BeautifulSeas 10 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 You say Naismith is performing beyond what you think he is capable of, yet you want to drop him?That's my point. I find it hard to believe that in the "next game" he will continue to perform to that level. With Lafferty, I just see some of the things he does and think "wow, that's skilful, but why the fuck don't you do it more consistently". He frustrates the hell out of me, but I see a player in there somewhere.With Naisy, maybe he is suffering (as many players have in recent years have) from not having a run in one position to make a real stand for that position. I mean where is he trying to get in nowadays?? Up front? Left mid? Right mid? Centre mid? Yes he has performed well in most of those but as he isn't playing in them on a consistent basis, he isn't staking a claim for any of them, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H72 265 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I don't expect him to start in any of those games tbhWhilst he'll not be as ostracised as Aaron Niguez, i reckon he'll feature much like Novo did (about 15 starts plus about 25 sub appearances)I think he's got more of a chance starting in Europe than against Celtic away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Tough? Is it fuck. Naismith (despite the fact he shouldn't be playing on the wing either) is far better out on the wing than Lafferty. Lafferty should not play on the wing at all and should only be used upfront. £4 million for a 4th choice striker is fucking ridiculous, but meh, he can't play anywhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,394 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 He is no longer a hot prospect in Scottish football. Unfortunate injury problems are the cause of this, and its fair to say he's performing above his level in the aspect that he hasn't had a run of form as good as this as of now. If he keeps up his performances, then finally he's reached his potential. Walter can't just play him based on opinions of other managers, he's the one who sees him in training everyday.Lafferty is one of the most inconsistent Rangers players I've ever seen, not to mention his attitude, but for now I'd play him ahead of Naismith.How is he performing above his level? You said he has had injuries which have stopped his progress thus resulting in him not reaching his true potential. Now he is reaching a great level of performance and playing injury free, people are saying he is performing above his level? You are all off your head. I can't honestly believe people would pick Lafferty ahead of Naismith after the level Naisy has been performing at. He is not outdoing himself, he is simply finally playing at the level we believed he could when we bought him.Anyway at Rangers all players should be making the effort to perform above their so called "level". Lafferty doesn't do this and to be honest it really shouldn't be hard for him to perform above his level of ability, which in my opinion is very low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 They'll both start pretty often, Weiss isn't a guaranteed starter.I have absolutely no idea why, but Walter looks as if he's signalled his intentions early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I really can't understand why Weiss may not be given a chance, from what i've seen he's a hard working player who tracks backs at times which fits the criteria of what Walter is apparently wanting from his players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I really feel that Naismith and Lafferty are in the main both headless chicken types. Lafferty every now and again produces a goal or something, whereas Naismith to me very seldom has any end product. I would have both generally on the bench. I would start Weiss before them, still to see Kerkar, or give Wylde a shot.We simply cannot rely on either of them although we get an odd flash once in a while. Both give the ball away. Neither can tackle. Both fall over. Naismith can head a ball better than Lafferty. Naismith lacks pace too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrfc1873 48 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Naismith over Lafferty every day of the week for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Give me Steven Naismith any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H72 265 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 After that performance, I'll have Naismith over Lafferty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 To the OP.You always play your players that are on form. Naismith is. And who's to say that his level is not where it should be? If he is capable of playing at his curren level, the he is clearly capable no? Weak argument for Lafferty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleteduser1 169 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Naismith for me by a distance. I honestly think he has more to offer than KL and given a decent amount of first team action I think he can become a key player in the team.Someone made a good point in regards to KL. Kyle doesn't seem to have the football brain required to play at a massive club like The Rangers. I hope he goes on to prove me wrong btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laldo 4 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 naismith all day long! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,225 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I really feel that Naismith and Lafferty are in the main both headless chicken types. Lafferty every now and again produces a goal or something, whereas Naismith to me very seldom has any end product. I would have both generally on the bench. I would start Weiss before them, still to see Kerkar, or give Wylde a shot.We simply cannot rely on either of them although we get an odd flash once in a while. Both give the ball away. Neither can tackle. Both fall over. Naismith can head a ball better than Lafferty. Naismith lacks pace too.Great analysis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Kyle Lafferty should be nowhere near ther Rangers team. Steven Naismith has performed this season, so should be ahead of Lafferty every day of the week.No doubt Lafferty will start at Pittodrie next weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulSeas 10 Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 What a ridiculous way to manage a player that would be! How can you drop him based on a performance he hasn't put in, in a game that hasn't been played?!That's why I'm not Manager In all seriousness, it wouldn't be dropping for a performance that he hasn't yet put in, it would be dropping him because I think there are better players at the club for left midfield (and right midfield, centre midfield and up front for that matter - all of the positions he has played in), despite the fact he has performed well in most of those. I know it probably won't happen, not under WS anyway or with financial restrictions, but he needs to try and establish himself in one position and make it his own, not fitting in anywhere. If that continues, I can never see him being more than a squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 623 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Question isn't tough for me , naismith has been excellent this season so far Lafferty shouldn't be a starter in any position for rangers imo he would just make the bench , and I would rather give somebody like hemmings (sp) a chance ahead of him up front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demise 3,516 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I would have Steven Naismith any day of the week. Lafferty isnt consistant enough to deserve a start as left winger, never mind striker. He should be used as a sub, in fact i would rather have Wylde than Lafferty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,482 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I don't think naisys overperforming, I think he's improving as a player and would defo be picked before lafferty for me but think he's more a right winger and not sure how he'd do on the left, hopefully kerkar is good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,631 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Besides Kenny Miller, Steven Naismith has been our best player this season.Dropping him for Kyle lafferty would be crazy. Not only has Naismith been better this season, but he is a better footballer than Kyle Lafferty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 It's a no brainer if you're picking between those two. Naismith overall hasn't been brilliant throughout his Rangers career so far for whatever reasons, but unlike Lafferty he clearly has ability and he's started this season well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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