cooper1989 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 From DB:"Was he in the top 10 Midfielders of his generation"Yes he was. To say he wasn't is sheer denial. BAZ has run rings around the World Champs (Italy) Bossed Euro matches when we shouldn't have been on the park. Is tough -- played with injuries for us... and any player that has played with him says.."He will demand the ball against any team in the world, anywhere in the world -- and he will use it."ok... so Baz is well past it.. how come he is getting MOTM awards down south now? -- in the BEST league in the world? But you and Muff have an agenda v Barry.. It's clear. But, it's not a problem for me.btw Muff. Check out the Dundee UTD vid posted yesterday. Who did Davis skin for the 1st Gers goal? Yup. Your hero.. Morgaro Gomes. AYE .. let's sell EDU, Big Lee and KT to finance the massive move for your hero Gomes. I love this stuff. I do.Thank f*ck Walter is in charge. Oh yeah.. Another you slagged off big style Muff. Your apology list is getting a wee bit long now methinks. Football Professor? ffs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 First line, shite, doesn't wash! Second line; your clearly blind. So Davis skinned Gomis, yep he's shit Just shows you up as a clown for posting that Robert Harris of QotS skinned Bougherra earlier on in the season, I guess Bougherra is shite Gomis my hero, hardly, I sugested him once in a thread the other night. Slagged Walter Smith off, and rightly so - you've never slagged anyone off tho, I very much doubt that.Yet again because you are so fcuking thick I will say it again just for you - Ralf Rangnick - the football professor.Understand????As for the apology list, WTF? I've made two threads, one on Boyd and the other on Walter Smith. If you had read them properly instead of bumping your gums, you would have understood. I dont apologies for anything I have said re those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 From DB:"Was he in the top 10 Midfielders of his generation"Yes he was. To say he wasn't is sheer denial. BAZ has run rings around the World Champs (Italy) Bossed Euro matches when we shouldn't have been on the park. Is tough -- played with injuries for us... and any player that has played with him says.."He will demand the ball against any team in the world, anywhere in the world -- and he will use it."ok... so Baz is well past it.. how come he is getting MOTM awards down south now? -- in the BEST league in the world? But you and Muff have an agenda v Barry.. It's clear. But, it's not a problem for me.Graeme Alexander picks up MOTM in the so called greatest league in the world. I take it he's up there with Ferguson in the Worldclass bracket too? I have no agenda against Barry Ferguson, but if you want to try and paint that picture to try and elevate Barry Ferguson as "Worldclass" then so be it As I've already said nobody is denying he had some very good performances for us, but saying he was in the top 10 Midfielders of his generation and Worldclass. Is where me and you must see football in general differently respectfully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 This thread has just got silly.I can't believe we are even mentioning Barry in the same sentence as truly world class midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 No-one in this thread has even dissed Barry Ferguson's ability, so where is the agenda? Is it because we don't agree with your, 'Barry Ferguson was world class - top 10 players in his position for his generation'... ?I'll ask you this. How many European and World 11's was Barry Ferguson selected in. How many times was he nominated for European and World footballer of the Year... ?Please do tell me.Zidane, Davids, Ballack, Lampard, Gerrard, van Bommel, Makelele, Keane, Scholes, Veron, Rui Costa, Viera, Luis Enrique, Effenberg, Mendieta, Simeone, Nedved, Deco, Senna, Matthaus, Redondo, Schneider, Aimar, Riquelme... there are 24 off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I would also like to add that I have watched Barry Ferguson perform in the EPL this season and I don't see what everyone is raving about.He doesn't tackle and he rarely ventures over the half way line. When he gets the ball, he plays it simple (More often to the side of backwards). He often takes the ball from the back 4, but very few teams press him him up the park, so he has a lot of time to pick a simple pass.Most midfielders in the EPL can do that, but the world class players like Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard take the ball in the opposing half, play through balls and make things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edin-Bear-ugh 1 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 He is not as good yet, but at his age, I can only see him improving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartrangers 6 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 No chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertN 386 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Davis offers a lot more overall his best years are ahead of him Barry Ferguson believed the bullshit Advocaat fed him and that carried him so far but was found out in the end no way world classGreat players get better as time goes bye i expect davis to do this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErraPolis 