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Oh good this debate again.

BP9 does the fact no one ever seems to back you on this arguement not answer your question. a lot of these threads don't interest me so here is what i do, now i know,this may seem a novel idea but stick with me, i don't post on them. Maybe you should try that.

You have been told by the mods they won't be getting moved so why go on and on and on and on about it....... their is a Pretty simple solution if you don't like the moderation on a MB......

He has been asked not to post in those types of thread before, but he relentlessly pursues his agenda of dissociating Rangers from Protestantism/Unionism/Loyalism.

Even guys who don't agree with the association at least accept that there is one, unfortunately BP9's recalcitrant stance on the subject seems to be at the root of these debates falling into arguments and bitching.

Bolton Loyal - I find this strange did I not see a post from YOU just a few minutes ago calling for such a section ?

A totally seperate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant discussion would be superb CR if possible.

The history and traditions of our club are inextricably linked with the aforementioned views/beliefs and a seperate section where like minded folk could discuss these topics would cut down massively on the in-fighting we have at the moment regarding them.

Cheers (tu)

It seems we agree - it should be in a separate section!

Also it seems you (and the mods if what others say is true) dont want to debate this as I disagree - seems that the disagreement is not allowed if I follow your rational - nor am I the only one that thinks Rangers is about the football - and I have never denied the links in the past, I question their role in our future.

However this thread was about what would improve RM and it seeems we both agree that a separate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant is a good idea - lol we are on the same side.

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A totally seperate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant discussion would be superb CR if possible.

The history and traditions of our club are inextricably linked with the aforementioned views/beliefs and a seperate section where like minded folk could discuss these topics would cut down massively on the in-fighting we have at the moment regarding them.

Cheers (tu)

Here here, there are enough threads to make a section dedicated to it.

If you keep all the protestant/unionist/orange order/political posts in a dedicated section it would mean that the bears den could always be kept for the football.

I joined this site about a year ago. I have no idea about how it was founded, by who and why. I would like to see a bit about the history of the site and the people who came up with it. For respectful reasons only.

In other forums the quoting is is only allowed to be three deep. If this was put in place automatically it would cut some of your bandwidth and storage and also make threads easier to read. Scrolling threw the same posts only to get one new line, I feel is a waste of time.

I joined the sky sports fantasy football league. We have a dedicated Rangers media league set up by one of the members. How about doing what a lot of people do in work, people go a fiver a skull. All those who wanted could send £5 by pay pal to the Rangers media account. The site keeps £1 out of every £5 to help with the running costs of the site. The rest goes into the pot. The people who don't gamble/cant afford it can still play and compete. The money would be paid out to the top 3 finishers in the league that paid. Same could apply to the BBC predictor and so on.

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I'd get rid of all the posters who only emerge from the woodwork when a thread about religion or sectarianism comes online.

It's amazing how many 'new posters' ONLY post in those threads.

If no-one has anything to contribute towards the actual football, I'd sack them (td)

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A choice of 2 or 3 skins would be good, keep this one as classic for example, a modern one and a dark background white text option for W3C standards - hard to read users. People could choose their preferred choice.

PS some better avatars :anguish: some of these are from the 80's. LOL

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Oh good this debate again.

BP9 does the fact no one ever seems to back you on this arguement not answer your question. a lot of these threads don't interest me so here is what i do, now i know,this may seem a novel idea but stick with me, i don't post on them. Maybe you should try that.

You have been told by the mods they won't be getting moved so why go on and on and on and on about it....... their is a Pretty simple solution if you don't like the moderation on a MB......

He has been asked not to post in those types of thread before, but he relentlessly pursues his agenda of dissociating Rangers from Protestantism/Unionism/Loyalism.

Even guys who don't agree with the association at least accept that there is one, unfortunately BP9's recalcitrant stance on the subject seems to be at the root of these debates falling into arguments and bitching.

Bolton Loyal - I find this strange did I not see a post from YOU just a few minutes ago calling for such a section ?

A totally seperate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant discussion would be superb CR if possible.

The history and traditions of our club are inextricably linked with the aforementioned views/beliefs and a seperate section where like minded folk could discuss these topics would cut down massively on the in-fighting we have at the moment regarding them.

Cheers (tu)

It seems we agree - it should be in a separate section!

Also it seems you (and the mods if what you say is true) dont want to debate this as I disagree - seems that the disagreement is not allowed if I follow your raional - nor am I the only one that thinks Rangers is about the football - and I have never denied the links in the past, I question their role in our future.

