papaguy51 912 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I have voiced my opinions on this many times, and to be honest, I'm still not entirely sure that McCoist is the right man to lead Rangers as manager of the side.However, the fact that it's going to happen means that there's no point in voicing any more disapproval at it. Regardless of what any of us say, we will start the 2011/2012 season with Ally McCoist as manager.There is a fear that McCoist will just be a continuation of Smith, but it's personally not something I buy into. Ally McCoist will want to be known as his own man, he'll want to be known as a creative coach that produced original ideas. While learning the basics from Smith is no negative point, history has shown that assistants who move on to the 'big job' don't often follow the ideologies of the men that went before them.Does Mourinho manage like the late, great Bobby Robson? No.Does Carlos Quieroz manage like Sir Alex? No.Do Billy Davies' sides play like Craig Brown's sides? No.So I don't think there's a need to worry there. If anything, the examples above have often taken the excellent parts of the 'off the pitch' management from their old bosses, such as man management, but often play in a totally different style.It could also be said that we haven't seen the real McCoist managing yet. Although he was, to an extent, given the reigns in the Cup competitions, the spectre of Walter Smith still hovered above him. Ally knew that any little slip from him would put Rangers, but in the history books it would always say that it was Walter Smith that failed to progress. Given Ally's respect for the manager, I just don't think he was prepared to take as many 'risks' with Walter's team as he would with his own.So I urge those like myself who weren't too keen on McCoist becoming manager to re-think and give him the time of day in terms of the big job. He'll need the support, but I hope to see an original, fresh approach from the man on the park. Cherry picking bits and pieces from Walter's superb media and man management would be no bad thing however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie1807 146 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 That's a great post, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1993 101 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Agree mate, if walter feels like after 4 years Ally and Kenny are the right men for the job after hes gone then we should support them all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGers 96 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Agreed,Like you I'm not 100% convinced, but the one thing Ally has is the knowledge of what it takes to win at Rangers, both as a player and coach so it will give him a leg up over a PLG type guy who doesn't know the club. He'll want to put his own stamp on how he runs Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I would love to see a continuation of Walter, that would put my mind at ease massively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 He'll want to put his own stamp on how he runs Rangers.Absolutely mate, my post summed up in twelve words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbyst 570 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,722 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I like Ally but the thing that worries me is the fact he is supposed to be the one thats in charge of the cup games and IMO we labour in those games needing too many replays. He deserves a change though so I will back Ally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I don't think he's a guarantee for the job, regardless whats been said today.I don't know how we can guarantee anybody a job in a year time, unless no takeover is on the cards. Ally is his own man, and will do things his own way. But a year in football is a very long time indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iserdo 1 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 papaguy51,you are now at the top of my christmas card list.Plus the fact he is Rangers to the core makes it even better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It would not surprise me if Walter remains Ally (and Kenny's) Mentor, either officially or unofficially, providing continuity and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If Walter feels Ally is the man for the job then I'll back McCoist 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,967 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I have voiced my opinions on this many times, and to be honest, I'm still not entirely sure that McCoist is the right man to lead Rangers as manager of the side.However, the fact that it's going to happen means that there's no point in voicing any more disapproval at it. Regardless of what any of us say, we will start the 2011/2012 season with Ally McCoist as manager.There is a fear that McCoist will just be a continuation of Smith, but it's personally not something I buy into. Ally McCoist will want to be known as his own man, he'll want to be known as a creative coach that produced original ideas. While learning the basics from Smith is no negative point, history has shown that assistants who move on to the 'big job' don't often follow the ideologies of the men that went before them.Does Mourinho manage like the late, great Bobby Robson? No.Does Carlos Quieroz manage like Sir Alex? No.Do Billy Davies' sides play like Craig Brown's sides? No.So I don't think there's a need to worry there. If anything, the examples above have often taken the excellent parts of the 'off the pitch' management from their old bosses, such as man management, but often play in a totally different style.It could also be said that we haven't seen the real McCoist managing yet. Although he was, to an extent, given the reigns in the Cup competitions, the spectre of Walter Smith still hovered above him. Ally knew that any little slip from him would put Rangers, but in the history books it would always say that it was Walter Smith that failed to progress. Given Ally's respect for the manager, I just don't think he was prepared to take as many 'risks' with Walter's team as he would with his own.So I urge those like myself who weren't too keen on McCoist becoming manager to re-think and give him the time of day in terms of the big job. He'll need the support, but I hope to see an original, fresh approach from the man on the park. Cherry picking bits and pieces from Walter's superb media and man management would be no bad thing however.Superb post! I was not to keen also on ally getting the top job but with another season of learning from the master i feel more at ease with the idea!I would also agree with your point on Ally wanting to bring his own style to the team, with this and the things he has learned from walter i think it might just work!Bring on next season! WATP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 might find ellis doesnt want mccoist or any of the current management team in charge IF he takes over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeacare 9 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Walter must think Ally is up to the job, so if Ally got it he'd have my total backing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Seen this and thought I'd pop it in here:y Andrew DicksonMark Hateley reckons Ally McCoist is the ideal man to replace Walter Smith as Rangers' manager next year.The ex-England striker knows the club's record goalscorer as much as anyone having formed a hugely prolific partnership with him in the early 1990s.They scored a phenomenal 77 goals between them in the 1992/93 season and since McCoist has gone into coaching, Hateley has looked on with interest.Smith has mentored the 47-year-old since 2005, having first brought him into his coaching staff when he became Scotland manager.Hateley feels the time will be right at the end of the forthcoming campaign for McCoist to become his own man, provided Gers remain successful.He told Sky Sports News: "I would think he will be a good choice. Alistair has been working with Walter for a number of years now."He is a through-and-through Rangers supporter and he has been there both as a player and a coach."It would be a really positive appointment with the fans. Ally is a legend to them as a player and for what he has been doing alongside Walter."I think if everything goes well in the year ahead, I see no problems for him with regards to stepping up."It's something Alistair has his heart set on. It's always a big step up and in his role at the moment, he's the middle man between the dressing room and the manager."That would change and that'll be a big thing for him because he's a chatty guy who likes to be involved with the players."Once you get up to the next level in management, you have to take a step back from that but I feel he can do that."It'll be the hardest thing for him to cope with and we all love to be loved but I think with his coaching and the way he has been going, he'll handle that."Alistair has been standing in Walter's shadow for the last five years internationally and at club level but I feel he'll take it all in his stride."http://www.rangers.co.uk/articles/20100525/the-man-for-the-job_2254024_2059360 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 'I'll hold judgement, for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,643 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I agree with Papa that McCoist should be given the chance. Although DB is correct in the sense that especially at a club like us with the so called "financial state" we are in, we surely can't predict a year ahead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 'I'll hold judgement, for now.Maybe you should do that more often.Then, You would stop making a c*nt of yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Walter cannot predict who is the next Rangers manager, Especially with the way the finances are at the moment.A takeover in the next few months could see Walter and Ally out of a job.Glad Walter has signed his extension though, Now we can start planning for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandyIniesta-Nordahl Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Interesting post, but I still hold major reservations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Wouldn't be surprised if Ally kept Walter on speed dial, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I don't think Ally McCoist is the man to lead us forward but I'm not worrying about that now.Season 2010/11 is the only thing I'm concerned about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper1989 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Well, let's hope ALLY thinks he's ready. Walter says so.. good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolongawake 1,197 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If Walter feels Ally is the man for the job then I'll back McCoist 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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