rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 19-year-old announces he's going to be a dad. This was the top sport story running on Brazilian websites for much of yesterday.It shows just how big the obsession with Neymar has become.After announcing on facebook that he had got a 17-year-old girl pregnant, he flew back from Santos's Copa Libertadores win in Colombia and landed to a scene more befitting The Beatles at Sao Paulo's Guarulhos airport.Neymar was mobbed by fans and press, adding only they he was 'very happy' at the prospect of being a father.Neymar celebrates scoring for Brazil against ScotlandAmong those waiting were heartbroken, sobbing teenage girls. 'The girl is very lucky,' a disappointed Kristi Helleyn, 15, told Globoesporte. Giani, 14, added: 'Now it's difficult for other girls. It's even harder!'The identity of the mother-to-be has been withheld to protect her from the frenzy, but it is understood she is not - or at least was not - in a serious relationship with Neymar.Just two days before the announcement he responded to tabloid tales about his private live by tweeting that he was single. A fortnight ago he told a TV programme he didn't have a girlfriend, only an admirer.It is believed the girl is from Santos and three months' pregnant. Those who know him well say Neymar's initial reaction was one of shock and suspicion when he heard the news last week, but he has since banished negative thoughts.Playboy model Nicole Bahls, 24 - linked with the star earlier in the week - kept herself in the spotlight by saying: 'It is a blessing. I fully support him and I'm very happy for him. I'm sure he will be a wonderful father - he is a wonderful person and the best player in the world. Surely this baby will be an angel in Neymar's life.'I'm not dating him, but I know him very well. I prefer to leave doubt in the air, but I'm particularly fond of Neymar, as he is of me.'Model Nicole Bahls says Neymar is fond of herNeymar is a journalist's dream: good looking, controversial and, let's not forget, supremely talented. He will be on the front pages and leading advertising campaigns when the Copa America comes around, and media will be flocking to hear what he says.Chelsea will regret that their £25million wasn't enough to sign him last August because now the price and competition seems to be rising by the month. I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up at Stamford Bridge, but does impending parenthood change anything? Maybe, and maybe not for the worse.Neymar announced himself to Britain and Europe when he scored twice and dazzled against Scotland and Arsenal's Emirates Stadium in March. And what struck him was that amid Neymar-fever, he could still find anonymity in London. Compatriots with a bigger profile over here have confirmed that to him too.No such luck in Santos. Against the best advice of those around him last August, he made it clear he did not want to leave his hometown and the friends he had there. This was a teenage boy talking, but times change.I've been to Santos, walked around its fairly small centre and visited the modest Vila Belmiro stadium where once Pele and now Neymar wow the crowds.The local-boy-done-good cannot escape the frenzy there and he was alarmed by the harassment that followed the sacking of Dorival Junior, the manager who brought Neymar through only to be disposed of when he wanted to ban the forward for swearing at him in public. It's an episode the No 11 regrets and he was booed by his own fans in the immediate aftermath.A change of scenery is now less daunting, and the attention will only grow. Whether he would consider leaving before his child is due around November is a legitimate question, but a move this summer may be affected by football matters in any case.Santos are a step away from the semi-finals of the Copa Libertadores, South America's most prestigious club competition, and club president Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro is rather prematurely already dreaming of lifting the trophy and playing Barcelona in the Club World Cup come December.That is the only thing that might postpone Paulo Henrique Ganso (right) wanting to leave the club, too, which could prove an even greater benefit.Neymar may hog the limelight, but Ganso is the player who many seasoned watchers of Brazil believe can return them to greatness. One journalist who watches Santos every week told me that the club can play well without Neymar, but not without the midfield maestro who has been called the Brazilian Zidane.Ganso can play in the Kaka role, or a little deeper, and orchestrates play with a fantastic range of passing and the ability to see what is going on all around the pitch.At 21 he has made it clear he wants to head for Europe, probably to Italy, and has both Milan clubs interested. The concern for suitors, though, is the injury record of a player Santos want more than £30m for. It is just two months since Ganso, which means goose in Portuguese, returned from a serious knee injury that kept him out for seven months. The team who had run away with the Sao Paulo state title and Brazilian