luv2CtheRANGERSscore 3 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 From what I've read and heard by posters in the know we should be fine ? I'm clearly no finacial expert but ? (hear me out) Why would hmrc take us this far if it is so cut and dry worries me a bit I was hoping they were just hurting from loss of revenue due to the loophole Is it possible they are just looking for a victory against us no matter how small and any award against the club would be very small but essentially a victory for them Is that a possibility ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 From what I've read and heard by posters in the know we should be fine ? I'm clearly no finacial expert but ? (hear me out) Why would hmrc take us this far if it is so cut and dry worries me a bit I was hoping they were just hurting from loss of revenue due to the loophole Is it possible they are just looking for a victory against us no matter how small and any award against the club would be very small but essentially a victory for them Is that a possibility ?I think we are totally fucked to be honest with you. Whyte has duped millions of supporters the world over because he knows how desperate we are for good news.The reality is that we will lose the case, the club will fold, Whyte will turn Ibrox into flats/hotel/shopping mall and The Rangers will be little more than a memory for me to bore my grand-children with.Aye, fucking right ye are! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 From what I've read and heard by posters in the know we should be fine ? I'm clearly no finacial expert but ? (hear me out) Why would hmrc take us this far if it is so cut and dry worries me a bit I was hoping they were just hurting from loss of revenue due to the loophole Is it possible they are just looking for a victory against us no matter how small and any award against the club would be very small but essentially a victory for them Is that a possibility ?Nah, it will all be fine. Honestly, my mates pals uncle feeds George Osbournes goldfish and he heard that there is nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Its the tax payers that are funding this mate They are chancing their arm to see if they can get somethingIf they dont then they move on to someone elseThey will slways be vultures looking for a penny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegecko 306 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 this case is not just about us. If HMRC win the case no matter how small the award it will pave the way for them to bring proceedings against numerous other clubs around the uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I wish Spangles was here to guide us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 this case is not just about us. If HMRC win the case no matter how small the award it will pave the way for them to bring proceedings against numerous other clubs around the ukCeltic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2CtheRANGERSscore 3 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cool that kinda makes sense like I said I'm no expert in tax law just wondered why it has gotten this far ect Oh aye and shitty replies to an honest question is below the standard of what I expect from fellow bears tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Celtic ?at worst in a very minimal way. they used ebt's only for 1 year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegecko 306 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Celtic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 at worst in a very minimal way. they used ebt's only for 1 year.Niiiiice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Oh aye and shitty replies to an honest question is below the standard of what I expect from fellow bears tbhCalm down pal, I was clearly joking. Making light of the situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I am not worrying about this tax case.They can take our stadium, they can take our training ground, they can take all the merchandise. They can take the players, management and staff.The Rangers will always be.No Surrender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietofWorms 2,063 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I am not worrying about this tax case.They can take our stadium, they can take our training ground, they can take all the merchandise. They can take the players, management and staff.The Rangers will always be.No Surrender.Freeeeeeedommmmmm! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecowboy 92 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 From what I've read and heard by posters in the know we should be fine ? I'm clearly no finacial expert but ? (hear me out) Why would hmrc take us this far if it is so cut and dry worries me a bit I was hoping they were just hurting from loss of revenue due to the loophole Is it possible they are just looking for a victory against us no matter how small and any award against the club would be very small but essentially a victory for them Is that a possibility ?There might not be a huge financial gain for them (if any) form our case, but as bluegecko has said it sets a precident for them to take on other clubs and businesses that have used these scheme's.This is more or less a test case for them to see if its viable to continue with other claims of the same nature.there is a difference between tax avoidance and plain just not paying any tax and we fall into the first instance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 they have lost every ebt case they have prosecuted so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Were arsenal not found guiltyOr did they settle a lump sum prior to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,799 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 If I was HMRC I would be looking for a test case that I could possibly win to use as a precedent. And as Rangers are regarded as the anti Christ and responsible for global warming, droughts, the Icelandic volcanoes, world poverty etc. then they seem a good place to start! (or am I being paranoid?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cool that kinda makes sense like I said I'm no expert in tax law just wondered why it has gotten this far ect Oh aye and shitty replies to an honest question is below the standard of what I expect from fellow bears tbhBeep Beep all aboard the victim bus destination the Peadodrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Were arsenal not found guiltyOr did they settle a lump sum prior to it?Im not sure they ever were found guilty.I dont think they paid a penny though they accrued for it,Call it gut instinct if you want, we will lose this case and owe them something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 We just need to be patient and see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beattie7 2 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 When is this tax case anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Necessities 41 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 This is doing my nut in, i want this over and done with asap! Does anyone know the timescale for when we will find out one way or the other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngigha 0 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 We are HMRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Oh aye and shitty replies to an honest question is below the standard of what I expect from fellow bears tbhI was just giving an honest answer to a shitty question well below the standard I expect from fellow bears to be honest.Quits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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