richie81 5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Joe Cole is a shout Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 The squad is huge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbg 20 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Healy, Kerkar, Little and Weir are going nowhere. Re-signed in a panic because nobody would come to us. A criminal waste of money, they won't (& shouldn't) feature very much at all.Panic? In June? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAlly. 9 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 What happens when one of them gets injured and the back up striker comes in and is no good? We already have a few of them. We need a striker of real quality, one i doubt we will get.Then we have Naismith Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Then we have NaismithWho is much better in midfield and should be in there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Honestly? After tying down all our best players and signing about 10 new ones. We dont know if there was preconditions, he could have told Ally, there was no need to tell us.10?????????Goian, Bocanegro, Wallace, Ortiz, McKay and Bedoya. Bartley is a loan but I'll let you have that one. Are you including youth players?He was keen enough to spout his £25 million over 5 years that could be front loaded, no mention of tax bills, CL etc etc.There was a need to tell us about the £25 million over 5 years that could be front loaded though, why, simple, season ticket renewals.If Murray or even the bank had pulled the same shit they would have had dogs abuse. Before anybody thinks I want to go back to the bank, no way, AJ and the old board were as bad or worse, but Whyte has not lived up to his promises, some could say lied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 10?????????Goian, Bocanegro, Wallace, Ortiz, McKay and Bedoya. Bartley is a loan but I'll let you have that one. Are you including youth players?He was keen enough to spout his £25 million over 5 years that could be front loaded, no mention of tax bills, CL etc etc.There was a need to tell us about the £25 million over 5 years that could be front loaded though, why, simple, season ticket renewals.If Murray or even the bank had pulled the same shit they would have had dogs abuse. Before anybody thinks I want to go back to the bank, no way, AJ and the old board were as bad or worse, but Whyte has not lived up to his promises, some could say lied.You named 7, then there is Healy, Kerkar, Weir, Little, McMillan and Perry who were all unnattached to clubs in the summer, we signed all them, that actually makes it nearer 15 new signings, 13 i think. Im with you, i agree with you, but, i dont think he expected to lose Champs League qualifiers, naive maybe given who we are and our record in Europe, but i think the Malmo defeat made him think twice. I dont think there was a need, season ticket will always be sold here and with Ally taking over, it was always going to be an exciting new era fans would want to buy into. I think we have done plenty this summer, but remarkably are still 2 players short. Maybe funds are being kept for the January window, maybe they are for the immediate tax bill which needs paid. Who knows, but i would also like to know, where is th emoney from the fallen thorugh deals? The £9.6m worth of offers which fell through, where is the money? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,599 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Think you might have failed to notice how many players we actually have just now.Allan McGregorDorin GoianDavid Weir Kirk BroadfootSaša PapacLee McCullochMaurice EduSteven DavisNikica JelavićJohn FleckKyle LaffertyLee WallaceSteven NaismithDavid HealySteven WhittakerJuan Manuel OrtizCarlos BocanegraJames BeattieKyle Bartley Neil AlexanderJamie NessGregg WyldeSalim KerkarAlejandro BedoyaMatt McKayThat's 25 players without taking into account the likes of Perry, McMillan, Hutton, Little, Cole, Bendiksen and Hemmings.Think it's fair to say we could lose the likes of Kerkar, Beattie, Healy, Hutton and Fleck( both loans) and bring in three more quality signings and have more than enough cover.Spot on.Don't forget the versatility of some of our players aswell.As we've discussed, a quality striker.. maybe another on loan and a creative midfield (though I don't think we'll add to the midfield) and we have a very strong looking squad. The squad itself actually looks pretty good, with the exception of depth up front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Panic? In June?Healy 30 JuneKerkar 28 JuneLittle 2 JulyWeir 17 JulyYes in a panic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbroxybear 660 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Think you might have failed to notice how many players we actually have just now.Allan McGregorDorin GoianDavid Weir Kirk Broadfoot--------------Not good enough should be punted or loaned out.Saša PapacLee McCulloch---------------Not good enough should not have got a new deal time to punt or loan out.Maurice EduSteven DavisNikica JelavićJohn Fleck------------------Time to loan out and get game time.Kyle LaffertyLee WallaceSteven NaismithDavid Healy----------------Given a new deal and has came off the bench once, should not have been given a new deal.Steven Whittaker-----------Not good enough should have got shot instead of giving him new 5yr deal.Juan Manuel OrtizCarlos BocanegraJames Beattie-------------Not good enough should be off loaded or loaned out, need off the wage bill.Kyle Bartley Neil AlexanderJamie NessGregg WyldeSalim Kerkar-------------Another that should not have had a new deal waste of a wage.Alejandro BedoyaMatt McKayThat's 25 players without taking into account the likes of