Cup in the first half of last year looked average in his absence and finished a disappointing eighth in the Brazilian Serie A.Last weekend, as Santos played the first leg of this year's Sao Paulo state championship final against Corinthians, Ganso picked up a thigh injury that will keep him out for six weeks.It not only dents the hopes of his club, but also puts his Copa America participation in serious doubt.Mano Menezes, the coach who replaced Dunga after the World Cup last year, had hoped that next week he would be able to name what will more or less be his squad for the South American championship.Brazil coach Mano Menezes embraces NeymarMenezes is picking players to face Holland and Romania early next month - the latter being a farewell game for Ronaldo - and had indicated there will be few changes to the party who will travel to Argentina in July.He will, however, give Ganso as long as possible to prove his fitness. 'We’re going to wait a little longer,' said Menezes. 'Maybe it won’t be so much (time he is out), let’s wait a bit to see how his recovery goes.'Ganso is an organiser who reads the game for the team, he puts the pass through on goal, he sets the rhythm. This player is harder to find.'High praise, especially for a player who has only one cap - earned in Menezes's first game in charge, against the United States in August, when Neymar again dominated the headlines for scoring on his debut.And high praise because Brazil are arguably blessed with creative midfielders more than young natural goalscorers such as Neymar.Leaving Kaka aside, Sao Paulo starlet Lucas Moura impressed as a sub against Scotland, replacing the tenacious Shakhtar Donetsk schemer Jadson, while Lazio's Hernanes has also been outstanding as a creative force in midfield at times this season.But none of them is Ganso, and if he has the chance to fulfil his promise at the Copa America, he might just show Neymar who's the daddy.* * * * * * * * * * * *Japan's participation in the Copa America continues to cause concern. Yesterday I wrote about their struggle to corral enough players for the tournament - with reports indicating they would announce their withdrawal today.Julio Grondona, the FA president of tournament hosts Argentina, responded last night by promising an announcement on Tuesday, confirming there had been difficulties in persuading European clubs to release players.German clubs are proving particularly resistant, while here in England Sven Goran Eriksson says he wouldn't expect Leicester midfielder Yuki Abe to play.Grondona said: 'On Tuesday we have the final confirmation, because some countries have offered some players. The most serious problem is with Germany.'Asked if Costa Rica would replace Japan, he said: 'It's not a problem for the AFA but for the confederation (CONMEBOL), which organizes the event. Costa Rica could be the replacement.'Among those waiting were heartbroken, sobbing teenage girlsIntersting article He's becoming a national obsession along with this guy Paulo Henrique 'Ganso'Apparently he's the new Zidane and the saviour of Brazilian footballhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idvGWlvRHyEBoth unbelievable talents . Would love to see them in the premiershipGanso is apparently close to joining Milan and Chelsea are still keen on NeymarBoth would be huge deals IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxibear87 129 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've seen Ganso play once and thought he was incredible.Same mate, phenomenal player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goianegra 4,680 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Wish Man Utd and Chelsea would fuck off, always sniffing about young Brazilians. Didn't Neymar say he wanted to go to Juve anyway? As for the story, if he wasn't from Brazil, I'd be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Laff's Dodgy Barnett 20 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Keep the 2 of them away from that shite EPL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've seen Ganso play once and thought he was incredible.Where did you see him play ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienM855 413 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Ganso is a great play, as is Neymar, But Lucas is my personal favorite.Give him 3-5 years (max), And he could be as good as Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Brazil vs USA Neymar's first international goal if im not mistaken ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Sparkes 97 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 That's nothing for BrazilWhen Kleberson joined Man Utd, his pregnant wife wasn't allowed into the UK at first because she was only 15He was 24 at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plamf 39 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 'Would love to see them in the Premiership' is a fucking horrible quote. I hate seeing players in the Premiership, it fucking ruins them. If you look at the top 10 players in the world, how many play in England? Maybe 3? If that?Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Might have been.First of many im sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 'Would love to see them in the Premiership' is a fucking horrible quote. I hate seeing players in the Premiership, it fucking ruins them. If you look at the top 10 players in the world, how many play in England? Maybe 3? If that?3 out of 10 is pretty good Plus they are playing in a much more challenging league than Barca/Real are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,473 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 'Would love to see them in the Premiership' is a fucking horrible quote. I hate seeing players in the Premiership, it fucking ruins them. If you look at the top 10 players in the world, how many play in England? Maybe 3? If that?IMO top ten:MessiRonaldoXaviIniestaRooneyRobbenPuyolVidicCasillasVillaLa Liga: 7English Premier League: 2Bundesliga: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've seen Ganso play once and thought he was incredible.I've caught a couple of Santos games online and he's basically Kaka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly 19 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I've caught a couple of Santos games online and he's basically Kaka.Hes nothing like Kaka. Kaka used his pace more than anything, this guy is far more like Zidane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roidrager 10 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 'Would love to see them in the Premiership' is a fucking horrible quote. I hate seeing players in the Premiership, it fucking ruins them. If you look at the top 10 players in the world, how many play in England? Maybe 3? If that?Ronaldo was hardly ruined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,893 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 'Would love to see them in the Premiership' is a fucking horrible quote. I hate seeing players in the Premiership, it fucking ruins them. If you look at the top 10 players in the world, how many play in England? Maybe 3? If that? (tu) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Would love to see them in the Premiership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 IMO top ten:MessiRonaldoXaviIniestaRooneyRobbenPuyolVidicCasillasVillaLa Liga: 7English Premier League: 2Bundesliga: 1He isn't even the best Keeper in the world, let alone in the top 10 players? You've also ignored players like Falcao, Cavani, Eto. Maybe even Suarez, in recent form he's certainly above some of those mentioned.Hard to pick out a top 10 to be fair. But Casillas shouldn't be there, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Hes nothing like Kaka. Kaka used his pace more than anything, this guy is far more like Zidane.A tall playmaker with a growing athleticism, silky passing, a good shot and a tremendous reading of the game. He's a lot like Kaka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,473 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 He isn't even the best Keeper in the world, let alone in the top 10 players? You've also ignored players like Falcao, Cavani, Eto. Maybe even Suarez, in recent form he's certainly above some of those mentioned.Hard to pick out a top 10 to be fair. But Casillas shouldn't be there, imo.Falcao should not be near the top 10, great player but not top 10, same with Suarez and cavani. Eto'o was considered but didn't put him in. Casillas in terms of medals, experience and just the fact I think he's a good keeper. The majority of people who would do this probably would end up not putting in any keepers or defenders at all because they're not getting the goals etc etc but they are more talented than other midfielders and strikersAll IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 You've also ignored players like Falcao, Cavani, Eto. Maybe even Suarez, in recent form he's certainly above some of those mentioned.Hard to pick out a top 10 to be fair. But Casillas shouldn't be there, imo.Those in bold haven't done anywhere near enough to get on any list of the best players in the world. Cavani has had one good season off the back of two or three very average ones, Falcao is playing well in a side that's build around him in a fairly poor league, and Suarez has had a good 4 months since leaving Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 IMO top ten:MessiRonaldoXaviIniestaRooneyRobbenPuyolVidicCasillasVillaLa Liga: 7English Premier League: 2Bundesliga: 1Ronaldo and Robben were made in the premiership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathewIsHere 58 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 La Liga is way overrated pish league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly 19 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 good player seen him for villarreal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,473 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Ronaldo and Robben were made in the premiershipbut were too good for it so left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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