Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This old chestnut again, any manager, irrespective of where they came from and who've they've managed before won't necessary be a success at Rangers or any other club that they go to.All the criticism that went to Coisty during cup games, how many cups did we win when Coisty and Co came back?As for whether or not he can be a successful manager, going to another club for experience means absolutely nothing at all, if he is successful at another club still doesn't mean that he would be successful for us.As for this experience crap, that's just what it is, he is being taught by one of the greats, and with Scotland and us how many years has he now been Walter's assistant? That experience alone could be more valuable than managing a smaller club than ours where there is less expectation and pressures.If he does become manager next season for us, then and only then should he be judged, if he is a success then brilliant, if he crashes and burns then at least he tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Regarding the point that Coisty is too much of a joker and not "tough" enough etc.Paolo Maldini was quoted in this month's FourFourTwo saying what made Carlo Ancelotti such a great manager was his ability to get the team behind him and being comfortable enough to joke while still maintaining a level of discipline. I'm not saying Ally will ever be as good as him as a coach but if he finds the balance, it won't be a problem IMO.Little bit more on this, the public persona of Coisty is this joker attitude, but from the story's I've heard about him in the past he is one serious fucker behind closed doors when it comes to his football, and this was when he was playing.Yeah, he can be a great laugh, but he's not the sort of person you would want to cross and I think players past and present have a great respect for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,798 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Little bit more on this, the public persona of Coisty is this joker attitude, but from the story's I've heard about him in the past he is one serious fucker behind closed doors when it comes to his football, and this was when he was playing.Yeah, he can be a great laugh, but he's not the sort of person you would want to cross and I think players past and present have a great respect for him.Agreed 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 In a perfect world we could choose from a handful of the top managers but it looks like Coisty will be the man.Would I prefer a high profile successful manager? Yes probably, but that would have to be considered against how a high profile manager would perform on a limited budget and how well he could motivate players to play above their price tag. I will give Coisty my backing and hope that he has learned well from Walter. Time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flecky1 4 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Really ? you actually think Lafferty is better than Novo ?Im not saying Novo is amazing or anything but Lafferty is pishHe basically possesses no abilityNovo>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laffertywhat a pile of dog dirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Laff's Dodgy Barnett 20 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 what a pile of dog dirt agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Little bit more on this, the public persona of Coisty is this joker attitude, but from the story's I've heard about him in the past he is one serious fucker behind closed doors when it comes to his football, and this was when he was playing.Yeah, he can be a great laugh, but he's not the sort of person you would want to cross and I think players past and present have a great respect for him.These stories come from professionals who have played with him and players who he has coachedWhat would they know compared to the academia we have assembled on here..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 These stories come from professionals who have played with him and players who he has coachedWhat would they know compared to the academia we have assembled on here..... YepIf he does eventually become manager I really hope he is a success, which I'm sure most of the members wish also(there will be a few who won't, called lurkers).The problem that has been coming through that some don't have confidence in him, ironically, there were some members who said that Walter shouldn't have came back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgr1991 303 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Can i point out that everyone says he makes an arse of the crappy cup games he takes control of, yet, in the last 3 years, weve reached 5 finals out of 6 and won 4. Decent record for someones whos not ready to be a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 How can people criticise his record in the cups ? 1 scottish cup , 2 league cups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 i hope when it happens he is a major success as i dont want to see the guy ruined by the club he loves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 He takes over in the cups and has won all but 2 and one of them Walter took charge of the Old Firm final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,798 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I think people are overstating the whole "taking charge in the cups" thing. He probably has a larger input but I doubt that he manages the team for those matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 He shouldn't be our next manager. Numerous times he has taken charge, we have been awful!Walter may have had some input tonight, but everything was rotten about the selection and formation.I'm not trying to take away from the shocking individual performances btw.It's Walters team - He has more than some input.Judge McCoist on what he does next year when he's in total control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I think people are overstating the whole "taking charge in the cups" thing. He probably has a larger input but I doubt that he manages the team for those matches.You are correct.This si the first season he has picked the team and been in total charge for the cups.Walter and ally confirmed this before the dunfermline game. Seems he did have more responsability over the last few years but it was still walter that was boss in the cups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 You are correct.This si the first season he has picked the team and been in total charge for the cups.Walter and ally confirmed this before the dunfermline game. Seems he did have more responsability over the last few years but it was still walter that was boss in the cupsWhat? Coisty had total free reign or more of a free reign for the Dunferlime game?That was one of our best performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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