only be dismantled from the inside, and you have a better opportunity to do that than any of us. Leave your ego in the house of a morning, my friend, and use your position wisely… if you can!

Can't you just feel the love oozing out of them? Jeezus... talkabout pure hate!

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport...miss.4887885.jp I once wrote a letter to a local rag castigating a local SNP supporter for his persistent anti-English rhetoric (bordering on xenophobia) week in, week out, and made the mistake of including my name and address. Thinking, of course, that the discerning readership would see both sides of the argument in an adult sort of way… not a fooking hope! I’ve never had such a torrid time for the months that Followed: from anonymous hate mail to phone calls from the local police about “persistent complaints made by me”. It was truly awful. I for one would never think about putting my name on a web site… especially on such an emotive and hate-filled subject as the old firm, no way!

Signed

For someone who attacks another forum on the basis of certain posters I would have expected a bit more than personal abuse. If you’re talking about follow follow, then I have every right to criticize them. The part about personal abuse, I’m not quite sure what you mean… you might want to expand that for me. In the final analysis, if you don’t like people with contrary viewpoints, then that’s your issue. As long as I live and breath, nobody will tell me what to think and how to think it. I see things with my own eyes, and that‘s how it will always be. Rangers means as much to me as anybody else on the planet, don’t ever doubt that!

the only chancer is murray. Why am I not surprised by that response?

David Edgar I assume? I see you only a have a few posts on this board… call me cynical (and in your case I’m entitled to be) but why wait until now to come onto this board with your usual agenda-driven nonsense? Could it be that you somehow need our patronage? And anyway, what‘s wrong with cozying up to the Murray haters on follow follow these days? What a muppet coming out with this nonsense you seem to have a lot of hatred for Rangers supporters. So I’m cynical about David Edgar and I’m a muppet with a hatred for Rangers‘ supporters? You obviously don’t know the difference between shit and the brown, smelly stuff that comes out your arse! It’s called having an opinion, and being able to think for myself . I’ve been on this planet long enough to sniff out the likes of Edgar and his ilk without having to think too hard. If you need somebody to point you in the right direction and tell you what to think… fine. Only leave those of us old enough, and long enough in the tooth to spot a chancer when we see one to our own opinions.

David Edgar I assume? I see you only a have a few posts on this board… call me cynical (and in your case I’m entitled to be) but why wait until now to come onto this board with your usual agenda-driven nonsense? Could it be that you somehow need our patronage? And anyway, what‘s wrong with cozying up to the Murray haters on follow follow these days? Is this response not a perfect example of how people will criticise the RST no matter what it does? It has been attacked for using one particular forum and urged to use others. Yet, when it does, it is still wrong! I'm not criticizing the RST (don‘t think I ever have done), I'm aiming my contempt at David Edgar.

David Edgar I assume? I see you only a have a few posts on this board… call me cynical (and in your case I’m entitled to be) but why wait until now to come onto this board with your usual agenda-driven nonsense? Could it be that you somehow need our patronage? And anyway, what‘s wrong with cozying up to the Murray haters on follow follow these days?

I don’t see why we’re so set against youth in this game. Why is it that we don’t think a teenager has the maturity to be as good as they can be? FFS, we sent sixteen year-old boys to fight the fecking Germans in two world wars, yet we don’t dare expose them to the rigors of the “modern game” until they are in their mid-twenties! Rangers (and many other teams) have history of fielding mere boys who went on to become great. Moses McNeil was only sixteen when he decided to start a new football team, and see where that went. Derek Johnstone scored in cup finals for us at sixteen, and went on to play in Barcelona at seventeen. There is a whole list of greats who played debut games barely out of shorts and snottery breaks: Willie Waddle - 17 Willie Henderson - 17 Eric Caldow - 19 Ralph Brand - 17 Alfie Conn 17 Willie Woodburn - 18 Colin Jackson - 17 and so the list goes on. Bring in the youth I say, and to hang with Walter Smiths obsession with ignoring the greatest potential this club has.