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let us look at two situations.

1 - El Hadj Diouf arrives in Scotland with a poor reputation in terms of conduct. He has been in trouble for spitting at fans and was seen to be less than sympathetic when a fellow pro was injured.

RESPONSE - The media, as one have condemned him. Every member of celtic staff, be it coaching, medical or playing have tried their best to get him riled, and the media have blamed everything on him - depite him reacting with no more than a few verbals. When Neil Lennon encroaches on the RANGERS technical area to barrack him and EHD responds he is then painted the guilty party.

2 - Craig Bellamy arrives in Scotland with a poor reputation, having been arrested for fighting, hitting women, slapping a fan in the face and hitting a teammate with a golf club.

RESPONSE - The media here said it was a terrific signing, drooling over a player of true talent would enhance the SPL. No other teams targeted him, despite his constant snarling and the media wanted him to stay after his loan was up.

There are only two differences between these two situations. One player signed for Celtic, the other Rangers. Our media assures us there is no bias against our club - so what's the other difference? The only one I can think of is skin colour. We have all heard mainstream media outlets reporting phrases like "get out of Scotland", "go back where you came from". This strikes me as very, very inappropriate language.

Can anyone else explain why he has been targeted so abhorrently, when this didn't happen to an equally dislikable character in Bellamy?

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Aye and what about Roy Keane? Hartosn aswell,he had a bit of a reputation in England. We have known for years that they were biased but this Clear proof.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I didn't hear anything negative when Keane and Bellamy signed, just that they would improve Celtic and the profile of the SPL.

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let us look at two situations.

1 - El Hadj Diouf arrives in Scotland with a poor reputation in terms of conduct. He has been in trouble for spitting at fans and was seen to be less than sympathetic when a fellow pro was injured.

RESPONSE - The media, as one have condemned him. Every member of celtic staff, be it coaching, medical or playing have tried their best to get him riled, and the media have blamed everything on him - depite him reacting with no more than a few verbals. When Neil Lennon encroaches on the RANGERS technical area to barrack him and EHD responds he is then painted the guilty party.

2 - Craig Bellamy arrives in Scotland with a poor reputation, having been arrested for fighting, hitting women, slapping a fan in the face and hitting a teammate with a golf club.

RESPONSE - The media here said it was a terrific signing, drooling over a player of true talent would enhance the SPL. No other teams targeted him, despite his constant snarling and the media wanted him to stay after his loan was up.

There are only two differences between these two situations. One player signed for Celtic, the other Rangers. Our media assures us there is no bias against our club - so what's the other difference? The only one I can think of is skin colour. We have all heard mainstream media outlets reporting phrases like "get out of Scotland", "go back where you came from". This strikes me as very, very inappropriate language.

Can anyone else explain why he has been targeted so abhorrently, when this didn't happen to an equally dislikable character in Bellamy?

Put it this way, if he'd signed for celtic it would be blatant racism, without a shadow of a doubt.

But then again, if he'd signed for celtic there'd be no abusive racist remarks anyway, as your post illustrates.

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The media in this country dont like uppity black men, regardless of whether they are a footballer or not. He has done well not to respond to the provocations he faces in every game and why shouldnt he give it back when there are those trying to rile him. But also the fact he has signed for us is another stick to beat both him, and us with. I just wish Rangers would call Mjallby out on what he said in the tunnel in relation to Diouf. Rangers and that lot are sweeping this under the carpet because they dont want to stir up even more of a shitstorm and its a scandal the media are complicit in this. I have had it from 3 sources now that Mjalby dropped the n bomb in the tunnel at half time one of whom is a catholic atheist with no interest in football who was speaking to a journalist about it yesterday. The media are sitting on this and saying nothing, would it be the same if one of our players dropped the n bomb? Look at what happened with Amo for instance and he was rightly suspended for what he said to Okocha was it? The same should apply to them but it wont because liewell and dr death and the paddy-nostra will use every trick in the book to influence the media into portraying us as the bad guys.

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:lol::lol:

Shagger & Sheen up Karbon on a thursday night :drool:

Could imagine if they were roommates on their travels with Rangers.

The cleaner is cleaning the hotel room that they have just left, open the wardrobe and finds 6 of Aberdeen's finest escorts tied up naked in it :lol:

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It's definitely not just that he signed for us either. His pariah status has always been disproportionate to his crimes and the only reason I can think of is that he's black, has gold teeth/earrings and simply does not give a fuck what people think about him. He's supposed to be friendly, contrite and oh so very grateful for our great nation giving a poor african like him a chance.

