Yeah thats true - between 05 -09 there was an English team in the champions league final every year (3 times a winner including an all English final) then Utd in 2011 and Chelsea 2012 so when people say the EPL is miles behind they are being a bit misguided, think the Germans will be the best for a while but it won't last forever, Bayern will be the team to beat for next 3 years perhaps then it could go any way. Chelsea and Man city could very well be the best teams in Europe in a few years time