Boxing and MMA

[The Godfather 71,874]

Closer than I had it but clear win for Cruz

Should be a third fight hopefully in UK, needs learn how to get past his jab 

[Laudrup1984 25,100]

Fair play to Leo. Deserved win. Trilogy is a must.

[ayrshireger 523]

Judges had it by 2. Very surprising imo

 

No chance was it a draw though

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

2 very both close fights. 

[The Godfather 71,874]

Quite a scrappy fight really, I don't remember one clean shot or either fighter ever in trouble. 

[Supersonic 4,654]

Some really entertaining fights tonight (that Garcia knockout ).

 

Roll on the third fight!

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

Just now, Supersonic said:

Some really entertaining fights tonight (that Garcia knockout ).

 

Roll on the third fight!

I hope Barry has the rematch wrote into his contract, cruz does not like traveling. 

[ayrshireger 523]

Scrappy but the better man won

[KingKirk 25,633]

3rd fight at Windsor park hopefully during the summer

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

I think Cruz will not keep his word, i think he will hold onto his belt and go back to his backyard with it. 

[KingKirk 25,633]

imagine feeling you've let your kids Doon FFS head up son you've risked your life the night and got through it in one piece whilst getting well paid and that's what it's all about

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

i dont think cruz will give him the rematch in Belfast. 

[Virtuoso 27,180]

Just now, sausagetrunks said:

i dont think cruz will give him the rematch in Belfast. 

I was under the impression that tonights fight was part of a 'best of three' (simply due to numbers involved). I stand corrected on this though.

As for tonight,  I thought Frampton was very 'one dimensional'. There didn't seem to be any alternate plan in place and it was as though he was banking on luck to change things around.

Wasn't the fight I was expecting. Strange one.

[Siam69 26,874]

1 hour ago, sausagetrunks said:

I think Cruz will not keep his word, i think he will hold onto his belt and go back to his backyard with it. 

Cruz comes across as a decent guy, I'd be surprised if he didn't give Carl a 3rd, plus I think money will dictate it will happen anyway. 

Carl very gracious in defeat, saying the better man won, which he did. 

Be surprised if it's anywhere but in the States, though ...

[Da Kool Blue 139]

The problem with scoring a fight like that is the volume puncher usually gets the initiative, as they are often seen as being more effective even though the majority of the strikes were hitting gloves and arms. I wouldn't have been surprised if the decision went either way, it's really up to the judges preference. 

[Gaz52 11,837]

52 minutes ago, Da Kool Blue said:

The problem with scoring a fight like that is the volume puncher usually gets the initiative, as they are often seen as being more effective even though the majority of the strikes were hitting gloves and arms. I wouldn't have been surprised if the decision went either way, it's really up to the judges preference. 

Yeah judges will normally always favour he who dares to throw

That's the problem with counter punchers (I don't know if Frampton is never watched him) but you see split decisions all the time and the one who looked more positive usually gets it 

[The Godfather 71,874]

I really don't think that fight could have gone either way, Cruz bossed it. The judges were very generous to Carl if anything 

[Creampuff 22,628]

9 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

I really don't think that fight could have gone either way, Cruz bossed it. The judges were very generous to Carl if anything 

This. 

Frampton was just outclassed on the night.

[Da Kool Blue 139]

That Cerrone fight should never have went to the second, the guy was clearly in another world. If the ref doesn't stop it, then the UFC coaches need to drop the tough guy BS  and learn to throw in the towel for the sake of their fighter. Not surprised with the Shevchenko win, she showed that you are starting to need more than just one dimension to your fighting, you need to be training in all aspects. 

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

19 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

This. 

Frampton was just outclassed on the night.

who ever win the first two rounds controlled the fight imo. it was that close, lsc fought behind the jab, if frampton wins the first two carl could then fight of the back foot.

[Da Kool Blue 139]

No chance the third fight is in Belfast, it'll either be New York or Mexico, more than likely Mexico. 

[Vanoli 4,625]

Santa Cruz by 4. He told Frampton what he was going to do, Frampton thought he could do the exact same again and win. At this level of you stand still and don't adapt that's what happens.  

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

2 hours ago, Da Kool Blue said:

No chance the third fight is in Belfast, it'll either be New York or Mexico, more than likely Mexico. 

Would be very surprised if it was in Mexico considering he's not fought there in over 5 years.

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

59 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said:

Would be very surprised if it was in Mexico considering he's not fought there in over 5 years.

Cruz said he would fight him in Belfast, he should keep his word but i think he'll bitch out, Frampton has traveled 3 times, once to Quigg and twice for Cruz. I dont think Cruz travels to well, all he did was cry about the crowd in New york. He cant say there is not enough money in Belfast, Windsor will be sold out 30 thousand and on PPV. 

Imo Cruz will not fancy it and go back to cherry picking. 

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

1 hour ago, Vanoli said:

Santa Cruz by 4. He told Frampton what he was going to do, Frampton thought he could do the exact same again and win. At this level of you stand still and don't adapt that's what happens.  

The first two rounds in this fight was the key for me, Cruz loses them, he has to come on to framptons counter punch. Frampton lost them and cruz stayed behind the jab. There was rounds being lost in the last 10 seconds, it was that close, also i think shane was poor in his corner.