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I heard he would no longer bow down to SDM.

i find that hard to beleive

Mate I've been in Jim's company a few times and although I can't say I know him well. I do know that he is a true blue Rangers fan. Because he may not be as militant as many key board hard men does not mean that he does not have principles.

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I heard he would no longer bow down to SDM.

i find that hard to beleive

Mate I've been in Jim's company a few times and although I can't say I know him well. I do know that he is a true blue Rangers fan. Because he may not be as militant as many key board hard men does not mean that he does not have principles.

Agreed. (tu)

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This is why he resigned, in his own words, taken from a post on here at the time;

Jim says:

Hello all.

Recent incidents have encouraged me to evaluate the “relationship” of the Assembly and Rangers F.C., to say this has given me cause for concern is a considerable understatement.

There have been a number of events in recent weeks that I have taken into account and would now like to share my concerns with all of you.

01. Reduced allocation of away tickets to Supporters Clubs.

During a brief conversation with the club, I agreed that Season Ticket Holders should be given an increased proportion of away match tickets. Sometime later I was asked if I was happy with the contents of a letter the Ticket Office intended sending out to Supporters Clubs. I rejected the first letter but agreed to the contents of the second attempt.

The letter that was in fact sent out differed considerably from the one agreed to. The full details of the very considerable cut in club allocations had not been included in the letter I approved and when I spoke to Jim Hannah, I learned that he too had been unaware of the content of the final letter sent to clubs. Had I been aware of the level of cut back I would never had agreed to the proposal hence my reason for asking the club to reconsider.

I have no doubt that the Assembly was mentioned in an effort to deflect blame and criticism and you also have to speculate on the convenience of not providing me with sight of the full letter before sending it out.

02. Rangers demands for a 5% handling fee on away match tickets.

Whilst I agree in principal that Rangers are entitled to be compensated for handling away match tickets, I most certainly do not agree with how they tried to force it on other SPL clubs nor their timing in doing so. I also have to say that I find it unbelievable that the club did not see fit to discuss this with the Assembly prior to “forcing” the other clubs to agree. Ticket distribution is arguably the most important issue to supporters other than the success of the team and yet they chose not to discuss this with us it therefore begs the question would do they see fit to discuss with us.

I have looked at each club who has responded to Rangers demands in turn and would comment as follows:

Falkirk . In general appeared to work okay.

Aberdeen . They agreed to pay Rangers a handling fee, however for the first time in years, Aberdeen decided to implement a price increase. Conveniently they went up by £1 which amounted to a 5% increase. I wonder why? To make it clear to all why they did this, they offered a £1 discount to their own supporters for a future fixture. So who paid the handling fee and which club is looking after their supporters interests?

Hibs. They have decided to sell tickets direct as Falkirk did. Yet again we are faced with a price increase which will no doubt mean Hibs have covered their additional costs and again at our expense. To make matters worse, in spite of Rangers stating they would only handle ticket sales if they received a handling fee they have purchased 300 tickets which will no doubt be distributed to those and such as those. The phrase “them and us” springs readily to mind.

St. Mirren. They have agreed to Rangers request to pay a handling charge and will allow Rangers to distribute as normal. They have however been very clever. The only stand we have sole use of is the West Stand behind the goals and they have increased the price by £2. Prices for he North Stand, which we share, has remained unchanged at £20, in other words only Rangers fans will pay increased prices which I’m sure will go a long way to paying Rangers demands.

Kilmarnock . Although I have not heard officially, I am reliably informed that Kilmarnock will agree to Rangers demands and to offset the cost, will be increasing prices by £1.

To sum up the situation. Rangers have achieved their goal. Clubs who agree to the demands will pay Rangers and those who don’t will cost Rangers nothing but guess who will be paying for all of it? The very fans Rangers claimed they were trying to protect.

A job well done I don’t think.

03. Worldwide Alliance Expenses.

Those of you who attended the Alliance A.G.M. will no doubt recall the Treasurer, Sam Morton, reporting on his balance sheet and highlighting the fact funds were very low and required an injection of money from Rangers F.C. The fact was that Rangers had not provided the Alliance with funds to cover expenses for three years. Jim Hannah informed us that as far as he knew there was no budget for this and that I would have to take this up with the Club.

Not long after the A.G.M. I emailed Donald McIntyre requesting clarification. On return from my holiday, I received an email from Jim Hannah, on behalf of Donald McIntyre, informing me that the Assembly would now be responsible for Alliance expenses and that it should come from the Assembly grant. I have responded to Jim stating that in my opinion this is not feasible as it would then legitimately allow the other organisations involved in the Assembly to claim expenses to cover the cost of their own meetings. I have asked that he raise this with Donald McIntyre and await the response.

04. Assembly Grant.

During the conversation with regards to Alliance expenses, I learned that Rangers had reduced the Assembly grant from £30k to £20k as from 1st. July 2008.

Some months ago, I met with Irene Munro who informed me of Rangers desire to reduce the level of support. I refused point blank to accept this and in fact stated that even if I agreed with the request this would not be a decision I could make as it would need to go before a full Committee at our A.G.M.

No further discussions have taken place so it would appear as though Rangers are basically saying take it or leave it. They have attempted to soften the blow by saying we can keep the £10k we did not use last year. Big of them when it is us who have saved the money from being used and in my opinion a totally irrelevant gesture.

Each of the above items on an individual basis is in my opinion sufficient to illustrate the lack of respect the club has for the Assembly. When you consider them as a package then I think it is a fair assumption that they only value our input when they need us to show a united front or when trouble is brewing. The Assembly was formed in an attempt to bring the club and its supporters closer together. The above, I would suggest, shows that this is not happening. You could in fact argue the opposite is happening and that indeed the club are driving an ever widening wedge between us with their actions. To be perfectly honest, I do not believe the people involved in making the decisions highlighted above have the best interest of the Supporters at heart.

