mmrfc1873 48 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.I mean I'd rather we stopped singing itI understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't That is still telling people what to do like a dictator. Can you read at all ?. He's not telling anybody what to do.Can you not read he was just telling people what to do in a different polite manor if you can't see that we don't have much hope for you. Where has he told anybody what to do ?, he gave his opinion, your intelligence level is worrying . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.I mean I'd rather we stopped singing itI understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't That is still telling people what to do like a dictator. Can you read at all ?. He's not telling anybody what to do.It's hard to read things when he edits his posts after people have replied to them.I was editing a very obvious typo - maybe if you weren't so pedantic as to jump on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beret 29 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING ITbe your own man stand up for your right to sing it and belt it out loud as you canThis sort of thing annoys me - Agenda against all things Rangers??? That is pompous tripewhat part annoys you; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can belt out all sorts of FOLK SONGS without a by your leave from the media; POMPOUS; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can produce a shirt commemorating the famine yet rangers produce a orange shirt and again were bigots; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can parade a republican band round their shanty town; get the wolftones [ who regularly appear at IRA events ] to sing at their hovel; REFUSE point blank to fly the national flag at the same place; yet INSULT the spanish nation by flying catalan flags when playing barca in a CL game;we can go on and on with these ones;pompous tripeare you looking in the mirror while typing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 No lets not go to plain lies you changed the word "I" to the word "we", no spelling mistake, I wish I had quoted it now and you wouldnt be able to wriggle out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Where have I disagreed with Murray's account of Celtics origins? He is pretty much spot-on in his accountI'm not referring to you in my last statement but others on this threadhttp://forum.rangers...st&p=1058047462Which part of my statement is innacurate or differs to Murrays?[/quoThat's self evident.One paints a romantic picture without full context, and the other removes the romanticism and gives a more catholic (pardon the pun) view But they were a club founded for Irish Catholics - which part of that is wrong??I admit it's boiled down, that is why I said I simplified itIf you think I am going to waste any more time on the semantics of this you're barking up the wrong tree. People can see your posts, but if anyone has jumped by the first few pages I'll refresh your memory.This is what you said"Like it or not they were founded to help poor Irish Catholic immigrants and I am sure most Celtic fans are proud of this" That statement is romantic codswallop, and Murray's account paints a completely different picture. You know it and I know it.So does everyone else.If you wish to go round in circles on this point, feel free.I'll let everyone else draw their own conclusions.Now, TBB.Did you sing the song before it was "banned"?Again, which part is innacurate? - OK, yes it's pretty simplified (not romantic). I have already stated I agree with Murrays point, I only left that part out of what I said because I didn't feel it was relevant. I was asked what Celtics traditions are and I gave the best answer I could considering who I was talking toAnd yes, I sang the TBB before it was banned but haven't sung it since I was teenager - Long before the 'ban' came in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 No lets not go to plain lies you changed the word "I" to the word "we", no spelling mistake, I wish I had quoted it now and you wouldnt be able to wriggle out of it.I added the word 'us' in because I left it out by mistake - I was clearly talking about Rangers fans and not myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING ITbe your own man stand up for your right to sing it and belt it out loud as you canThis sort of thing annoys me - Agenda against all things Rangers??? That is pompous tripewhat part annoys you; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can belt out all sorts of FOLK SONGS without a by your leave from the media; POMPOUS; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can produce a shirt commemorating the famine yet rangers produce a orange shirt and again were bigots; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can parade a republican band round their shanty town; get the wolftones [ who regularly appear at IRA events ] to sing at their hovel; REFUSE point blank to fly the national flag at the same place; yet INSULT the spanish nation by flying catalan flags when playing barca in a CL game;we can go on and on with these ones;pompous tripeare you looking in the mirror while typingYou're saying that anyone who doesn't sing TBB has an agenda against all things RangersThis is not true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beret 29 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I will break it down quite easily.The way i see it the ones who want to continue singing the Billy Boys are the ones who don't believe the media,who don't read the papers and who won't bow to Roman influence.The ones who want to stop singing it are easily led by the club and the media. The "Chamberlains" of the support as i call them.If the club asked them to stop wearing blue to a match as it might offend i have no doubt the vast majority of the "Chamberlains" would do it.Some are sheep in life and some are able to think for themselves and see the bigger picture.I want us to stop singing it and I dont believe anything I read in Newspapers - on the rare occasion I actually buy one and read the Sport sectionPeople aren't that easily defined - it's