dummiesoot Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 After the Tiago link thread and Muff saying his final ball is suspect, after our match yesterday I wonder whether any of our players actually practise passing or crossing on the run, because the amount of time we get in good positions only to put a ball in that does not beat the first man or leaves our players stretching to reach it in the first place, or worst of all - straight out of play. Do we practise any of this stuff as we are struggling in some games to close them out. To win yesterdays game only 1-0 was a disgrace given how we managed to create so many goal attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Corners, freekicks and crossing. I know people will tell me stop talking negative shite, but I'm absolutely convinced we don't practice any of the above at Murray Park, absolutely convinced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMWWBK Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I honestly think our free kick technique/move is the worst in world football. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissyger Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I wanted barry to take the one davis took yesterday, he scored one goal, nearly scored another, surely he would have been confident having a history of scoring free kicks! I was just glad our abundance of corners yesterday beat the first man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It's embarrassing, we can't even do the basics. It's really not that hard and it's something that should have been addressed at Murray Park years ago. You see better in the Junior Leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstamomusa Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 After the Tiago link thread and Muff saying his final ball is suspect, after our match yesterday I wonder whether any of our players actually practise passing or crossing on the run, because the amount of time we get in good positions only to put a ball in that does not beat the first man or leaves our players stretching to reach it in the first place, or worst of all - straight out of play. Do we practise any of this stuff as we are struggling in some games to close them out. To win yesterdays game only 1-0 was a disgrace given how we managed to create so many goal attempts. I don't know how training is conducted but I know in American Football the teams watch video film of the opponents and mold the game tactics to fit. They practice what they think will work against the particular team and players. It was awful watching corners yesterday, surely the training staff should see we are wasting so many opportunities and rethink the way/person taking them. I always beleived that is why you have players on the bench to change up the game if things are just not working. The practice field is where this should happen before the game is played and not just hoping the one goal will be enough to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. You get Kris Boyd either rattling a ball of the wall or hitting the corner flag. That's all that seems to happen when we get a set piece in a dangerous position. Occassionally you'll get Mendes or Davis firing a curling effort over the bar or straight into the keeper's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoist355 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 There should be purge of Playstations at Murray Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. You get Kris Boyd either rattling a ball of the wall or hitting the corner flag. That's all that seems to happen when we get a set piece in a dangerous position. Occassionally you'll get Mendes or Davis firing a curling effort over the bar or straight into the keeper's hands. Kris Boyd's freekicks I know three or four have went in over the last four years, but his 'run up and blooter it' style is so, so easy to defend against. Same could be said for most of our players mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Not another boyd thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRangers Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Davis's corners were too high and floated into the box yesterday and Hamiltons Centre halfs wouldve happily delt with them easily enough all day long. As for the freekicks i really dont think there is anyone in the team capable of taking a free kick tbo, Mendes may be one of the most skillfull but dead balls arent really his specialty. Similar can be said for Ferguson and Thommo as well, Fergie in particular hasnt scored a free kick since the OF cup final and thommo has never scored a free kick for us either. The only one in the team whos had any luck with them has been Boyd but even his have been just pure power hits into the top bag and those seem to be failing to even beat the wall to start with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Davis's corners were too high and floated into the box yesterday and Hamiltons Centre halfs wouldve happily delt with them easily enough all day long. As for the freekicks i really dont think there is anyone in the team capable of taking a free kick tbo, Mendes may be one of the most skillfull but dead balls arent really his specialty. Similar can be said for Ferguson and Thommo as well, Fergie in particular hasnt scored a free kick since the OF cup final and thommo has never scored a free kick for us either. The only one in the team whos had any luck with them has been Boyd but even his have been just pure power hits into the top bag and those seem to be failing to even beat the wall to start with now. Its better than them not beating the first man! And we actually caused quite a few problems from them, ironically we score eventually from the dreaded short corner though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissyger Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. You get Kris Boyd either rattling a ball of the wall or hitting the corner flag. That's all that seems to happen when we get a set piece in a dangerous position. Occassionally