However this thread was about what would improve RM and it seeems we both agree that a separate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant is a good idea - lol we are on the same side.

BP9, which part of the mods/admin have dicussed this issue and decided as a whole that it is preferable to have these discussions in the Bear's Den that you don't understand.

Give it a rest will you, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs then start a thread in the debating chamber and leave your whinging of the board.

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oh and someone to tell me what that " warn 0%" thing is on the left of my posts, makes me feel like I have done / said something wrong!!!

You're fine mate, at 0% means you're not in any trouble, if you started abusing members or post inappropriate pictures etc without heeding a gentle warning then your warn level would be raised accordingly and depending on the nature of the incident you might get put in pre-mod for a period of time.

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oh and someone to tell me what that " warn 0%" thing is on the left of my posts, makes me feel like I have done / said something wrong!!!

It means you are whiter than white mate. If it goes up to 25% then you know you have done something wrong. Nothing to worry about. :)

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I'd get rid of all the posters who only emerge from the woodwork when a thread about religion or sectarianism comes online.

It's amazing how many 'new posters' ONLY post in those threads.

If no-one has anything to contribute towards the actual football, I'd sack them (td)

Hmmm, then, on a twist on that, why not impliment some type of rule where you cant get into the BD without a certain number of posts? A LOT of sites do that, where you have to post in other areas of the forum, and, dont get access to all of it until a certain level. That may deter some of those.

Also, why not a "New Members" thread/area? Could act as above, get familiar with site rules etc

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I'd get rid of all the posters who only emerge from the woodwork when a thread about religion or sectarianism comes online.

It's amazing how many 'new posters' ONLY post in those threads.

If no-one has anything to contribute towards the actual football, I'd sack them (td)

Hmmm, then, on a twist on that, why not impliment some type of rule where you cant get into the BD without a certain number of posts? A LOT of sites do that, where you have to post in other areas of the forum, and, dont get access to all of it until a certain level. That may deter some of those.

Also, why not a "New Members" thread/area? Could act as above, get familiar with site rules etc

Mate, the BD is the pinnacle of this site, it is what most people sing-up for. If you need to have a certain number of posts it would mean posting in the dirge that is the Off-Topic section, and that is enough to put anyone off the site.

Restricitng access to the main part of the forum is suicide.

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Debate on what gets posted in the Bears Den - I like its current definition but over the summer we had a lost of new threads concerning issues such as marches, Protestant causes etc. that had very little to do with (if anything) Rangers or Football. There seems to be quite active moderation already on the site wrt where things get posted so the debate is: Do these threads improve RM? and; Should these threads be in the Bears Den?

Technically I dont know if this is possible (or I have missed it) but is there any way of just tracking the changes ina few threads or something where it is easier to monitor a thread in 'real' time when an active discussion is going on (I think that a chat room may be good but prevents others seeing an active debate and contributing.

Should each player have a permanant thread to discuss their performance (or lack of) to save multiple threads being opened - Boyd, Weir, McCollough, Broadfoot, David, Mendez, Fleck etc. It may just save time and room!

Its only your opinion that Protestant links have nothing to do with Rangers. If you dont like it just stay out the thread and leave others to discuss it.

Thats your idea of debate is it? I at least think there should be a debate - you however just want to dictate. Why would you NOT want your own thread for these subjects? - then I will gladly stay out of it and you can go and discuss your causes to your hearts content without dissent!

We do have a debate as you can see with the amount of posts in the Protestant threads, what you dont like is that we are a Protestant club and thats your problem. As Frankie told you when you wanted to shift it out of the Beard Den, that it is conected with our club and will not be shifted so why not stay out of the thread if you dont like it.

For example - There were threads about the Forces march in Glasgow and the numpties that spoilt it - interesting, great debate but why in the Bears Den - definition - Official Rangers FC Discussion Area -- Rangers talk for Rangers fans only! Official Rangers FC Discussion Area -- Rangers talk for Rangers fans only! -

Now I think that topic did not fall into that catagory and definition - It had nothing to do the Rangers FC, never mentioned Rangers FC and was not exclusive to Rangers FC fanes, so (IMHO) belongs elsewhere. I suppose the trouble is when moderators want to use the threads so their own message gets promoted and others get censored for disagreeing it is hard for those not in power to be heard - however that doesn't mean we will stop trying to be heard.

Except it IS relevant mate

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display...an_soldiers.php

Rangers, possibly due to the Unionist/British links, ALWAYS honour our forces, so do many many of the fans, therfore this is something that should be in the BD.

