StudsLonniegan 9 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 hopefully they can.Along with a possible tax liability, or does their cash not stretch that far, something tells me Whyte may have more cash than murray's raiders do, well the bank hasn't says he doesn't although the taig press does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 if the outrage shown in the arsenal shares thread is real then some people have serious anger issuesyou think its anything other than an outrage to sell something rangers have owned for 100 years and pocket the cash. because if you really do and your not just blindly being a sensible head your a moron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Along with a possible tax liability, or does their cash not stretch that far, something tells me Whyte may have more cash than murray's raiders do, well the bank hasn't says he doesn't although the taig press does. whyte hasn't got a pot to piss in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 you think its anything other than an outrage to sell something rangers have owned for 100 years and pocket the cash. because if you really do and your not just blindly being a sensible head your a moron.fucking do one. The shares were merely shares. The historical link will remain between the clubs no matter what happens.The hatred over this is laughable considering Murray started selling off our club piece by piece. But hey he just ran up debt after debt so lets just forget thatthe rangers fans have been shafted for years now with lie after lie. But hey we won things so that's all that matters eh? i honestly couldn't care less if Craig whyte mugged an old lady in the street. Infact he probably did to give Murray the quid. As long as rangers come out of this administration with the ability to stand on their own and be able to plan for the future without worrying about short term issues, I'll be a happy fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 whyte hasn't got a pot to piss in.neither did Paul Murray and the rest of the old guard. Infact did sdm ever have a pot to piss in. He was quite adapt at using someone else's money and passing it off as his own. Funnily enough that reminds me of someone else Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 14 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Lots of questions so little answers, perfect ingredients for an opinion based on facts.It don't look good but I'll assume you know more than tom dick and harryLots of questions because you didn't make it clear what you were asking about. I'm still not sure but perhaps that you aren't either.Did Whyte put in £18M to clear the debt as he said he would? No. Fact.Did he use the club's future income to pay off the debt? Yes. Fact.Is Whyte better off because he didn't use any of his own funds to clear the debt? Yes. Fact.Are these enough facts for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 neither did Paul Murray and the rest of the old guard. Infact did sdm ever have a pot to piss in. He was quite adapt at using someone else's money and passing it off as his own. Funnily enough that reminds me of someone elseyour heroes put a quid in and stolen over 400k. p murrays not even had a cup of coffee we know about and sdm (cunt) put in 6 million then 50 million. you may not like the murrays but let's not kid on they are like whyte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 14 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 your heroes put a quid in and stolen over 400k. p murrays not even had a cup of coffee we know about and sdm (cunt) put in 6 million then 50 million. you may not like the murrays but let's not kid on they are like whyte.Murray didn't put in £6m. That went to Marlborough. He did put in around £10m at the same time that King invested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 fucking do one. The shares were merely shares. The historical link will remain between the clubs no matter what happens.The hatred over this is laughable considering Murray started selling off our club piece by piece. But hey he just ran up debt after debt so lets just forget thatthe rangers fans have been shafted for years now with lie after lie. But hey we won things so that's all that matters eh? i honestly couldn't care less if Craig whyte mugged an old lady in the street. Infact he probably did to give Murray the quid. As long as rangers come out of this administration with the ability to stand on their own and be able to plan for the future without worrying about short term issues, I'll be a happy fan.so stealing from the club is okeven ignoring what he stole its an outrage. your pushing the sensible head act to extremes now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 your heroes put a quid in and stolen over 400k. p murrays not even had a cup of coffee we know about and sdm (cunt) put in 6 million then 50 million. you may not like the murrays but let's not kid on they are like whyte.not my heroes. But if we come out of administration with the ability to breathe on our own then they will have done more for our club in 9 bad months than the previous regime managed in 3 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Murray didn't put in £6m. That went to Marlborough. He did put in around £10m at the same time that King invested.cheers bludell. I really meant put up. he took plenty out as well but he also advertised through his companies every year. my point is the comparison to whyte is laughable. much like jimbeams whole stance on the subject frankly. what do you see as whytes endgame. I'm told its liquidation and sell us on for a huge profit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Murray didn't put in £6m. That went to Marlborough. He did put in around £10m at the same time that King invested.so basically king put in more than sdm during his 20 years in charge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Gunslinger ruining another thread on RM.....there's a shock....NOT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 with 9 million a year to ticketus and a cva to pay that's literally impossible. the old regime handed us over owing 20 ish million. after administration we will be lucky if its 35 million all to be paid in 3 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Gunslinger ruining another thread on RM.....there's a shock....NOT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Gunslinger ruining another thread on RM.....there's a shock....NOT.here come the sensible heads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 with 9 million a year to ticketus and a cva to pay that's literally impossible. the old regime handed us over owing 20 ish million. after administration we will be lucky if its 35 million all to be paid in 3 years.Ah only half the story. Well done but easily spottedthe old regime handed over a club that potentially could be hit with a company crippling tax bill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Ah only half the story. Well done but easily spottedthe old regime handed over a club that potentially could be hit with a company crippling tax bill.ah the tax bill. make that 50 million to be paid in 3 years. if we lose the big tax case it will be liquidation. indeed that's the plan anyway. if we are liquidated will you still be supporting whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incisive Pass 8 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'm sure this what I was getting at the other day with 'Sources'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 ah the tax bill. make that 50 million to be paid in 3 years. if we lose the big tax case it will be liquidation. indeed that's the plan anyway. if we are liquidated will you still be supporting whyte?I'll still be supporting rangers and our new owner. The fact is under the old regime liquidation would have been a real possibility also. Hell even administration was a real possibility without champions league money under the old regime. As was discussed a couple of years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'll still be supporting rangers and our new owner. The fact is under the old regime liquidation would have been a real possibility also. Hell even administration was a real possibility without champions league money under the old regime. As was discussed a couple of years agoit was a possibility. now its a reality. what's your stance on the cash that's left rangers never to return. to banstead for example. your sidesteping that question a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata 161 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I take it vanguard bears speak for everyone of us now.ALL BOW DOWN TO VB Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I take it vanguard bears speak for everyone of us now.ALL BOW DOWN TO VBOR DIE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I take it vanguard bears speak for everyone of us now.ALL BOW DOWN TO VBAt least VB defend the club and fans while others sit back. When you see our club attacked by all directions thank God there is a VB who will fight back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 and anyway who's supporting him. I've admitted he's lied and he is turning out to be a crook. But it won't be the first time a chairman of our club has used someone else's money to fund his pleasuresonce administration is over we will be in control of our own destiny debt wise. Isn't that a good thing?'we' won't be in charge of our destiny. The question is 'who' will be in charge of our destiny? And would you be happy if that was mr Craig whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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