not black and white when it comes to this argumentYes they are.You either have the balls to sing it or you don't.You want it stopped presumably because you think it's Sectarian.What we'll never know is whether you formed that opinion based on the media and their relentless crusade against us or of your own accord for reasons i will never understand nor agree with.I formed my opinion all on my lonesome I'd just rather sing about Rangers - I have absolutely no desire to sing about 'F*nians'but F*nians sing songs about F*nians so what;s the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beret 29 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING ITbe your own man stand up for your right to sing it and belt it out loud as you canThis sort of thing annoys me - Agenda against all things Rangers??? That is pompous tripewhat part annoys you; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can belt out all sorts of FOLK SONGS without a by your leave from the media; POMPOUS; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can produce a shirt commemorating the famine yet rangers produce a orange shirt and again were bigots; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can parade a republican band round their shanty town; get the wolftones [ who regularly appear at IRA events ] to sing at their hovel; REFUSE point blank to fly the national flag at the same place; yet INSULT the spanish nation by flying catalan flags when playing barca in a CL game;we can go on and on with these ones;pompous tripeare you looking in the mirror while typingYou're saying that anyone who doesn't sing TBB has an agenda against all things RangersThis is not trueim saying that anyone who trys to get it banned has an agenda against rangersthat is true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebratingIt is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster Paramilitarys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING ITbe your own man stand up for your right to sing it and belt it out loud as you canThis sort of thing annoys me - Agenda against all things Rangers??? That is pompous tripewhat part annoys you; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can belt out all sorts of FOLK SONGS without a by your leave from the media; POMPOUS; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can produce a shirt commemorating the famine yet rangers produce a orange shirt and again were bigots; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can parade a republican band round their shanty town; get the wolftones [ who regularly appear at IRA events ] to sing at their hovel; REFUSE point blank to fly the national flag at the same place; yet INSULT the spanish nation by flying catalan flags when playing barca in a CL game;we can go on and on with these ones;pompous tripeare you looking in the mirror while typingYou're saying that anyone who doesn't sing TBB has an agenda against all things RangersThis is not trueim saying that anyone who trys to get it banned has an agenda against rangersthat is true'simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING IT' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I will break it down quite easily.The way i see it the ones who want to continue singing the Billy Boys are the ones who don't believe the media,who don't read the papers and who won't bow to Roman influence.The ones who want to stop singing it are easily led by the club and the media. The "Chamberlains" of the support as i call them.If the club asked them to stop wearing blue to a match as it might offend i have no doubt the vast majority of the "Chamberlains" would do it.Some are sheep in life and some are able to think for themselves and see the bigger picture.I want us to stop singing it and I dont believe anything I read in Newspapers - on the rare occasion I actually buy one and read the Sport sectionPeople aren't that easily defined - it's not black and white when it comes to this argumentYes they are.You either have the balls to sing it or you don't.You want it stopped presumably because you think it's Sectarian.What we'll never know is whether you formed that opinion based on the media and their relentless crusade against us or of your own accord for reasons i will never understand nor agree with.I formed my opinion all on my lonesome I'd just rather sing about Rangers - I have absolutely no desire to sing about 'F*nians'but F*nians sing songs about F*nians so what;s the problemWhat's that got to do with us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonOwilliam 0 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I will break it down quite easily.The way i see it the ones who want to continue singing the Billy Boys are the ones who don't believe the media,who don't read the papers and who won't bow to Roman influence.The ones who want to stop singing it are easily led by the club and the media. The "Chamberlains" of the support as i call them.If the club asked them to stop wearing blue to a match as it might offend i have no doubt the vast majority of the "Chamberlains" would do it.Some are sheep in life and some are able to think for themselves and see the bigger picture.I want us to stop singing it and I dont believe anything I read in Newspapers - on the rare occasion I actually buy one and read the Sport sectionPeople aren't that easily defined - it's not black and white when it comes to this argumentYes they are.You either have the balls to sing it or you don't.You want it stopped presumably because you think it's Sectarian.What we'll never know is whether you formed that opinion based on the media and their relentless crusade against us or of your own accord for reasons i will never understand nor agree with.I formed my opinion all on my lonesome I'd just rather sing about Rangers - I have absolutely no desire to sing about 'F*nians'but F*nians sing songs about F*nians so what;s the problemI wonder what Travelings perception of the word F*nian means to him he hasn't clearly stated that yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I will break it down quite easily.The way i see it the ones who want to continue singing the Billy Boys