Kyle Hutton

[OrangeBurn]

Got my tin hat on for this one.

I just don't rate the boy much. I think he is quite slow at reading the game and for a centre mid his passing isn't great, seems to lose the ball more often than not. I'd rather have Ness, Edu, McCulloch and Davis before him.

Thoughts?

[KBOO72]

I'd have him before not so super lee mcculloch every day of the week .

[OrangeBurn]

I'd have him before not so super lee mcculloch every day of the week .

Football Manager for you.

[BlueSuedeSambas]

Agreed.

He has talent and at his age he needs games but at this point there is no way he should be starting week in week out for us.

I'd like to see him loaned out next season to see if he can come on a bit.

[OrangeBurn]

Agreed.

He has talent and at his age he needs games but at this point there is no way he should be starting week in week out for us.

I'd like to see him loaned out next season to see if he can come on a bit.

I'd go with that.

League 1/Championship level in England would set him up nicely for a return. I think he has to learn his trade where the pressure of winning every game is off.

[BILL.I.AM]

Just turned 20 only played a handful of games, 2 of which were in the CL

[OrangeBurn]

Just turned 20 only played a handful of games, 2 of which were in the CL

Whats your point caller?

[Bluepeter9]

Aye - lets blood youngsters, future of the team blah blah blah - No wait lets write them off after a handful of games! FFS we should be having this conversation in 3 seasons time not after a handful of games.

[Del]

I dont see how people can see hes over-rated or under-rated either?

Hes a 20yr old kid whose only played a few games and some of them were big, big games for us and hes not looked out of place! Man Utd, Celtic, Bursasspor, as well some of our harder games in the league Dundee Utd and Aberdeen.

I dont think there will be many on here that want him to play week in week out before 1st team players, you always get some idiots like the ones that want Niguez back, but the majority wouldnt say he should start.

Ness is a good bit ahead of him, but i would like to see Hutton play more because its the best way to for him to develop. I actually think his passing is pretty good, again not as good as Ness maybe but his distibution of the ball is usually spot on.

He also runs with the ball a bit and thats something weve missed and only Davis gives us that just now.

Deinfately not over-rated though, he has loads of potential and hopefully if he keeps progressing the way he has will be around the 1st team for years to come!

[BILL.I.AM]

Whats your point caller?

It's ridiculous to judge someone so young on so little games.......

[OrangeBurn]

Why does he have to be in the Rangers team to develope? Can't we loan him out? In any of the games he has played, I dont think he has scored or made an assist. If you are saying Ness is better than him, sand Edu, McCulloch and Davis are all better than Ness, you are basically saying Hutton is the 5th best MC we have. Which I agree with.

I'm saying he is over rated, not he doesnt have potential. People think he should be in the first team, but he hasn't put in any performances which would merit a place there. He looked comfortable v Man Utd, other than that, all other games, I've personally thought he was average to poor.

Like I said, i'm not saying he doesn't have talent and potential, what i'm saying is, people seem to think he is good to be a first team player and he isn't. He isn't close to being a regular. Loan him out and next bring him back after a season on loan and we can see how he has developed.

[OrangeBurn]

It's ridiculous to judge someone so young on so little games.......

No it's not. What we have seen so far hasn't been impressive. It's been fine, average, okay. Average can't make it's way into the first team at Ibrox. Or at least it shouldn't.

[papaguy51]

He isn't 'rated' as such, no-one knows how good or bad he is because he hasn't had the chance.

[BILL.I.AM]

Where has he been over rated?

I haven't seen anyone say anything other than that he looks good and could go on to do well at Rangers or something along those lines, which IMO is true.

He has played in a holding midfield role when he has played so scoring goals or assists are irrelevant.

[AGM_72]

Why does he have to be in the Rangers team to develope? Can't we loan him out? In any of the games he has played, I dont think he has scored or made an assist. If you are saying Ness is better than him, sand Edu, McCulloch and Davis are all better than Ness, you are basically saying Hutton is the 5th best MC we have. Which I agree with.

I'm saying he is over rated, not he doesnt have potential. People think he should be in the first team, but he hasn't put in any performances which would merit a place there. He looked comfortable v Man Utd, other than that, all other games, I've personally thought he was average to poor.

Like I said, i'm not saying he doesn't have talent and potential, what i'm saying is, people seem to think he is good to be a first team player and he isn't. He isn't close to being a regular. Loan him out and next bring him back after a season on loan and we can see how he has developed.

I think a big reasoning behind that train of thought is because Maurice Edu has offered absolutely nothing in midfield for a run of games that stretches back a good month or two now(Yes he was much improved against Motherwell).

So, while McCulloch is injured/unfit, Ness is injured and we can only pick from Davis, Hutton and Edu most folk were looking at Hutton as a more useful option than Edu. Which, I tend to agree with, Hutton's never looked as much of a passenger as Edu has recently.

Ideally, in the summer we're taken over and we spend our money on enough re-inforcements to allow the lad out on loan for a season of first team football and we'll see how he develops. I think he's got potential, personally, but as far as being over-rated is concerned, I think it's just purely because he's being compared to a really underperforming Edu just now.

[OrangeBurn]

Where has he been over rated?

I haven't seen anyone say anything other than that he looks good and could go on to do well at Rangers or something along those lines, which IMO is true.

He has played in a holding midfield role when he has played so scoring goals or assists are irrelevant.

I've seen plenty of people saying that they think he should be in the team ahead of Edu and even Davis (When he was going through a sticky patch).

Nonsense. Assists and goals are always relevent. Thats like saying it's irrelevant for a Full Back or a Centre Back to score goals. They are always important.

