effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They have not been criticised for that at all. Their relationship with large corporations, which is not the likes of Rangers, has been heavily questioned.We'll have to agree to disagree... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I am doubtful that HMRC will allow a reduced settlement - in the last two days they have been villified in the mainstream press for allowing such deals in the past - you cannot be half guilty of not paying full liabilities, and they will now demand the full liability. That does, however, assume that HMRC's case is watertight. Cameron et al will be under severe pressure to extract full liability; a ready made excuse for the govt is the need for everyone to pay taxes fully in these straightened times. I fear the worst is yet to come...aye ok............timmy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Hadji Spit RFC 733 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 such a secret and not for public domain u plaster it all over a fans forum anaw mate, dubious is an understatementThe press will likely see whats what, they have sources Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 aye ok............timmy!Timmy?? Goodness, and we accuse them of being paranoid. My points are pertinent, and I am not a 'timmy'... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'll happily eat me words if this is true but I won't hold my breath on this one. But I'm sure the papers will have a story on this soon enough or maybe they just won't waste the paper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The tax case site has gone into meltdown. They foolishly seem to be basing their hopes on the sale document.They say Whyte can't settle it - and leave off the bit WITHOUT PERMISSION.He may have got permission if Murray thought it was a flyer.It may not even be Whyte that has settled it.Who knows if there is any truth in it, but it's certainly got RTC shitting themselves.Apparently we're all "ecstatic" over this rumour. Bet Timmys no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Timmy?? Goodness, and we accuse them of being paranoid. My points are pertinent, and I am not a 'timmy'...As I stated earlier................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The tax case site has gone into meltdown. They foolishly seem to be basing their hopes on the sale document.They say Whyte can't settle it - and leave off the bit WITHOUT PERMISSION.He may have got permission if Murray thought it was a flyer.It may not even be Whyte that has settled it.Who knows if there is any truth in it, but it's certainly got RTC shitting themselves.Apparently we're all "ecstatic" over this rumour. Bet Timmys no.Is there an open forum on that site, cant see one Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As I stated earlier................. A childish insult that really merits no futher response, but I will. I repeat; my points are pertinent, and I'm not a 'timmy'. I was in conversation (business) with Messrs McCoist and Whyte at the Hilton on the 9th of December, where Mr Whyte tripped over a small table whilst posing for photographs with supporters who were at adjoining tables. I'm certain both gentlemen will be amused at your accusation against me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Is there an open forum on that site, cant see oneThey have a replies section just below the title.Tims in turmoil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh Salim 215 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A childish insult that really merits no futher response, but I will. I repeat; my points are pertinent, and I'm not a 'timmy'. I was in conversation (business) with Messrs McCoist and Whyte at the Hilton on the 9th of December, where Mr Whyte tripped over a small table whilst posing for photographs with supporters who were at adjoining tables. I'm certain both gentlemen will be amused at your accusation against me...I suppose everyone that does business with Mr Whyte and Mr McCoist are Rangers fans then... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 When someone starts by saying "This is a rumour" why do so many people wet their knickers and get all emotional.If someone starts by saying "This is fact" and cannot back it up then by all means rip them to shreds. SkiBunny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stampyurie 203 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Any more news on this maybe true/rumour i cant be arsed trollin through the new 7 pages thats been added since i last seen it?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Any more news on this maybe true/rumour i cant be arsed trollin through the new 7 pages thats been added since i last seen it?.Still the same, no one knows, sorry el hadji split knows Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I suppose everyone that does business with Mr Whyte and Mr McCoist are Rangers fans then... I am. I cannot speak for any others who do business with the owner... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I am. I cannot speak for any others who do business with the owner...Line of work u in mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A childish insult that really merits no futher response, but I will. I repeat; my points are pertinent, and I'm not a 'timmy'. I was in conversation (business) with Messrs McCoist and Whyte at the Hilton on the 9th of December, where Mr Whyte tripped over a small table whilst posing for photographs with supporters who were at adjoining tables. I'm certain both gentlemen will be amused at your accusation against me...Pics or it didn't happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh Salim 215 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I am. I cannot speak for any others who do business with the owner...Back to your original post, yes you can. The people who decide on the outcome of the case can decide on both parties being partly responsible for any issues that have arisen. If it was so clear cut, it would have been over and done with. It is in the HMRC's interest for Rangers to be around for the long haul. I can't imagine they want Rangers to go into admin as a result, so would be happy to settle on a lesser amount that lets them recoup some cash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pics or it didn't happen.lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pics or it didn't happen.I know, I should have told him to stay on the ground whilst I got out my mobile and taken some pics!! It'll be easy to verify, should you disbelieve me; call the Hilton... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,253 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Did he not say he would pay the 18mil debt if we won the tax case or if it went really well?The only thing I have read personally was that he would write off the debt if we lost the tax case. Wouldn't be any point in him becoming a creditor to himself. He'd also only receive a pittance in comparison to what 'he' was owed anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I know, I should have told him to stay on the ground whilst I got out my mobile and taken some pics!! It'll be easy to verify, should you disbelieve me; call the Hilton...Line of work u in mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
effindelicious 10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Back to your original post, yes you can. The people who decide on the outcome of the case can decide on both parties being partly responsible for any issues that have arisen. If it was so clear cut, it would have been over and done with. It is in the HMRC's interest for Rangers to be around for the long haul. I can't imagine they want Rangers to go into admin as a result, so would be happy to settle on a lesser amount that lets them recoup some cash.HMRC wish for the full amount liable, that much is not in question. We are contesting the liability; HMRC regard us as being fully responsible for the liability. I'm afraid that both parties cannot be held responsible for non-payment of liabilities, but may reach agreement on a reduced sum. My original post states that this way forward is now in question, due to the adverse comments the Commons Committee made these last two days; vilifying HMRC for such practices in the near past. That is where we are... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stampyurie 203 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Still the same, no one knows, sorry el hadji split knowsAs long as some one knows whays happenin al sleep fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod1822 1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A celtic minded cleaner at the Hilton... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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