I agree that we should honour the forces (I was 6.5 years in the Army after all, married to a lass from Omagh for 22 years now and get the whole issue) but the question is should this be in the Bears Den? Is it relevant to Rangers FC or only to a section of our fans? Where should it be debated - in its own forum or in the Bears Den?

- Now (as you know) I quite like the debates on the future direction of the club and whether strengthened or not by external associations (and see thats OK in the BD - its relevant) BUT that topic (as used as an example) did not even mention Rangers - now it may be of interest to some posters - but if I posted the latest Budget by the Chancellor on the Bears Den it would be of interest to many of the posters BUT I am sure it would be shifted to the General Discussion section pretty quick on the grounds of relevance, thus articles on Marches etc. while interesting should not be in the Bears Den.

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Hmmm, then, on a twist on that, why not impliment some type of rule where you cant get into the BD without a certain number of posts? A LOT of sites do that, where you have to post in other areas of the forum, and, dont get access to all of it until a certain level. That may deter some of those.

It would make more sense to restrict access to the rest of the site until you have so many posts in the BD - that would weed out a lot of imposters.

But there are loads post in off topic who (I think) don't know anything about football, they just enjoy the childish banter....

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oh and someone to tell me what that " warn 0%" thing is on the left of my posts, makes me feel like I have done / said something wrong!!!

It means you are whiter than white mate. If it goes up to 25% then you know you have done something wrong. Nothing to worry about. :)

all righty, but any chance it could be taken out?

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Oh good this debate again.

BP9 does the fact no one ever seems to back you on this arguement not answer your question. a lot of these threads don't interest me so here is what i do, now i know,this may seem a novel idea but stick with me, i don't post on them. Maybe you should try that.

You have been told by the mods they won't be getting moved so why go on and on and on and on about it....... their is a Pretty simple solution if you don't like the moderation on a MB......

He has been asked not to post in those types of thread before, but he relentlessly pursues his agenda of dissociating Rangers from Protestantism/Unionism/Loyalism.

Even guys who don't agree with the association at least accept that there is one, unfortunately BP9's recalcitrant stance on the subject seems to be at the root of these debates falling into arguments and bitching.

Bolton Loyal - I find this strange did I not see a post from YOU just a few minutes ago calling for such a section ?

A totally seperate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant discussion would be superb CR if possible.

The history and traditions of our club are inextricably linked with the aforementioned views/beliefs and a seperate section where like minded folk could discuss these topics would cut down massively on the in-fighting we have at the moment regarding them.

Cheers (tu)

It seems we agree - it should be in a separate section!

Also it seems you (and the mods if what you say is true) dont want to debate this as I disagree - seems that the disagreement is not allowed if I follow your raional - nor am I the only one that thinks Rangers is about the football - and I have never denied the links in the past, I question their role in our future.

However this thread was about what would improve RM and it seeems we both agree that a separate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant is a good idea - lol we are on the same side.

BP9, which part of the mods/admin have dicussed this issue and decided as a whole that it is preferable to have these discussions in the Bear's Den that you don't understand.

Give it a rest will you, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs then start a thread in the debating chamber and leave your whinging of the board.

I thought this was a thread to discuss how to improve RM and it seems there at least 3 posters on this thread have agreed with me that their should be a separate section (although they have done so with different motivation) but am I not allowed to debate this in this thread ?

Now if these decisions have already been made and are set in stone why have a debate or is this just like a government consultation - we have made the decision and they will consult? Please let me know the list of proscribed suggestion I am allowed to discuss?

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oh and someone to tell me what that " warn 0%" thing is on the left of my posts, makes me feel like I have done / said something wrong!!!

It means you are whiter than white mate. If it goes up to 25% then you know you have done something wrong. Nothing to worry about. :)

all righty, but any chance it could be taken out?

Sorry mate it can't, I might be wrong on this but apart from staff I think you're the only one who can see what level you're at.

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oh and someone to tell me what that " warn 0%" thing is on the left of my posts, makes me feel like I have done / said something wrong!!!

It means you are whiter than white mate. If it goes up to 25% then you know you have done something wrong. Nothing to worry about. :)

all righty, but any chance it could be taken out?

Sorry mate it can't, I might be wrong on this but apart from staff I think you're the only one who can see what level you're at.

You're not wrong bud (tu)

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I'd get rid of all the posters who only emerge from the woodwork when a thread about religion or sectarianism comes online.

It's amazing how many 'new posters' ONLY post in those threads.

If no-one has anything to contribute towards the actual football, I'd sack them (td)

Hmmm, then, on a twist on that, why not impliment some type of rule where you cant get into the BD without a certain number of posts? A LOT of sites do that, where you have to post in other areas of the forum, and, dont get access to all of it until a certain level. That may deter some of those.

