Bobby83 0 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Gutted for the kid. Must feel completely hopeless when Smith will shoe horn a player into a unfamiliar position in order to avoid playing a youth. When McCulloch is back he has next to no chance. Actually no chance.Hes going to stagnate atleast until Smith leaves, i'd like to see him getting a game elsewhere until then. He is too old for the u19s and with the reserves finished it frustrating that the guy's chance at a career at this level has gone to waste like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 We can't afford to send players out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Get set for the IWWT posts, mate.This is nothing new, and Smith won't be changing now. It's now just a case of seeing out this year and hoping that McCoist doesn't follow in his footsteps, although I'm not too confident, looking at the Broadfoot and McCulloch extensions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 think ness must be injured hasnt featured in the last 4 pools Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby83 0 Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 We can't afford to send players out on loan.But if hea going to get about an hour of game time over the entire season (if that) then whats the point in him being here. He'll be 20 this season. Its ridiculous. I don't expect Fleck to get a proper run out when he comes back either.Get set for the IWWT posts, mate.This is nothing new, and Smith won't be changing now. It's now just a case of seeing out this year and hoping that McCoist doesn't follow in his footsteps, although I'm not too confident, looking at the Broadfoot and McCulloch extensions.Yep. Real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 It's now just a case of seeing out this year Naismith got his chance today and was MOTMWhats the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo 1,473 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Naismith got his chance today and was MOTMWhats the problem?And let's just forget that Kyle Hutton was playing too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose4life 5 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 We can't afford to send players out on loan.Actually Muff, but if he is going to sit on the bench or not even in the team for most of this season then its better to send him out. I'd rather him go somewhere else till January atleast and see how things are going then. We can also recall anytime if we need (can stipulate that to the team who want him on loan, ie first div team or summit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Naismith got his chance today and was MOTMWhats the problem?Smith's constant need to stick to a certain group of players, and play them out of position. If there are players at the club who are not considered good enough to step in at the age of 19 or 20, they may as well let them go. They need to play to get experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1bertzTheOriginal 0 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Naismith got his chance today and was MOTMWhats the problem?The problem is what happens when McCulloch is back...Any bets that McCulloch and Edu will again be the preferred midfield 2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboy 0 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Why should he go on loan,he,s ready for the first team here,just let the boy play Walter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 hate these threads, we have played one game, thats all one game and they come out in attack of walter and his tactics, subs, whos on the bench, whose out of position, give it a rest ffs and let the season get underway before you all start yer pish about the forementioned :sleep1: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 We had Jordan McMillan, a player who is comfortable playing CM, on the bench while Jamie Ness who is a CM was not even in the squad.If the youth players are going to get a chance then Walter Smith has to stop this idea of shoving first team regulars out of position to plug gaps. If we have a youth player who is comfortable in the position that needs filled then give him a chance rather than playing Steven Naismith at CM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I'm more concerned about Naismith being one of our four first choice central midfielders alonside Lee Legend, Edu and Davis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Ness is injured I believe. That would certainly account for the fact he's not been in any squad at any level for a while now. But hey, lets through abuse at Walter anyway.Make it Shinnie then. The point is still valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,625 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I can see the need to nitpick when we lose but yesterday we were comfortable and never looked like losing even young Hutton got a wee shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Make it Shinnie then. The point is still valid.what is valid, do you mean it gives you grounds to have a go at walter for whatever reason, even though we are one game into the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I can see the need to nitpick when we lose but yesterday we were comfortable and never looked like losing even young Hutton got a wee shift. (tu) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_glasgow 2 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Ness not abit injury prone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I can see the need to nitpick when we lose but yesterday we were comfortable and never looked like losing even young Hutton got a wee shift.I call it a big club mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 277 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 You'd think every youth player we have is a wonderkid the way some people go onAll for giving them a crack but how many of the people on here who are biggin them up have actually seen enough of these boys to form such an opinion (I know some of you have but to the rest I am not sure the RTV highlights every now and then qualify ye as a master tactician)Would you rather go to the very difficult Easter Road wi Big Lee patrolling the centre or Jamie Ness? Answer honestly now.You'd genuinely think our senior players were all failures instead of battle hardened pro's who have delivered 2IAR when every T*rrier apologist and their dog has done there damndest to undermine them. These guys stood shoulder to shoulder for the Rangers. Again, again and again.These guys have earned their place and until they start losing on a regular basis (something they seem to be rather adept at NOT doing) then a touch of reality wouldn't go amiss.Sorry for the rant but sometimes we are way too hard on the guys who've done NOTHING wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Just leave all the experienced players out who have got us two in a row. And put the young ones in! See where we finish. Fux sake we win. wait till we lose a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I don't think people are moaning about Naismith's performance yesterday, they'd be stupid to do that.I think people have the issue over the pre-season boastings from the management team about how youth would get a chance and play a big part, yet as soon as a space becomes available for one of our better young players like Ness, Shinnie or McMillan, it's filled by a player who isn't quite good enough to be an out and out striker or winger.Did anyone ever see Naismith near central midfield before last season? I know I didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,880 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I don't think people are moaning about Naismith's performance yesterday, they'd be stupid to do that.I think people have the issue over the pre-season boastings from the management team about how youth would get a chance and play a big part, yet as soon as a space becomes available for one of our better young players like Ness, Shinnie or McMillan, it's filled by a player who isn't quite good enough to be an out and out striker or winger.Did anyone ever see Naismith near central midfield before last season? I know I didn't.He has played in CM before for us, not from the start but later in the game, im positive, 100% positive that he was put in the centre in a game, possibly against hearts... it was at ibrox im sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 4,209 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I think Ness could do with a loan spell somewhere, purely to get experience at this level. If we can bring in a few more players then I don't think it would be a bad thing to send him out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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