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Absolutely not, Ferguson in his prime was up there with the best down south in his position. Davis is good yes but not comparable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandyIniesta-Nordahl Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 According to Dick Advocaat,Barry was as good as any mid-fielder(of his time) in the world,and I for one,whole heartedly agree with him.You guy's don't realize what the extraordinary talent Barry really was. He wasn't as good as Scholes, Keane, Riquelme, Mendieta, Gerrard, van Bommel, Ballack, Veron, Nedved...Totally disagree Muff,Barry carried some pretty ordinary Ranger teams on his back.I'd say Keane is probably theonly one on your list that could have done the same. You know Muff,I've sat in lunch rooms,with football fanatical work mates from all over the world,and honestly,Barry Ferguson was more revered than Lampard,Gerrard,Scholes etc.How the fuck did Ballack ever get on your list? :Ferguson was better than Riquelme and all the aforementioned players? I've heard it all now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I would also like to add that I have watched Barry Ferguson perform in the EPL this season and I don't see what everyone is raving about.He doesn't tackle and he rarely ventures over the half way line. When he gets the ball, he plays it simple (More often to the side of backwards). He often takes the ball from the back 4, but very few teams press him him up the park, so he has a lot of time to pick a simple pass.Most midfielders in the EPL can do that, but the world class players like Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard take the ball in the opposing half, play through balls and make things happen.Jeezo.You are too sensible for this thread. Stop telling the truth, the wee Barry-ites won't be able to handle it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 According to Dick Advocaat,Barry was as good as any mid-fielder(of his time) in the world,and I for one,whole heartedly agree with him.You guy's don't realize what the extraordinary talent Barry really was. He wasn't as good as Scholes, Keane, Riquelme, Mendieta, Gerrard, van Bommel, Ballack, Veron, Nedved...Totally disagree Muff,Barry carried some pretty ordinary Ranger teams on his back.I'd say Keane is probably theonly one on your list that could have done the same. You know Muff,I've sat in lunch rooms,with football fanatical work mates from all over the world,and honestly,Barry Ferguson was more revered than Lampard,Gerrard,Scholes etc.How the fuck did Ballack ever get on your list? :lol: Shut up, you're killing me here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudeBoy 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Davis is much better.The further Ferguson gets from Ibrox, the better he seems to have became. He wasn't that good, even in his 'prime'.Thank fuck he is gone. Good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Davis is much better.The further Ferguson gets from Ibrox, the better he seems to have became. He wasn't that good, even in his 'prime'.Thank fuck he is gone. Good riddance.No no.He was better than Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Ballack, Riquelme etc.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudeBoy 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Davis is much better.The further Ferguson gets from Ibrox, the better he seems to have became. He wasn't that good, even in his 'prime'.Thank fuck he is gone. Good riddance.No no.He was better than Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Ballack, Riquelme etc....Only at boozing and passing the ball three foot back.Which is, in itself, a skill if you do it simultaneously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Davis is much better.The further Ferguson gets from Ibrox, the better he seems to have became. He wasn't that good, even in his 'prime'.Thank fuck he is gone. Good riddance.No no.He was better than Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Ballack, Riquelme etc....Only at boozing and passing the ball three foot back.Which is, in itself, a skill if you do it simultaneously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,842 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Barry Ferguson was capable of world class performances, but to mention him in the same breath as player of world class quality, who turned in performances better than his for years of their careers, is ridiculous!Ferguson was awesome in a piss-poor SPL in 2002/2003. He was a very good player in 01/02, and was average in many of his other seasons. How someone can say he was in the top 10 midfielders in the world in that time period, when players such as Zidane, Scholl, Figo etc. performed better than him for almost a decade each in their careers. You'd be an absolute mug to mention Ferguson in the same breath as these players. Barry Ferguson was our Mendieta, had a couple of spellbinding seasons, had a big money transfer where he never did himself justice, and now will end his career playing for sh*te sides in an inflated league. Aye, pyur world class. Just because he once played well against Gerrard and co. does not make him a world beater, shame nobody was there to tell him that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,842 