nelsonRFC82 305 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If we are a new club with no history why would we receive points deduction in the forthcoming seasons? If Rangers go out of business and, for arguments sake, Wick Academy applied to enter the SPL and were accepted would they receive a point deduction? No, they would be an entirely new club entering the SPL and have no reason to receive punishment. Rangers 2012 (or whatever the name) would receive the punishment because of the actions of the Rangers (as we know it now) therefore they are inextricably linked.If we are to receive punishment then we must be considered to be the same football club, simply a different company. Unless they are really saying we are going to punish this brand new club for the actions of the previous member club although the clubs have absolutely no association with each other and no shared history...utter nonsense!As far as I know it was Celtic Football & Athletic Company Ltd that won European Cup in 1967. This company stopped trading in 1994. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 is there anyway that we(the support) can in the worst case scenario demand that if someone is going to buy or assets ect and do the "pheonix club" that our history must be part of the package.i for one cant bear the thought that all our titles/cups ect are lost and a new rangers starts from scratch. i also have my doubts how i would feel to such a club, espcially without our history.this is a serious question i am asking so none a the usual shite Just lifted this from Leeds Utds club siteA complete record of United's honours at home and abroad... FOOTBALL LEAGUE1968-69 First Division champions1973-74 First Division champions1991-92 First Division champions1964-65 First Division runners-up1965-66 First Division runners-up1969-70 First Division runners-up1970-71 First Division runners-up1971-72 First Division runners-up-----------------------------------1923-24 Second Division champions1963-64 Second Division champions1989-90 Second Division champions1927-28 Second Division runners-up1931-32 Second Division runners-up1955-56 Second Division runners-up2009-10 League One runners-up-------------------------------------------FA CUP1972 FA Cup winners1965 FA Cup finalists1970 FA Cup finalists1973 FA Cup finalists-------------------------------------------FOOTBALL LEAGUE CUP1968 Football League Cup winners1996 Football League Cup finalists------------------------------------------CHARITY SHIELD1969 FA Charity Shield winners1974 FA Charity Shield runners-up1992 FA Charity Shield winners-------------------------------------------FA YOUTH CUP1993 FA Youth Cup winners1997 FA Youth Cup winners-------------------------------------------EUROPEAN CUP1974-75 European Cup finalists1969-70 European Cup semi finalists1992-93 European Cup second round------------------------------------------UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE2000-01 Champions League semi finalists------------------------------------------EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS CUP1972-73 European Cup-Winners Cup finalists------------------------------------------INTER CITY FAIRS CUP/UEFA CUP1967-68 European Fairs Cup winners1970-71 European Fairs Cup winners1966-67 European Fairs Cup finalists1965-66 European Fairs Cup semi finalists1968-69 European Fairs Cup quarter finalists1971-72 UEFA Cup first round1973-74 UEFA Cup third round1979-80 UEFA Cup second round1995-96 UEFA Cup second round1998-99 UEFA Cup second round1999-00 UEFA Cup semi finalists2001-02 UEFA Cup third round2002-03 UEFA Cup third round------------------------------------------------LEAGUE HISTORY1920-24 Second Division1924-27 First Division1927-28 Second Division1928-31 First Division1931-32 Second Division1932-47 First Division1947-56 Second Division1956-60 First Division1960-64 Second Division1964-82 First Division1982-90 Second Division1990-92 First Division1992-2004 FA Premier League2004-07 Championship2007-10 League One2010- Championship Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 761 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why did Fiorentina not lose their history? They had to start from scratch.Celtic plc is a new legal entity from celtic Football and Athletic Club...what's the difference?Fact: Phoenix company is a new legal entity.I don't know what happened with Celtic and Fiorentina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Fact: Phoenix company is a new legal entity.I don't know what happened with Celtic and Fiorentina.OK, let's ignore Celtic and Fiorentina.It may well be a new legal entity, but does this mean it is a separate football club. IF this is taken to mean a club entirely separate from the current Rangers Football Club, how can it possibly face sanctions and penalty points in relation to the actions of the current Rangers Football Club?The underlying logic to this is, those who are anti-Rangers want to banish all the successes from the history of Rangers Football Club, whilst at the same time using the failures from the history of Rangers Football Club to enforce a punishment on any new Rangers Football Club. It is complete nonsense.Think along this lines; I (nelsonRFC82) commit a crime and the CPS want to prosecute me. I decide to do a runner. You (Jadams) move in to my house and, for whatever reason, decide to legally change your name to "nelsonRFC82 v2". There is no other connection between the two of us, other than you now have a similar name to mine and live at my former address, the CPS decide they are going to punish you now because they can't find me. This would be absurd.If however, in the above scenario, rather than you moving in to my house, I, after returning from my hideaway, decide to move back in to my former house and live my normal life again only having legally changed my name to nelsonRFC82 v2, the CPS would be straight in to prosecute me for my previous crime.A stupid scenario I know, but this is very fucking similar in logic to what is being suggested here!nb- I have used you, Jadams, merely to illustrate my point not trying to say you are supporting the point being put out by any of those of the "corinthian spirit". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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