are the ones who don't believe the media,who don't read the papers and who won't bow to Roman influence.The ones who want to stop singing it are easily led by the club and the media. The "Chamberlains" of the support as i call them.If the club asked them to stop wearing blue to a match as it might offend i have no doubt the vast majority of the "Chamberlains" would do it.Some are sheep in life and some are able to think for themselves and see the bigger picture.I want us to stop singing it and I dont believe anything I read in Newspapers - on the rare occasion I actually buy one and read the Sport sectionPeople aren't that easily defined - it's not black and white when it comes to this argumentYes they are.You either have the balls to sing it or you don't.You want it stopped presumably because you think it's Sectarian.What we'll never know is whether you formed that opinion based on the media and their relentless crusade against us or of your own accord for reasons i will never understand nor agree with.I formed my opinion all on my lonesome I'd just rather sing about Rangers - I have absolutely no desire to sing about 'F*nians'but F*nians sing songs about F*nians so what;s the problemI wonder what Travelings perception of the word F*nian means to him he hasn't clearly stated that yet.As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonOwilliam 0 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebratingIt is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster ParamilitarysEmtpy headed Bigotry again i will ask you what is bigot because it's obvious that you only use that word against Rangers fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beret 29 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING ITbe your own man stand up for your right to sing it and belt it out loud as you canThis sort of thing annoys me - Agenda against all things Rangers??? That is pompous tripewhat part annoys you; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can belt out all sorts of FOLK SONGS without a by your leave from the media; POMPOUS; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can produce a shirt commemorating the famine yet rangers produce a orange shirt and again were bigots; the fact that glasgow's lesser club can parade a republican band round their shanty town; get the wolftones [ who regularly appear at IRA events ] to sing at their hovel; REFUSE point blank to fly the national flag at the same place; yet INSULT the spanish nation by flying catalan flags when playing barca in a CL game;we can go on and on with these ones;pompous tripeare you looking in the mirror while typingYou're saying that anyone who doesn't sing TBB has an agenda against all things RangersThis is not trueim saying that anyone who tries to get it banned has an agenda against rangersthat is true'simple answer be a puppet of the people with an agenda against all things rangers and DONT SING IT'then should we stop homecoming parades for the troops be puppets of the muslim extremists and dont paradewhere will the appeasement endmaybe rangers should just play in yellow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonOwilliam 0 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movementSo then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebratingIt is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster ParamilitarysEmtpy headed Bigotry again i will ask you what is bigot because it's obvious that you only use that word against Rangers fans?No, Celtic have plenty of Bigots - as have we, something you cant seem to accept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movementSo then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?Where did THAT come from??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonOwilliam 0 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movementSo then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?Where did THAT come from???You said it not meIf i recall you wouldn't sing anything with the word F*nian in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrfc1873 48 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movementSo then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?Where did THAT come from???You said it not meIf i recall you wouldn't sing anything with the word F*nian in it.He mentioned nothing about having sympathy for the Republican movement, more shite talk . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movementSo then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?Where did THAT come from???You said it not meIf i recall you wouldn't sing anything with the word F*nian in it.No I dont have sympathy for themI believe we live in a democracy and the majority of Northern Ireland want to stay part of the UK so that's the way it should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonOwilliam 0 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebratingIt is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster ParamilitarysEmtpy headed Bigotry again i will ask you what is bigot because it's obvious that you only use that word against Rangers fans?No, Celtic have plenty of Bigots - as have we, something you cant seem to acceptIf you only think that thats being a bigot then i think you need to open your eyes mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebratingIt is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster ParamilitarysEmtpy headed Bigotry again i will ask you what is bigot because it's obvious that you only use that word against Rangers fans?No, Celtic have plenty of Bigots - as have we, something you cant seem to acceptIf you only think that thats being a bigot then i think you need to open your eyes mate?Sorry, you've lost me here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beret 29 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 the thing is I WILL BE SINGING IT this year along with thousands of othersif the powers that be want it to stop then either all fans cease with such songs or noneif you dont want to sing it dont; but dont ask me or others to stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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