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seen papaguy's thread about not bringing on the young players when we were 3 up and coasting against st johnstone

would it be worthwhile though?

i can understand that we want the young boys given game time, but what will they really learn in 30mins of a game thats finished and both teams are just playing out time

after the 3rd goal on saturday, there was no rush by both teams, no pressure on ANY of the players, so will that aid the development of the young boys any more than them getting 90mins of a youth game under their belt

the only way to REALLY see if the youths will make it is to throw them in at the deep end (ala wilson this season) and see how they progress

the last 30mins of saturday was like a training session, pointless giving the youth that imo when we can keep the fitness of our first team squad up

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Its better than f*ck all!

is it though?

at least getting 90mins of a youth game/bounce match is better at giving them more time etc

but half an hour against a st johnstone team that have chucked it isnt going to help

if we want these boys to learn then give one or two of them the full game against st johnstone, st mirren etc at home

we could have started with ness, wilson etc and most likely still won the game

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:D Is it worthwhile starting a new thread about the same subject rather than replying to the original one???

I know.....lets see? :P

As a youngster would you A) Rather get 30 mins competative action in a first team game you were sure to win in front of a packed Ibrox.....or just sit & watch the game from the bench/stand???

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IMO, i think being 3 nil up against st. Jonstone, no better chance for a youngster, the more experince the better.

what experience will they gain from 30mins in a game that is basically finished

there's no pressure on them, when the opposition have chucked it

the only way to give them experience is to do what we did with danny wilson, throw them in at the deep end

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Time on the park against competitive SPL opposition?

There's absolutely no doubt that it's worth it.

thats my point though papa

the last 30mins on sat was anything but competitive

if anything the youths need to START games to be beneficial

You need to be realistic under this management though.

Youths are the last port of call, especially 'untested' ones.

Fleck's no longer an untested youth, he's close to being first choice for the wide midfield positions, but others like Little and Wilson will only play when we're down to the bare bones.

With that in mind, any competitive game time is welcome.

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Youngsters add a bit of positivity, eagerness to get on the ball and impress - which would liven the place up. In a match that has already been won, and one we are cruising in, it get's a bit flat and stale, bringing someone on who is eager to get on the ball, involved, and impress, is exactly what I want to see, and why giving youth an outing is important. John Fleck is a perfect example, and although he wasn't at his best, he looked for the ball, tried to create, was greedy on a few occassions as he had a dig at goal.

Youngsters should be getting their chance all the time, whether it's from the start, at half time, or when a game is dead and buried. There is more chance of people staying, and being lifted off their seats when they see someone like, John Fleck, Danny Wilson, Jamie Ness, Gregg Wylde, Andrew Little....come on, than someone like Lee McCulloch, Steven Naismith, Kyle Lafferty....plus, these youngsters are just as good, if not better than some of the so-called 1st team players!

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Youngsters add a bit of positivity, eagerness to get on the ball and impress - which would liven the place up. In a match that has already been won, and one we are cruising in, it get's a bit flat and stale, bringing someone on who is eager to get on the ball, involved, and impress, is exactly what I want to see, and why giving youth an outing is important. John Fleck is a perfect example, and although he wasn't at his best, he looked for the ball, tried to create, was greedy on a few occassions as he had a dig at goal.

Youngsters should be getting their chance all the time, whether it's from the start, at half time, or when a game is dead and buried. There is more chance of people staying, and being lifted off their seats when they see someone like, John Fleck, Danny Wilson, Jamie Ness, Gregg Wylde, Andrew Little....come on, than someone like Lee McCulloch, Steven Naismith, Kyle Lafferty....plus, these youngsters are just as good, if not better than some of the so-called 1st team players!

:rolleyes: Walter knows best.

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The Young Lads Need To Gain Experience. By giving them 30 mins when cruising is ideal. What if like Arsenal and the left back crisis we need to call upon these boys? They will be nervous wrecks playing against the likes of Dundee Utd. Just look at Little v The Verman earlier this season, he was pants in the 12 mins he played. With a bit more playing time and the right coaching is the only way forward for the youth.

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The Young Lads Need To Gain Experience. By giving them 30 mins when cruising is ideal. What if like Arsenal and the left back crisis we need to call upon these boys? They will be nervous wrecks playing against the likes of Dundee Utd. Just look at Little v The Verman earlier this season, he was pants in the 12 mins he played. With a bit more playing time and the right coaching is the only way forward for the youth.

:craphead:

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The Young Lads Need To Gain Experience. By giving them 30 mins when cruising is ideal. What if like Arsenal and the left back crisis we need to call upon these boys? They will be nervous wrecks playing against the likes of Dundee Utd. Just look at Little v The Verman earlier this season, he was pants in the 12 mins he played. With a bit more playing time and the right coaching is the only way forward for the youth.

:craphead:

yet wilson was thrown in at the deep end in the champions league and looked like a veteran :sherlock:

little was injured in the first few mins, and its also questionable if right back is actually anywhere near his position, so using hi as an example isnt the best

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