Taking all of the above into account, I wish to inform you of my decision to resign, with immediate effect, as President of the Rangers Supporters Assembly, Chairman of Rangers Worldwide Alliance and Chairman of the Scottish Delegates. I would like to thank you all for the time and effort you put in on a regular basis, I appreciate it even if the club so obviously doesn’t, and also for the support you have given me throughout my time in office.

Over the next few days, I will clear the Assembly Office of my belongings and also ensure the finances are in order. Obviously as Vice President, Andy Kerr will take over my duties and I would like to offer him my best wishes.

Jim

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Reason 4 is crap. The club is short of cash, and wanted to do reduce the money it gave to the Assembly - money which the Assembly was struggling to spend anyway. It underspent last year, and a chunk of the previous year's cash went on a dinner. The club were quite correct to reduce the cash, and the Assembly should be looking to save the club money.

Reason 3 isn't much better. As far as I can see, the Assembly is just the WWA, with a few bolt-ons that don't have much, if any, say on how the Assembly is run. Why not use the £30K/£20K if the WWA need the cash (although whether the WWA should be funded by the club is a whole different subject).

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I agree Bluedell, that if all departments are having to be trimmed back due to our financial mismanagement, it is only right and proper that the Assembly cut its cloth accordingly also.

There is nothing to stop the WWA or the Assembly doing fundraisers. After all, they have over 30,000 members as we keep getting told, so I am sure events would be sold out within seconds.

I actually like Jim as a person. He is one of us. I just believe he got sucked in when Rangers were looking for a vehicle to try to stop the RST in its infancy, and had the carrot of a Directorship dangled if he played along.

His resignation had more to do with him realising that the Directorship was never going to happen IMO, and he was made the scapegoat once too often, like in point 1.

His comments at the end of point 2 smack of pure frustration, whilst of course also being accurate.

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i don't know if jim templeton comes onto this site, maybe if he does he will give some answers but I do know that with regards to being made a director he refused to accept the offer on at least 3 occasions. i was told this by one of his fellow committee members

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i don't know if jim templeton comes onto this site, maybe if he does he will give some answers but I do know that with regards to being made a director he refused to accept the offer on at least 3 occasions. i was told this by one of his fellow committee members

That's not my understanding.

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I agree Bluedell, that if all departments are having to be trimmed back due to our financial mismanagement, it is only right and proper that the Assembly cut its cloth accordingly also.

There is nothing to stop the WWA or the Assembly doing fundraisers. After all, they have over 30,000 members as we keep getting told, so I am sure events would be sold out within seconds.

I actually like Jim as a person. He is one of us. I just believe he got sucked in when Rangers were looking for a vehicle to try to stop the RST in its infancy, and had the carrot of a Directorship dangled if he played along.

His resignation had more to do with him realising that the Directorship was never going to happen IMO, and he was made the scapegoat once too often, like in point 1.

His comments at the end of point 2 smack of pure frustration, whilst of course also being accurate.

To be fair, that was in July '08 which was before the Kaunas result happened and before we knew how bad our finances were.

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We knew we had to make cut-backs, even then.

We have been down-sizing everything at the club since 2001.

Every year, another round of cuts. The fact that the Assembly got £30K pa and didnt spend it meant they had no real argument to continue to receive the same level of support.

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i don't know if jim templeton comes onto this site, maybe if he does he will give some answers but I do know that with regards to being made a director he refused to accept the offer on at least 3 occasions. i was told this by one of his fellow committee members

That's not my understanding.

Jim was offered the directorship and refused it on at least 2 occasions.

Whether folk like him or not he a really good Rangers man that did his best for the club at all times.

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i don't know if jim templeton comes onto this site, maybe if he does he will give some answers but I do know that with regards to being made a director he refused to accept the offer on at least 3 occasions. i was told this by one of his fellow committee members

That's not my understanding.

Jim was offered the directorship and refused it on at least 2 occasions.

Whether folk like him or not he a really good Rangers man that did his best for the club at all times.

No he didn't!

Are you forgetting his comments the days after Pamplona ?

Right out of Murray's/Trayknob's song book...

The reason Templeton finally grew a pair and resigned was because RFC decided to mess with the RSC's, I still commend him on that! but saying he had Rangers best interests at heart when he was nothing more than a messenger for Murray is quite ridiculous.

And while Andy Kerr is without doubt a Rangers man, he'll never fully have Rangers best interests at heart while being chairman of the RSA.

The two can never, and will never be compatible IMO.

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i don't know if jim templeton comes onto this site, maybe if he does he will give some answers but I do know that with regards to being made a director he refused to accept the offer on at least 3 occasions. i was told this by one of his fellow committee members

That's not my understanding.

Jim was offered the directorship and refused it on at least 2 occasions.

Whether folk like him or not he a really good Rangers man that did his best for the club at all times.

No he didn't!

Are you forgetting his comments the days after Pamplona ?

Right out of Murray's/Trayknob's song book...

The reason Templeton finally grew a pair and resigned was because RFC decided to mess with the RSC's, I still commend him on that! but saying he had Rangers best interests at heart when he was nothing more than a messenger for Murray is quite ridiculous.

And while Andy Kerr is without doubt a Rangers man, he'll never fully have Rangers best interests at heart while being chairman of the RSA.

The two can never, and will never be compatible IMO.

Im positive that was the other fanny McMillian mate.

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