Perry, McMillan, Hutton, Little, Cole, Bendiksen and Hemmings.Think it's fair to say we could lose the likes of Kerkar, Beattie, Healy, Hutton and Fleck( both loans) and bring in three more quality signings and have more than enough cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 You named 7, then there is Healy, Kerkar, Weir, Little, McMillan and Perry who were all unnattached to clubs in the summer, we signed all them, that actually makes it nearer 15 new signings, 13 i think. Im with you, i agree with you, but, i dont think he expected to lose Champs League qualifiers, naive maybe given who we are and our record in Europe, but i think the Malmo defeat made him think twice. I dont think there was a need, season ticket will always be sold here and with Ally taking over, it was always going to be an exciting new era fans would want to buy into. I think we have done plenty this summer, but remarkably are still 2 players short. Maybe funds are being kept for the January window, maybe they are for the immediate tax bill which needs paid. Who knows, but i would also like to know, where is th emoney from the fallen thorugh deals? The £9.6m worth of offers which fell through, where is the money?There was a risk for the CL qualifiers because we hadn't got any new players, yes we should have beaten Malmo with what we had, but a couple of new players of decent quality would have made the difference. Instead we deliberately submitted low bid after low bid.He knew about the tax bill, that's why he got the club for £1, so for me that's no excuse.I also think we have bought well, need to see more of Bocanegra.Your final point is the clincher, yes where is that money. We need another striker in now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 There was a risk for the CL qualifiers because we hadn't got any new players, yes we should have beaten Malmo with what we had, but a couple of new players of decent quality would have made the difference. Instead we deliberately submitted low bid after low bid.He knew about the tax bill, that's why he got the club for £1, so for me that's no excuse.I also think we have bought well, need to see more of Bocanegra.Your final point is the clincher, yes where is that money. We need another striker in now.He knew about the fine but did he know about the penalty of £1.4m or that it needs paid this week either. Agreed, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAlly. 9 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Who is much better in midfield and should be in there.Still a decent striker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Still a decent striker.Didnt look like it against Malmo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbg 20 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Healy 30 JuneKerkar 28 JuneLittle 2 JulyWeir 17 JulyYes in a panic.I don't think McCoist was thinking he wouldn't get anyone in when the transfer window had only just opened. Whatever the rights and wrongs of those deals, I think he just wanted those players to stay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Alexander makes 26 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I don't think McCoist was thinking he wouldn't get anyone in when the transfer window had only just opened. Whatever the rights and wrongs of those deals, I think he just wanted those players to stay.He said as soon as he took over he wanted "everyone to stay". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 He's on the list. Aaaah FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I don't think McCoist was thinking he wouldn't get anyone in when the transfer window had only just opened. Whatever the rights and wrongs of those deals, I think he just wanted those players to stay.I think the first 3 were simply bodies for Germany and the squad.Weir was a panic.Whatever the reason, all 4 are a waste of money, imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbg 20 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Whatever the reason, all 4 are a waste of money, imo.Hopefully not too much of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 we need a couple of quality players yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCafu 3 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Anyone got any idea what the deal is with beattie? Is he still at the club earning about 20grand a week n isn't even on the bench? Keep forgetting we even singed him. Shud get rid of him before the 31st of august anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAlly. 9 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Didnt look like it against Malmo.Oh no he had 1 bad game! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Oh no he had 1 bad game!He actually started the season poor, carried on from a poor pre season but Sunday he was back to hsi best, in midfield might i add. His days as a striker are gone imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Think you might have failed to notice how many players we actually have just now.Allan McGregorDorin GoianDavid Weir Kirk BroadfootSaa PapacLee McCullochMaurice EduSteven DavisNikica JelavićJohn FleckKyle LaffertyLee WallaceSteven NaismithDavid HealySteven WhittakerJuan Manuel OrtizCarlos BocanegraJames BeattieKyle Bartley Neil AlexanderJamie NessGregg WyldeSalim KerkarAlejandro BedoyaMatt McKayThat's 25 players without taking into account the likes of Perry, McMillan, Hutton, Little, Cole, Bendiksen and Hemmings.Think it's fair to say we could lose the likes of Kerkar, Beattie, Healy, Hutton and Fleck( both loans) and bring in three more quality signings and have more than enough cover.I'd lose them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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