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Barry Ferguson was capable of world class performances, but to mention him in the same breath as player of world class quality, who turned in performances better than his for years of their careers, is ridiculous!Ferguson was awesome in a piss-poor SPL in 2002/2003. He was a very good player in 01/02, and was average in many of his other seasons. How someone can say he was in the top 10 midfielders in the world in that time period, when players such as Zidane, Scholl, Figo etc. performed better than him for almost a decade each in their careers. You'd be an absolute mug to mention Ferguson in the same breath as these players. Barry Ferguson was our Mendieta, had a couple of spellbinding seasons, had a big money transfer where he never did himself justice, and now will end his career playing for sh*te sides in an inflated league. Aye, pyur world class. Just because he once played well against Gerrard and co. does not make him a world beater, shame nobody was there to tell him that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Barry Ferguson was capable of world class performances, but to mention him in the same breath as player of world class quality, who turned in performances better than his for years of their careers, is ridiculous!Ferguson was awesome in a piss-poor SPL in 2002/2003. He was a very good player in 01/02, and was average in many of his other seasons. How someone can say he was in the top 10 midfielders in the world in that time period, when players such as Zidane, Scholl, Figo etc. performed better than him for almost a decade each in their careers. You'd be an absolute mug to mention Ferguson in the same breath as these players. Barry Ferguson was our Mendieta, had a couple of spellbinding seasons, had a big money transfer where he never did himself justice, and now will end his career playing for sh*te sides in an inflated league. Aye, pyur world class. Just because he once played well against Gerrard and co. does not make him a world beater, shame nobody was there to tell him that Can't get any fairer than that mate.Good comparison with Mendieta as well, even though in their relative primes, wee Barry couldn't lace the Spaniard's boots! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Ferguson dominated games against world class midfielders, steve davis has yet to make any impact at champions league level. I hope davis grows into the player fergie was but he ain't there yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I would also like to add that I have watched Barry Ferguson perform in the EPL this season and I don't see what everyone is raving about.He doesn't tackle and he rarely ventures over the half way line. When he gets the ball, he plays it simple (More often to the side of backwards). He often takes the ball from the back 4, but very few teams press him him up the park, so he has a lot of time to pick a simple pass.Most midfielders in the EPL can do that, but the world class players like Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard take the ball in the opposing half, play through balls and make things happen.Jeezo.You are too sensible for this thread. Stop telling the truth, the wee Barry-ites won't be able to handle it.I'm sorry.What I meant to say was "Oh Barry Barry, Barry Barry Barry Barry Ferguson!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariogers86 0 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 NO ONE IS BETTER THAN Barry and shame that he was gone from the club !!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 NO ONE IS BETTER THAN Barry and shame that he was gone from the club !!!!!!!!Where's the punchline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I would also like to add that I have watched Barry Ferguson perform in the EPL this season and I don't see what everyone is raving about.He doesn't tackle and he rarely ventures over the half way line. When he gets the ball, he plays it simple (More often to the side of backwards). He often takes the ball from the back 4, but very few teams press him him up the park, so he has a lot of time to pick a simple pass.Most midfielders in the EPL can do that, but the world class players like Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard take the ball in the opposing half, play through balls and make things happen.Jeezo.You are too sensible for this thread. Stop telling the truth, the wee Barry-ites won't be able to handle it.I'm sorry.What I meant to say was "Oh Barry Barry, Barry Barry Barry Barry Ferguson!"I would trust the opinions of people who watch him week in week out down there before the opinions of people that still seem to hold daft grudges against him.Everything I have read in the English press about Fergie has been complimentary, but I am sure you know better and they are all wrong……A lot of rewriting of history going on in this thread, I always knew we had a lot of youngsters on this site but surely even they can remember the the last ten years ffs……anyone who claims Fergie wasn’t an outstanding player at club, European and international level isn’t really worth listening too. If steve davis starts putting in the level of performance Fergie did in our european games then i will be over the moon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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