Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 They won't print themselves. There may be a "finders fee" involved for, er....."finding" the printer to do it.Then there's handling charges, for, er....handling them, then there's storage costs, for, er....(you get the drift) distribution costs (petrol is expensive don'cha'know), etc, etc and so on. Sell 50,000 of these little beauties and you're well on the way to Teflon Dave status (less expenses). Question .....will they by their own? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Question .....will they by their own?Buy or 'by'?I know, it's early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Buy or 'by'?I know, it's early. I live by the saying.To err is human Plus it shows me people read posts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I live by the saying.To err is human Plus it shows me people read posts I forgive....isn't that devine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I forgive....isn't that devine? No he got the pokey for fiddling his MP expenses Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 good statement. I like it.This was my original post, my feelings about the issue. It's not lifted from anywhere, I wrote it last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny_01 2,007 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ive never been an RST fan or like anything thats came out of them but they do seem to be doing things for the good of the club, and if the blue knights trust them then i will, i agree with OP that the divisions need to stop but look how many fan groups thier are!! all of which seem quite influential in the media especially .... if these guys think holding a Red card up is goin to deter businessmen, im no so sure but hey ill gladly participate to get any message across... that we do not want liquidation FULL STOP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockney69 48 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Too many groupsPure pishNow im unsure if we can trust our own fan groups never mind new owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannochsideBear 355 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This is not an RST initiative. It was agreed at a meeting on Monday night between the Assembly, RST, Association, RFWG, TBO and the Corporate members.The cost of the cards has been kindly met by a Corporate member personally, whose sole concern is to try to put pressure on D&P to ensure they know that only parties who will not entertain liquidation will get the support of the fans.A meeting has been hastily arranged to put this point in person to D&P before the deadline for bids.Basically the message is, we dont have an opinion on who should get the club, all we want is for any bid that will entertain the prospect of liquidation to know that should they buy the club and go down this road, the fans will not follow. Our history must be preserved. This message has to be clearly sent to both D&P and any interested party before the conclusion of this deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 It's early o'clock in the morning, I'm just up and I've a print deadline to hit, I click on the PC and this discussion (argument) jumps out at me.Will the squabbling ever end? No offence intended to the organisers of this event (is it an event?), but if they honestly believe that the people who really matter in this sorry saga (the future financiers) give a flying fuck if 50,000 (aye, right) supporters wave a wee cardboard cut-out several times during a match then they're not living on the same planet as me.It's a futile (though probably well-meaning) gesture which will be forgotten about by those it is aimed at approximately 30-seconds after the match has ended.Oh, and lastly....I'm not sure the organisers contacted ALL the Rangers fans groups for this Monday meeting they spoke of.I can confirm of one fans' publication that wasn't told about it ( ) and at least one on-line fans' group that weren't invited either.Heart of the club right enough. At last someone posting sense.D & P's remit is to find the best bid for the club and the creditors. No one but them and the various bidders know what is involved in the individual bids.Ultimately they and they alone will decide who the next owners of RFC will be and no fan lobby waving little red cards will influence that decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 It's bloody obvious that certain people are using the emotive subject of liquidation to trick fans into showing support for a particular bid, a bid which which many are at minimum sceptical and others wholly against. This use of unhanded tactics surely shows not only the levels they will sink to but also which the levels that they can be trusted IMO after this latest stunt.They should be ashamed of themselves but people who use tactics like these have no shame for me, personally I don't know if I would allow this on the forum were it me, it's a little too underhanded for my taste.I agree 100% mate. We all know the main person doing this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 he's also the leader of the blue order I think? While he still sits with them, he is nothing to do with it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This is not an RST initiative. It was agreed at a meeting on Monday night between the Assembly, RST, Association, RFWG, TBO and the Corporate members.The cost of the cards has been kindly met by a Corporate member personally, whose sole concern is to try to put pressure on D&P to ensure they know that only parties who will not entertain liquidation will get the support of the fans.A meeting has been hastily arranged to put this point in person to D&P before the deadline for bids.Basically the message is, we dont have an opinion on who should get the club, all we want is for any bid that will entertain the prospect of liquidation to know that should they buy the club and go down this road, the fans will not follow. Our history must be preserved. This message has to be clearly sent to both D&P and any interested party before the conclusion of this dealI'm sure all those bitching, fighting and firing crap out about the display will apologise and retract their statments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Oh, and