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Is it OK to now mention the McCulloch & Edu partnership?

1st_Jan_1994

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1st_Jan_1994

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This is not an "I told you so" thread. Please don't anyone think that.

But a couple of people shot me down in flames for my thread the other day, after watching them against St Mirren and saying prevention is better than cure, as we could come a major cropper with them.

I got told to shut up because we won etc. Am I allowed to make the same point tonight?

The game was lost before Edu chucked it and got injured and I blame him personally for for the second goal. He just let the ball roll past him when he could have stuck a leg out or at the very least slid it. It was like slow motion.

I'm not picking on anyone in particular, just re-emphasising that if a team starts well against us with this formation it can be the undoing of us.

But tonight every single player had an off night. Everyone. Weiss gets the best of a bad bunch award when he came on.

Said about Lafferty either yesterday or today that he's like Novo. When you start him he does nothing but bring him on as a sub and his fresh legs cause loads of problems.

The only saving grace is that there's no gloating t*rriers, because we played the worst we have tonight in years and we are still top of the league - so fuck them.

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Amac9

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The Edu-McCulloch partnership has never worked. They don't get on the ball enough, don't dictate play, fail to dominate the midfield, get caught out of position, let people run off them and offer nothing going forward.

Lee McCulloch has not turned up for weeks now and I really do not rate Maurice Edu. I don't know how long Edu will be out for, and I hope for the sake of the squad that it is not too long, but it is time to give Kyle Hutton a chance. I'm not saying he is some saving grace, in fact I think he is a decent midfield battler but not much else, but surely he can't be any worse than McCulloch and Edu in there? You never know... Stevenm Naismith might be thrown in at CM soon.

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McCulloch is the problem, not Edu. Actually felt sorry for him trying to do the job of 2 midfielders before he got injured.

This McCulloch can do no wrong attitude is shocking, and the abuse Edu got tonight in the stands was shocking. It's not the 1st time he's been targeted for unnecessary abuse from the stands.

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I dont think they can play together in a 4. When we go 5 in Midfield in Europe they are both extremely effective.

It needs to be one or the other in the SPL.

Agree. Against good ball rentention teams in the Champions League it's ideal.

But in the SPL it offers us nothing as we are the team with the onus to go and win.

As I said before, Walter needs to make a choice and stop trying to accomodate everyone. Pick one from Edu/McCulloch, move Davis inside and get Weiss and Naismith on the wings.

It's simple.

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McCulloch is the problem, not Edu. Actually felt sorry for him trying to do the job of 2 midfielders before he got injured.

This McCulloch can do no wrong attitude is shocking, and the abuse Edu got tonight in the stands was shocking. It's not the 1st time he's been targeted for unnecessary abuse from the stands.

It's not either of their fault's really. It's just the fact they can't play together. They cancel each other out.

One of them in with Davis in the middle and we will get some tempo and flow back to our play.

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McCulloch is the problem, not Edu. Actually felt sorry for him trying to do the job of 2 midfielders before he got injured.

This McCulloch can do no wrong attitude is shocking, and the abuse Edu got tonight in the stands was shocking. It's not the 1st time he's been targeted for unnecessary abuse from the stands.

Totally agree. shocking the abuse our fans give a proper footballer, yet Lee and Dave and others get away with every misplaced pass.

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McCulloch is the problem, not Edu. Actually felt sorry for him trying to do the job of 2 midfielders before he got injured.

This McCulloch can do no wrong attitude is shocking, and the abuse Edu got tonight in the stands was shocking. It's not the 1st time he's been targeted for unnecessary abuse from the stands.

I feel the complete opposite is the problem, Edu looks lost in the middle of the park, at times he looks like a kid getting it knocked around him

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Agree 100%. I've absolutely no idea why we continue to play 2 holding midfielders. They just do not complement each other at all. Edu & McCulloch were awful tonight, but to be fair, they weren't the only ones. I really think we have to change the setup of our midfield. IMO, McCulloch and Edu are not good enough, and someone else should be given a chance. Can Hutton do the job, who knows, but maybe he should be given a chance. One more thing, put Foster in for Whittaker, words can't express how bad a fullback he is.

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It's not either of their fault's really. It's just the fact they can't play together. They cancel each other out.

One of them in with Davis in the middle and we will get some tempo and flow back to our play.

McCulloch cancels every player who plays along side him, he's so one dimensional it's not even funny anymore. In a midfield 3 you can carry him to sit and try to break up play.

In a Midfield 2, you need to be mobile and press as a unit, Edu presses out and McCulloch is always 10yards off the pace. Liam Miller tonight gave Lee McCulloch and footballing lesson in Midfield.

Davis and Edu is the partnership, McCulloch at this moment in time is bench material until Europe comes around, he's the poor man's Hemdani.

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Totally agree. shocking the abuse our fans give a proper footballer, yet Lee and Dave and others get away with every misplaced pass.

A proper footballer?

He's the absolute pits for Rangers for the bread & butter of the SPL. He goes into hiding in big games and seems allergic to a forward pass.

You could plank anyone in the midfield and get them to just pass the ball straight back to where it came from like it was a hot potato.

Good midfielders know when to take the ball in their stride and create a bit more. He never turns on the ball.

Sometimes he looks good in the tackle, though - then other times he's a shite bag.

McCulloch has been poor this season too, but last season he was outstanding so I'm more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt over Edu - who's had about half a dozen good games at the most.

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One more thing, put Foster in for Whittaker, words can't express how bad a fullback he is.

I used to always stick up for Whittaker. Always seen something there but I'm finding it impossible to justify his performances this season.

I'm more inclined to give Foster a go now.

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Edu is, and has been since he signed, bar a few good performances a complete and utter passenger within the team. He looks so lazy out there and I don't buy into this bullshit that he does unseen work. He doesn't do anything but jog half arsed around. Mcculloch has been poor so stick Davis back in and throw in Hutton too. A good option IMO.

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To me Edu just looks completely out of his depth. I think the big problem is that he's only been a professional for just over 3 years, so although he is 24, in football development terms he's really the equivalent of an 18 or 19 year old. He looks naive and inexperienced in there and although he gets about the park, tries to get forward and is dangerous in the air I dont think he's showing any real signs of improvement. Also the way he poofed out of two 50-50's tonight was a disgrace.

McCulloch lacks the positional and footballing savvy to play in the holding midfield role yet also lacks the pace and athleticism to be a box to box midfielder.

Combine them both into one player and you might eventually have an effective midfielder, however play them both together and you have an ineffective midfield.

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both players are shocking footballers, they contribute no imagination to the side whatsoever.teams move around them and they never close people down.edu got a roasting from the fans because he completely chickened out a tackle, his atitude in some games is terrible and im quite sure if hutton, ness, shinie, mcmillan etc got half the game time edu gets we would see better players

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