bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Is there no end to the continued rise from the ashes (alleged) of the Mint, from being an irrelevance, shares worth £1, having no say in anything, being under the remit of his bankers, you have to wonder if it was all a bad dream, fueled by daft daryll and assorted clueless hacks. More importantly, what does this all mean for Rangers as a club, and ourselves as fans, is it now really until "death us do part".http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/corporate-sme/murray-s-huge-office-project-for-london-site-1.1056468 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose4life 5 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 whether you like him or hate him, without his cash, we would not have done 9 in a row, nor brought in those high profile players we had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 whether you like him or hate him, without his cash, we would not have done 9 in a row, nor brought in those high profile players we hadIt wasn't his cash, it was borrowed. We are seeing the repercusions of borrowing so much cash now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 He was at Ibrox last night for the first time in a long while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 The question is, will he return to take public command on the bridge, and confound everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 104,290 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 He was at Ibrox last night for the first time in a long while.Just a coincidence that last night we knew there wouldnt be a full house Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 News of his death was much exaggerated!TBH even if you had the money who the fk would want to be a club owner!No matter what you do you are critisised for it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 Just a coincidence that last night we knew there wouldnt be a full house Coincidence and Murray are not two words that you see in the same sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Irrespective of what SDM's companies do or don't do, what puzzles me is the hardball that the banks have been playing with us, there must be some underlying agenda which hopefully now has been resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 whether you like him or hate him, without his cash, we would not have done 9 in a row, nor brought in those high profile players we hadoh my godwhen murray arrived we were top of the league the likes of butcher walters and woods were there already.the money came from the rangers fans me and you not murray. the audited accounts of rangers have never ever shown him putting cash in. with one exception when dave king made him put money in and he got shares for that. same as when he bought us and same as when he put in 50 million to get us out of the 85 million in debt he got us into. its all take take take with murray no give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 Irrespective of what SDM's companies do or don't do, what puzzles me is the hardball that the banks have been playing with us, there must be some underlying agenda which hopefully now has been resolved.I would suggest it has everything to do with how the Mint's companies perform, we as a club are a mere rich man's plaything for our glorious leader.Despite acres of paper and wasted ink, plus bandwidth, there is not one iota of evidence that the bank played hardball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Is there no end to the continued rise from the ashes (alleged) of the Mint, from being an irrelevance, shares worth £1, having no say in anything, being under the remit of his bankers, you have to wonder if it was all a bad dream, fueled by daft daryll and assorted clueless hacks. More importantly, what does this all mean for Rangers as a club, and ourselves as fans, is it now really until "death us do part".http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/corporate-sme/murray-s-huge-office-project-for-london-site-1.1056468murray admitted his company was vunerable to going bust around last october. but the bank has to mauch invested in it to let it happen so they swapped debt for equity meaning they have even more invested now. any new projects his company do will be approved by the banks as an acceptable risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I would suggest it has everything to do with how the Mint's companies perform, we as a club are a mere rich man's plaything for our glorious leader.Despite acres of paper and wasted ink, plus bandwidth, there is not one iota of evidence that the bank played hardball.other than the wage bill being halfed directors confirming it in the papers dave kingthe sale of arrounf 20 players before any were bought. you mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 murray admitted his company was vunerable to going bust around last october. but the bank has to mauch invested in it to let it happen so they swapped debt for equity meaning they have even more invested now. any new projects his company do will be approved by the banks as an acceptable risk.You appear to lack the basic understanding of why banks do not run companies, or interfere in their day to day running, that falls to appointed receivers, by a bank or some other empowered body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Irrespective of what SDM's companies do or don't do, what puzzles me is the hardball that the banks have been playing with us, there must be some underlying agenda which hopefully now has been resolved.I think you are going to find a lot more revealing titbits coming out very shortly about Lloyds "bankers"And as for Murray.....the sooner that charlatan is away from Rangers the better.Shit hits the fan and he goes in to hiding leaving Johnston and Bain to deal with the shit.Now that things appear to be getting better he makes an appearance.Where was the leadership and the communication with the Rangers family when the problems were mounting up?I for one will toast his departure in champagne and a renewed willingness to invest in Rangers FC but not until he is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 oh my godwhen murray arrived we were top of the league the likes of butcher walters and woods were there already.the money came from the rangers fans me and you not murray. the audited accounts of rangers have never ever shown him putting cash in. with one exception when dave king made him put money in and he got shares for that. same as when he bought us and same as when he put in 50 million to get us out of the 85 million in debt he got us into. its all take take take with murray no give.You must not have read too closely.... you missed ten million at least.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbaggery 0 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 I've heard that one of the bankers playing hardball with Rangers, was once a member of the Celtic supporters Trust. That's right, the same Trust that Janet Findlay, the woman presented with an award by Sinn Fein for services to Republicanism and an ex lord Provost, granny basher and house breaker - Alex Mossen, belong to.Makes you wonder about the reasons for the bankers behaviour right enough.Not if you stick to known facts and trust that the Chairman's statements on the matter are factual. The shitterdome is the place for paranoia and conspiracy theories, we are above that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,082 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I've heard that one of the bankers playing hardball with Rangers, was once a member of the Celtic supporters Trust. That's right, the same Trust that Janet Findlay, the woman presented with an award by Sinn Fein for services to Republicanism and an ex lord Provost, granny basher and house breaker - Alex Mossen, belong to.Makes you wonder about the reasons for the bankers behaviour right enough.Janet Findlay should be fucked up her arse by a flag pole...the 8 inch wide 6 foot long wans...fuckin rabid Republican slag.Mosson's a prick too...Sorry about that but have a bit of built up agression everytime i see that name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Not if you stick to known facts and trust that the Chairman's statements on the matter are factual. The shitterdome is the place for paranoia and conspiracy theories, we are above that. We'll soon see who is quoting facts soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 We'll soon see who is quoting facts soon enough.I agree My original post was just a wee stirrer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 whether you like him or hate him, without his cash, we would not have done 9 in a row, nor brought in those high profile players we had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 oh my godwhen murray arrived we were top of the league the likes of butcher walters and woods were there already.the money came from the rangers fans me and you not murray. the audited accounts of rangers have never ever shown him putting cash in. with one exception when dave king made him put money in and he got shares for that. same as when he bought us and same as when he put in 50 million to get us out of the 85 million in debt he got us into. its all take take take with murray no give.Apart from the Money he put in (at leats £50M even in your own statement) - its all take with Murray!Close to the most confused statement I have read on here - made me laugh out loud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 whether you like him or hate him, without his cash, we would not have done 9 in a row, nor brought in those high profile players we hadLOL is this a wind up? , What cash of Murrays did he put into Rangers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 You appear to lack the basic understanding of why banks do not run companies, or interfere in their day to day running, that falls to appointed receivers, by a bank or some other empowered body.your funny not a clue but not afraid to accuse me of basic understanding.receivers are for bankrupt companies. i dont know if you are david murray or one of his sons but much as mih has appointed people on RFC board because they owna big part of it lloyds who 25% nearly of mih have people in place to look after their interests. all of what i say is a matter of public record its not made up fantasy like your stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Apart from the Money he put in (at leats £50M even in your own statement) - its all take with Murray!Close to the most confused statement I have read on here - made me laugh out loudhe got shares for that money. i dont know if you are a share holder or not but murray certainly made me poorer when he bought those shares as he did with all other share holders appart from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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