lastly....I'm not sure the organisers contacted ALL the Rangers fans groups for this Monday meeting they spoke of.I can confirm of one fans' publication that wasn't told about it ( ) and at least one on-line fans' group that weren't invited either.Heart of the club right enough. I'm a shareholder - they didn't contact me.But, one of their supporters - Gunslinger - has taken it upon himself to let me know that if 'if your happy with liquidation you don't have to hold a card up.' I'm certain the last time I came across a similar outburst was in Primary six or so.And they have the neck - the bare-faced neck - to suggest we need unity amongst the support now more than ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm a shareholder - they didn't contact me.But, one of their supporters - Gunslinger - has taken it upon himself to let me know that if 'if your happy with liquidation you don't have to hold a card up.' I'm certain the last time I came across a similar outburst was in Primary six or so.And they have the neck - the bare-faced neck - to suggest we need unity amongst the support now more than ever.You give them to much credit...................................Nursery more apt. They will have the cctv cameras panning the crowd for fans who do not hold up the card. And they will be put in the wee black book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm a shareholder - they didn't contact me.But, one of their supporters - Gunslinger - has taken it upon himself to let me know that if 'if your happy with liquidation you don't have to hold a card up.' I'm certain the last time I came across a similar outburst was in Primary six or so.And they have the neck - the bare-faced neck - to suggest we need unity amongst the support now more than ever.Why would the RST contact you is you are a shareholder?You expect them to contact every fan before organising a display?And you are talking about Primary 6 retorts.Jesus, I've said it before, but while tour current situation has bought out the best in some of the support, it has also brought out the worst as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Jesus, I've said it before, but while tour current situation has bought out the best in some of the support, it has also brought out the worst as well.Indeed. You have supporters indicating that 'if your happy with liquidation you don't have to hold a card up'. Playground nonsense as I'm sure you agree.I'm the last person in support of liquidation - but I don't like anyone telling me what to do or how to think. Ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastrax 274 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think we need to hold up red cards to let the world know we don't want liquidation. Infact I think its absolutely ridiculous and will only be used by the filth as a point scorer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have no problem holding up a red card if everyone else is. I do think it's going to be a bit of a cringe-fest though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 That is a fair point BUT what is the problem in the support showing that we don't want that.I mean at the end of the day it is doing no harm.is it not a clear assumption we don't want that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Feeney Loyal 12 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm feeling a bit bewildered by the level of 'split' in our support. I'm not having a go at anyone as I don't really know the full facts behind these 'splits', just hints I've picked up from this forum.My take on the protest was 'I'm against liquidation, this seems to be a way of showing that'. Possibly naive, but I don't see any harm, even if I don't see that it will have any tangible effect on the bidding process. It will certainly have some effect though, bidders need the fans onside, and I believe the volume and ferocity of the twitter blitz on Club 9 led directly to their statement last night.Is the generally feeling of unease with TBK down to Paul Murrays involvement? Or Ticketus? Or percieved links with certain supporters groups? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgradeBear 27 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Indeed. You have supporters indicating that 'if your happy with liquidation you don't have to hold a card up'. Playground nonsense as I'm sure you agree.I'm the last person in support of liquidation - but I don't like anyone telling me what to do or how to think. Ever.I think we're all getting sick of everything. No one is being told what to do and for those at Ibrox who don't want to raise the Red Card then they need not do so. I do think that 99% of the crowd will be against liquidation so for me it's a worthwhile message to get across - especially in case any foreigner is even considering liquidating us to then make a quick buck.One thing that is becoming clear though: if we are liquidated there will be many different groups wanting to become the newco Rangers. Liquidation signifies the end of Rangers as we know it. I hope everyone at Ibrox can join together and raise the red card in objection to that and put petty differences aside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NessFTW 40 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What a ridiculous thread. 99% of people who see this protest aren't going to be thinking "I wonder what the intentions of the RST are with this one". All they'll see is 50,000 fans defiant that they don't want our club to go into liquidation. Should give us some good PR as well. This is not about the RST, it's simply them who is organising it. The anti-RST fanboys really need to give it a rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Once again this handful of wannabes that is rst, seem to think they are of importance in the overall ongoing scenario. Their history dictates that they should be ignored.history dictates we should ignore them at our peril. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have no problem holding up a red card if everyone else is. I do think it's going to be a bit of a cringe-fest though.I tend to agree but I am anti liquidation so I will hold it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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