Also, why not a "New Members" thread/area? Could act as above, get familiar with site rules etc

Mate, the BD is the pinnacle of this site, it is what most people sing-up for. If you need to have a certain number of posts it would mean posting in the dirge that is the Off-Topic section, and that is enough to put anyone off the site.

Restricitng access to the main part of the forum is suicide.

I suppose, in that case, its about quantity over quality then mate. If I sign up for a forum, I dont expect to get to the best part straight away, or, at the very least, I expect not to get access to all the site at first, thats just how it goes. By setting parameters, you get a better (or at least more persistant) quality of member.

The only things about RM that really can be improved, are content in some areas, as was highlighted in regard to the museum etc, and, the structure of the site itself, which includes members I guess.

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Oh good this debate again.

BP9 does the fact no one ever seems to back you on this arguement not answer your question. a lot of these threads don't interest me so here is what i do, now i know,this may seem a novel idea but stick with me, i don't post on them. Maybe you should try that.

You have been told by the mods they won't be getting moved so why go on and on and on and on about it....... their is a Pretty simple solution if you don't like the moderation on a MB......

He has been asked not to post in those types of thread before, but he relentlessly pursues his agenda of dissociating Rangers from Protestantism/Unionism/Loyalism.

Even guys who don't agree with the association at least accept that there is one, unfortunately BP9's recalcitrant stance on the subject seems to be at the root of these debates falling into arguments and bitching.

Bolton Loyal - I find this strange did I not see a post from YOU just a few minutes ago calling for such a section ?

A totally seperate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant discussion would be superb CR if possible.

The history and traditions of our club are inextricably linked with the aforementioned views/beliefs and a seperate section where like minded folk could discuss these topics would cut down massively on the in-fighting we have at the moment regarding them.

Cheers (tu)

It seems we agree - it should be in a separate section!

Also it seems you (and the mods if what you say is true) dont want to debate this as I disagree - seems that the disagreement is not allowed if I follow your raional - nor am I the only one that thinks Rangers is about the football - and I have never denied the links in the past, I question their role in our future.

However this thread was about what would improve RM and it seeems we both agree that a separate section for Loyalist/Unionist/Protestant is a good idea - lol we are on the same side.

BP9, which part of the mods/admin have dicussed this issue and decided as a whole that it is preferable to have these discussions in the Bear's Den that you don't understand.

Give it a rest will you, if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs then start a thread in the debating chamber and leave your whinging of the board.

I thought this was a thread to discuss how to improve RM and it seems there at least 3 posters on this thread have agreed with me that their should be a separate section (although they have done so with different motivation) but am I not allowed to debate this in this thread ?

Now if these decisions have already been made and are set in stone why have a debate or is this just like a government consultation - we have made the decision and they will consult? Please let me know the list of proscribed suggestion I am allowed to discuss?

Every single thread you post in you raise the same old subject, and time and time again with regards to this ONE issue you have been told it has been decided that the conversations are more relevant in the BD. Any other ideas such as the excellent museum idea will be considered.

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I'd get rid of all the posters who only emerge from the woodwork when a thread about religion or sectarianism comes online.

It's amazing how many 'new posters' ONLY post in those threads.

If no-one has anything to contribute towards the actual football, I'd sack them (td)

Hmmm, then, on a twist on that, why not impliment some type of rule where you cant get into the BD without a certain number of posts? A LOT of sites do that, where you have to post in other areas of the forum, and, dont get access to all of it until a certain level. That may deter some of those.

Also, why not a "New Members" thread/area? Could act as above, get familiar with site rules etc

Mate, the BD is the pinnacle of this site, it is what most people sing-up for. If you need to have a certain number of posts it would mean posting in the dirge that is the Off-Topic section, and that is enough to put anyone off the site.

Restricitng access to the main part of the forum is suicide.

I suppose, in that case, its about quantity over quality then mate. If I sign up for a forum, I dont expect to get to the best part straight away, or, at the very least, I expect not to get access to all the site at first, thats just how it goes. By setting parameters, you get a better (or at least more persistant) quality of member.

The only things about RM that really can be improved, are content in some areas, as was highlighted in regard to the museum etc, and, the structure of the site itself, which includes members I guess.

But surely when you sing-up to a Rangers forum you would expect to be able to post about Rangers right away. Having to cut your teeth in the "nonsense" section will hardly inspire you. You would just look elsewhere for Rangers discussion.

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