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I think he's done amazingly well with the amount of provocation and abuse he's endured since arriving here. Not many would have been able to keep their composure for as long as he did.

You can take so much before you snap.

He should be applauded.

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It's definitely not just that he signed for us either. His pariah status has always been disproportionate to his crimes and the only reason I can think of is that he's black, has gold teeth/earrings and simply does not give a fuck what people think about him. He's supposed to be friendly, contrite and oh so very grateful for our great nation giving a poor african like him a chance.

I think there is a lot in that, he is successful, flashy and of course he is black and to a lot of people in this country, they can't have that. There have been players committing far worse - or at least equally bad - things than Diouf, but they weren't back.

The guy has a past, no-one can deny that, but I'd like someone to point out to me one thing he has done since arriving in Scotland that deserves the abuse he gets?

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I think there is a lot in that, he is successful, flashy and of course he is black and to a lot of people in this country, they can't have that. There have been players committing far worse - or at least equally bad - things than Diouf, but they weren't back.

The guy has a past, no-one can deny that, but I'd like someone to point out to me one thing he has done since arriving in Scotland that deserves the abuse he gets?

Put it this way, if Roy Keane had the same personality and had done everything that Roy Keane did in his career, and he was also black, Celtic would never have signed him. Or if they did, people would have said it was a disgrace bringing him into our league and tainting or game.

Diouf is a bit of an arse, we all know this, but he's no more an arse than plenty of other players whom everyone is very happy to defend as just being a bit of a character. If anything, the extra edge to his mischief (like the shirt throwing incident at Parkhead) strikes me as a rather heroic effort on his part not to allow those who treat him unfairly to get him down. It was as if he was saying "I've been sent off, I'll get criticised and most of the people here will treat me like an animal but this small group of people here wearing blue are the only people I care about".

I find it hard not to admire him for that.

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I think there is a lot in that, he is successful, flashy and of course he is black and to a lot of people in this country, they can't have that. There have been players committing far worse - or at least equally bad - things than Diouf, but they weren't back.

The guy has a past, no-one can deny that, but I'd like someone to point out to me one thing he has done since arriving in Scotland that deserves the abuse he gets?

To the majority, he signed for us, think that covers it

Sometimes I am so grateful I moved away

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The media in this country dont like uppity black men, regardless of whether they are a footballer or not. He has done well not to respond to the provocations he faces in every game and why shouldnt he give it back when there are those trying to rile him. But also the fact he has signed for us is another stick to beat both him, and us with. I just wish Rangers would call Mjallby out on what he said in the tunnel in relation to Diouf. Rangers and that lot are sweeping this under the carpet because they dont want to stir up even more of a shitstorm and its a scandal the media are complicit in this. I have had it from 3 sources now that Mjalby dropped the n bomb in the tunnel at half time one of whom is a catholic atheist with no interest in football who was speaking to a journalist about it yesterday. The media are sitting on this and saying nothing, would it be the same if one of our players dropped the n bomb? Look at what happened with Amo for instance and he was rightly suspended for what he said to Okocha was it? The same should apply to them but it wont because liewell and dr death and the paddy-nostra will use every trick in the book to influence the media into portraying us as the bad guys.

Eh? :lol: What is a Catholic Atheist?

In reference to your "uppity black men" comment - The press loved Big Baldy, creamed all over Agathe and tried to spin to us Mo Camara was a footballer. This is not about Dioufs colour, this about who he plays for.

Your last sentence is 100% spot on.

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Eh? :lol: What is a Catholic Atheist?

In reference to your "uppity black men" comment - The press loved Big Baldy, creamed all over Agathe and tried to spin to us Mo Camara was a footballer. This is not about Dioufs colour, this about who he plays for.

As in he comes from an RC background but is anti-religion. I know full well its about who he plays for but the fact he is quite flash and has a bit of attitude about him along with his previous adds to the vitriol against him.

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Look at what happened with Amo for instance and he was rightly suspended for what he said to Okocha was it?

Victor Ikpeba when we played Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA cup.

I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post, especially regarding Dr Spin who has intentionally put the hatred back into the dumb masses across the divide. So much so that a large proportion of people do not care about anything else that goes on in the world anymore. For someone with his abhorrent past, I would say this situation is, for Doc Death, a 'result...'

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