you'll get Mendes or Davis firing a curling effort over the bar or straight into the keeper's hands. Kris Boyd's freekicks I know three or four have went in over the last four years, but his 'run up and blooter it' style is so, so easy to defend against. Same could be said for most of our players mind you. Albertz took the same approach albeit with much more success. I think free kicks are an area where we are at a serious disadvantage to Celtic. As shite as Nakamura is, he does look dangerous from free kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goianegra Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Get Charlie Adam to take them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. You get Kris Boyd either rattling a ball of the wall or hitting the corner flag. That's all that seems to happen when we get a set piece in a dangerous position. Occassionally you'll get Mendes or Davis firing a curling effort over the bar or straight into the keeper's hands. Kris Boyd's freekicks I know three or four have went in over the last four years, but his 'run up and blooter it' style is so, so easy to defend against. Same could be said for most of our players mind you. Albertz took the same approach albeit with much more success. I think free kicks are an area where we are at a serious disadvantage to Celtic. As shite as Nakamura is, he does look dangerous from free kicks. Nah, I totally disagree. It's completely disrespectful to compare Albertz and Boyd. Albertz did batter a few, but he knew exactly where he was putting it. I get the impression Boyd just hits and hopes. And you'll find that Albertz curled more than a few beautifully into the top corner for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The wall trembled when Albertz approached the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMWWBK Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The funny thing is that everytime we get a freekick in a decent area the Setanta commentators are like "you have to be careful conceding free kicks in these sort of areas against Rangers". Why exactly? I can't remember we looked dangerous from a free kick. You get Kris Boyd either rattling a ball of the wall or hitting the corner flag. That's all that seems to happen when we get a set piece in a dangerous position. Occassionally you'll get Mendes or Davis firing a curling effort over the bar or straight into the keeper's hands. Kris Boyd's freekicks I know three or four have went in over the last four years, but his 'run up and blooter it' style is so, so easy to defend against. Same could be said for most of our players mind you. Albertz took the same approach albeit with much more success. I think free kicks are an area where we are at a serious disadvantage to Celtic. As shite as Nakamura is, he does look dangerous from free kicks. Nah, I totally disagree. It's completely disrespectful to compare Albertz and Boyd. Albertz did batter a few, but he knew exactly where he was putting it. I get the impression Boyd just hits and hopes. And you'll find that Albertz curled more than a few beautifully into the top corner for us Correct. Albertz hit his with intense swerve, spin and accuracy. Boyd's are nothing more than an aimless blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Okay this is not a Kris Boyd thread. Albertz was brilliant, but the actual technique employed by Rangers for Boyd freekicks, i.e. the tap to the side is a joke any decent defence will block it, we need someone that can hit a proper free kick. My main point is aimed at thelack of accuracy in crosses or final passes, eg Boyds volley yesterday, he was in the clear but the cross was about 5 feet too far ahead of Boyd instead he had to jump and stretch for the ball, we give our won strikers too much to do most times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It's not a Kris Boyd thread, but as he is (sadly) one of our main set-piece takers when it comes to direct freekicks, it's no surprise that he gets a mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It really makes you wonder what they do at Murray Park. Look at Man Utd's corner against Chelsea, although it didn't count but at least there was some imagination and innovation to it. Our free kicks are pathetic at times to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 It's not a Kris Boyd thread, but as he is (sadly) one of our main set-piece takers when it comes to direct freekicks, it's no surprise that he gets a mention My thread is about the final ball, I did not mention free kicks or corners, those have been done to death in the past. It is a sad indictment of our free kicks however that it looks as tho' Magic is starting to hover around free kicks. Anyone think that he fancies being a bit of an Amo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It can only be poor tactics/training that make us so terrible at the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleod1873 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 This has been seriously fustrating me for months. Corners aswell i actually wonder if they do practise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It's not a Kris Boyd thread, but as he is (sadly) one of our main set-piece takers when it comes to direct freekicks, it's no surprise that he gets a mention My thread is about the final ball, I did not mention free kicks or corners, those have been done to death in the past. It is a sad indictment of our free kicks however that it looks as tho' Magic is starting to hover around free kicks. Anyone think that he fancies being a bit of an Amo? Point taken It is pathetic though. Any team with a slither of footballing intelligence would find it so, so easy to defend against us from set pieces. Our defending of them is also awful. For some reason, we bring 11 men back instead of having the likes of Novo, Aaron, Fleck, Naismith, Beasley or Miller waiting for any counter attacks on the edge of the box. Very weird tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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