[OrangeBurn]

I think a big reasoning behind that train of thought is because Maurice Edu has offered absolutely nothing in midfield for a run of games that stretches back a good month or two now(Yes he was much improved against Motherwell).

So, while McCulloch is injured/unfit, Ness is injured and we can only pick from Davis, Hutton and Edu most folk were looking at Hutton as a more useful option than Edu. Which, I tend to agree with, Hutton's never looked as much of a passenger as Edu has recently.

Ideally, in the summer we're taken over and we spend our money on enough re-inforcements to allow the lad out on loan for a season of first team football and we'll see how he develops. I think he's got potential, personally, but as far as being over-rated is concerned, I think it's just purely because he's being compared to a really underperforming Edu just now.

[Del]

Why does he have to be in the Rangers team to develope? Can't we loan him out? In any of the games he has played, I dont think he has scored or made an assist. If you are saying Ness is better than him, sand Edu, McCulloch and Davis are all better than Ness, you are basically saying Hutton is the 5th best MC we have. Which I agree with.

I'm saying he is over rated, not he doesnt have potential. People think he should be in the first team, but he hasn't put in any performances which would merit a place there. He looked comfortable v Man Utd, other than that, all other games, I've personally thought he was average to poor.

Like I said, i'm not saying he doesn't have talent and potential, what i'm saying is, people seem to think he is good to be a first team player and he isn't. He isn't close to being a regular. Loan him out and next bring him back after a season on loan and we can see how he has developed.

So what your saying is that because some people say he should be in and around the 1st team that makes him over-rated?

I wouldnt send any of our players out on loan tbh, how many have actually came back and made it to the 1st team? The only two i can think of are McGregor and Adam and even at that Adam was hounded out!

5th choice quickly becomes 2nd or 3rd with injuries and suspensions and as you said he looked good against Man Utd, aye it was only one game, but hes not going to get a game as hard as that in the SPL is he?

[Del]

He isn't 'rated' as such, no-one knows how good or bad he is because he hasn't had the chance.

[BlueSuedeSambas]

Where has he been over rated?

People have posted saying that he should be starting games ahead of McCulloch, Ness & Edu.

In the same way that people shouldnt be writing him off after a handful of games, how can people be saying that he should be a first pick ahead of eathablisbed first team players after a handful of games?

[BILL.I.AM]

I've seen plenty of people saying that they think he should be in the team ahead of Edu and even Davis (When he was going through a sticky patch).

Nonsense. Assists and goals are always relevent. Thats like saying it's irrelevant for a Full Back or a Centre Back to score goals. They are always important.

Well he should be playing infront of Edu no doubt about that. Every fit midfielder should be getting a game before him unless his Motherwell performance is the standard he is going to play at consistently.

Of course goals are important from every position but rating a holding midfielder on goals and assists is irrelevant. It's a bonus for him to chip in with a goal or 2 not a priority.

[Del]

I think a big reasoning behind that train of thought is because Maurice Edu has offered absolutely nothing in midfield for a run of games that stretches back a good month or two now(Yes he was much improved against Motherwell).

So, while McCulloch is injured/unfit, Ness is injured and we can only pick from Davis, Hutton and Edu most folk were looking at Hutton as a more useful option than Edu. Which, I tend to agree with, Hutton's never looked as much of a passenger as Edu has recently.

.Ideally, in the summer we're taken over and we spend our money on enough re-inforcements to allow the lad out on loan for a season of first team football and we'll see how he develops I think he's got potential, personally, but as far as being over-rated is concerned, I think it's just purely because he's being compared to a really underperforming Edu just now.

So you want to spend what little money we are going to get buying central midfielders we really dont need, when we dont have a defense any wide men and only Lafferty and Jelvaic upfront?

Dont see the point in that to be honest!

[BILL.I.AM]

People have posted saying that he should be starting games ahead of McCulloch, Ness & Edu.

In the same way that people shouldnt be writing him off after a handful of games, how can people be saying that he should be a first pick ahead of eathablisbed first team players after a handful of games?

Haven't read that apart from Edu.

Ness is the better player of the 2. Mcculloch should start before all 3.

...IMO

[OrangeBurn]

So what your saying is that because some people say he should be in and around the 1st team that makes him over-rated?

I wouldnt send any of our players out on loan tbh, how many have actually came back and made it to the 1st team? The only two i can think of are McGregor and Adam and even at that Adam was hounded out!

5th choice quickly becomes 2nd or 3rd with injuries and suspensions and as you said he looked good against Man Utd, aye it was only one game, but hes not going to get a game as hard as that in the SPL is he?

What i'm saying is, people seem to think he is a better player than Edu. He isn't.

Well, if they aren't good enough to go out on loan and come back and be a first team player, why do they deserve to be in the first team at all? I mean if they cant make it on loan to a lesser team, how could he make it at Rangers.

No, he wont, but if he can play a good game against Man Utd, why hasn't he looked good in any of his other games against shitter teams?

What i'm saying is he has potential and some talent, but not as much as I think people think he has. I don't think he will make it at Ibrox long term especially if he doesn;t go and get first team games somewhere.

[OrangeBurn]

Well he should be playing infront of Edu no doubt about that. Every fit midfielder should be getting a game before him unless his Motherwell performance is the standard he is going to play at consistently.

Of course goals are important from every position but rating a holding midfielder on goals and assists is irrelevant. It's a bonus for him to chip in with a goal or 2 not a priority.

Why? Davis had a period of being just as bad as Edu not so long ago. Hutton would never get a game before Davis.

I never said it was a priority but when you look at a players performance, if they haven't been great, you start having a look at their stats to see if there may be a justifyable reason why he should play and 0 goals and 0 assists isn't great either.