simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I hope that the news today of them going after Whyte and getting money frozen in the process puts to the bed any conspiracies such as the administrators working for Whyte, which were ridiculous in the first place.There's certainly an understandable lack of trust when it comes to people running our club these days but we're not dealing with egotistical wanks like Murray or cowboys like Whyte. Duff and Phelps are professionals who do their jobs, and the two men currently running our club are doing everything they can to save it, but sadly they've been given a hell of a job by previous people. Adminstration is horrible but in many ways it's good to finally have proper people at the helm, and if we come out of this process looking strong then i'll certainly feel very grateful to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Pair of cunts - I wouldn't trust any of these schysters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Fucking hell.How many times will people allow the club to get fucked over before they become wary of everybody? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Fucking hell.How many times will people allow the club to get fucked over before they become wary of everybody?They are all cunts - every one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Fucking hell.How many times will people allow the club to get fucked over before they become wary of everybody?Administrators from a company like Duff and Phelps are a very different kettle of fish from random businessman casey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 people said this about lloyds running us. indeed lloyds were quite the heroes on here at one time. kind of scary when you consider how that worked out. but people never learn. Clark and whitehouse will do the dirty work and then hand us back to whyte to sell at a huge profti. around 2700000000% profit. not bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Had a meeting today with a vastly experienced IP that has worked with Whitehouse in a professional capacity. He vouched for him unquestionably - said he will play it straight down the line and that he values his career and reputation too much to be a stooge for anyone. Take what you want from that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Speaking as a Joe Public man in the street I have to admit this whole business has opened my eyes to what a corrupt, parasitical bunch of cunts we have in this country.The Gov't should crack down on these vulture capitalist bastards preying on unsuspecting members of the public. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I am keeping an open mind on this one.Part of me saying " they are doing o.k" and another is saying "we would be better with Darren Clarke and Mary Whitehouse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Had a meeting today with a vastly experienced IP that has worked with Whitehouse in a professional capacity. He vouched for him unquestionably - said he will play it straight down the line and that he values his career and reputation too much to be a stooge for anyone. Take what you want from that.Good to hear, although I'd assume this would have to be the case for him to have the job he has.Whyte was a random businessman and there was always the chance he was no good, I didn't want to jump on bandwagons against him before evidence really came out but equally I wasn't creating a Craig Whyte fan club either.Clark and Whitehouse will have their reputation on the line when it comes to saving an institution as big as Rangers, so I seriously doubt there's any conspiracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Speaking as a Joe Public man in the street I have to admit this whole business has opened my eyes to what a corrupt, parasitical bunch of cunts we have in this country.The Gov't should crack down on these vulture capitalist bastards preying on unsuspecting members of the public.I think the business world is full of shysters ... obviously not everyone is like that but there is a lot of it about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 people said this about lloyds running us. indeed lloyds were quite the heroes on here at one time. kind of scary when you consider how that worked out. but people never learn. Clark and whitehouse will do the dirty work and then hand us back to whyte to sell at a huge profti. around 2700000000% profit. not badHere's a thought for you why did murray not do what whyte has done and make the money? Was it just ego and he couldn't bear to be publicly associated with failure or even (dare I say it) an attack of conscience? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry handsome 629 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I am going through a similar situation at the moment in trying to keep a couple of places open, I've managed to cut just under a quarter million a month in bad costs out of one business and got the loss per month down to less than 30k but it won't be enough to keep it open. I will probably have to tell 30 guys sorry it's time to close the doors. It's not easy being in the administration business but it happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Here's a thought for you why did murray not do what whyte has done and make the money? Was it just ego and he couldn't bear to be publicly associated with failure or even (dare I say it) an attack of conscience?basically that. Murray was also a lot of things but a thief isn't one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Had a meeting today with a vastly experienced IP that has worked with Whitehouse in a professional capacity. He vouched for him unquestionably - said he will play it straight down the line and that he values his career and reputation too much to be a stooge for anyone. Take what you want from that.he doesn't have to be a stooge for whyte to give whyte what he wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 basically that. Murray was also a lot of things but a thief isn't one of them.That's very true but he also knew if he finally pulled the plug on the club for financial gain he would spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 That's very true but he also knew if he finally pulled the plug on the club for financial gain he would spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulderyeah he can't just do a runner like whyte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I would question why the players offer to defer wages has been knocked back by the administrator if they aren't working to an agenda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I would question why the players offer to defer wages has been knocked back by the administrator if they aren't working to an agenda.It seems reasonable to me ... all a deferment does is add to the debt. Moreover, as there isn't a "football first" rule when it comes to creditors north of the border, it's possible, perhaps likely, that come the end of the deferment the outstanding wages couldn't be paid and the players would be shafted. Perhaps they're just being "stand up" guys not wanting to lead players down the garden path. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It seems reasonable to me ... all a deferment does is add to the debt. Moreover, as there isn't a "football first" rule when it comes to creditors north of the border, it's possible, perhaps likely, that come the end of the deferment the outstanding wages couldn't be paid and the players would be shafted. Perhaps they're just being "stand up" guys not wanting to lead players down the garden path.the players must know the risks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 I would question why the players offer to defer wages has been knocked back by the administrator if they aren't working to an agenda.An administration process isn't black and white, if anything i'd say the fact that they haven't rushed the redundancy issue shows that they've been doing their best to consider the footballing side of things as well, but it has to happen soon no doubt.Talk of agendas amongst administrators from a company with a big reputation just doesn't seem rational to me, more that because of Whyte people think everyone has some sort of darker motive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 agenda is probably the wrong word. plan perhaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 agenda is probably the wrong word. plan perhaps.They have a plan yes, a plan to save Rangers, the job they're getting paid to do, like any administrator tries to do for a company when they're brought in. The idea of any other plan is one I find bizarre, even in these times of shitebags and corruption that's a situation I find incredibly unlikely. If the administrators are part of some plan to shut us down then there's no point carrying on anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 They have a plan yes, a plan to save Rangers, the job they're getting paid to do, like any administrator tries to do for a company when they're brought in. The idea of any other plan is one I find bizarre, even in these times of shitebags and corruption that's a situation I find incredibly unlikely. If the administrators are part of some plan to shut us down then there's no point carrying on anyway.its a strange kind of administration so far. unlike any other clubs I have witnessed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 its a strange kind of administration so far. unlike any other clubs I have witnessed.Perhaps, but we're the biggest club to have ever gone into administration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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