caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It is difficult to evaluate bids without info, and the vacuum created by the lack of it has been exploited by some to create doubts. After all these doubts can't be shot down without knowing the truth.I am happy to get behind any PB, so long as they will be beneficial to the club. A lot of shite and innuendo has been posted about the various bids, but I'm sure once it's out in the open, most of the support will be like myself and get behind them.It seems Mini and TBK are desperate to buy the club, just not desperate enough to risk any money on it.They also don't seem to have any plan for liquidation.We will be royally fucked if they are in charge and it happens.You sounded so sincere too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Because clearly some fans are willing to jump in blindly behind them. D&P answers to the confidentiality of the bidders, not the want of SG's to be privy to every detail of the process. If the reply given to Kerr was in fact prompted by the initial statement, I think their reaction would've been more, "What're these fuckers on to now?" than "HOLY SHIT, THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW THE LID OFF OUR EVIL PLAN!"The supporters' groups have been disingenuous in their reporting of the facts regarding their position on the bids; surely they wouldn't do the same in regards to supposed feet dragging by the admins....That doesn't answer the question, but no matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It's non-refundable and doesn't guarantee that a deal will be done. There is also the question of where this money is going.Have never read anything as to the question of where this money is going!! Apart from people not in the know on here saying the administrators will pocket it.And I am fully aware it is non-refundable as is the case with all administrations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,729 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Have never read anything as to the question of where this money is going!! Apart from people not in the know on here saying the administrators will pocket it.And I am fully aware it is non-refundable as is the case with all administrations.It seems the ‘in thing’ at the minute; D&P are crooks and are dragging this out on purpose…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I believe all bidders (or certainly two of them) feel the fee is excessive and obviously doesn't guarantee a winning bid after the 14 days exclusivity period.Thus, as you mentioned last week, paying this can be seen as a gamble when other factors have not yet been delivered by the administrator. I'd fancy Craig Whyte remains a difficult obstacle.That is their choice as to the fee. I myself have withdrawn from bids that I felt did not warrant paying an exclusivity fee. Par for the course.craig whyte seems to make a living of placing himself in this position of being awkward, the nature of the bheast and all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Why bother pandering for points with the public? Because clearly some fans are willing to jump in blindly behind them.That doesn't answer the question, but no matter.Yeah, you're right. I avoided your question by answering it with the first sentence of my response and then building upon the reasons for that. Duck and dodge, mate. Duck and dodge. Playing a wee little role-playing game with supporters' hearts is clearly what the groups should be after. How many more rolls of the die until they ascend to the board room?They've got a lot of big talk to throw around but few answers for it when prodded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It seems the 'in thing' at the minute; D&P are crooks and are dragging this out on purpose…. This seems to be the thought of many from the moment the indicative bids were lodged. Could not believe 2 days or so after said bids mini was asking foe a decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This seems to be the thought of many from the moment the indicative bids were lodged. Could not believe 2 days or so after said bids mini was asking foe a decision.Yep, 'Duff and Phelps out' was even a post in one of the threads yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,729 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This seems to be the thought of many from the moment the indicative bids were lodged. Could not believe 2 days or so after said bids mini was asking foe a decision.One would almost think he had no idea how this whole process works, especially if he was providing figures which were incorrect….that should speed things up eh Paul? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Yeah, you're right. I avoided your question by answering it with the first sentence of my response and then building upon the reasons for that. Right, so some fans jump in blindly behind them. What does that do to increase the chance of preferred bidder status being awarded to TBK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Yep, 'Duff and Phelps out' was even a post in one of the threads yesterday. And they moan about the time it has taken to get to this stage. Even today they are back in court fighting to find out about other monies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 And they moan about the time it has taken to get to this stage. Even today they are back in court fighting to find out about other monies.Amazing that some still don't understand the mess David Murray, made worse by Craig Whyte, got us into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 One would almost think he had no idea how this whole process works, especially if he was providing figures which were incorrect….that should speed things up eh Paul?Exactly, as no doubt re his property business he has bought/bid from administrators or liquidators in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Right, so some fans jump in blindly behind them. What does that do to increase the chance of preferred bidder status being awarded to TBK?Fuck me........................................................................................................................................................................................Regardless of whether or not TBK is the preferred bidder and the SGs get to parade around Ibrox while we shower them with rose pedals, they are trying to play big dog on the block and make these BOLD statements that look like they're getting right stuck into those evil administrators taking millions of pounds out of our club. They are pandering for points to their own ends. They are being self-serving.I don't think I can explain that any more clearly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Amazing that some still don't understand the mess David Murray, made worse by Craig Whyte, got us into.Administration has been brewing for ages with the club and that is a fact. If it wasn't for the CL monies we would have faced this ages ago. Dare I say it , could have maybe been straight to liquidation as the Euro monies allowed the bank to reduce their debt.david murray is the one that turned the snowball into an avalanche and carved up various part of the company and got himself a knighthood as some sort of business genius , whilst borrowing and borrowing.That day as we all know came to a shuddering halt and more so the fact llloyds bought HBOS, I mean he was even under pressure when Halifax bought Bo S.The along comes whyte ............................................................history as they say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Fuck me........................................................................................................................................................................................Regardless of whether or not TBK is the preferred bidder and the SGs get to parade around Ibrox while we shower them with rose pedals, they are trying to play big dog on the block and make these BOLD statements that look like they're getting right stuck into those evil administrators taking millions of pounds out of our club. They are pandering for points to their own ends. They are being self-serving.I don't think I can explain that any more clearly.Ok, so Andy Kerr is doing this simply to boost his own ego and look good in front of the support and it is incidental to the bidding process which is going on. Thanks for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok, so Andy Kerr is doing this simply to boost his own ego and look good in front of the support and it is incidental to the bidding process which is going on. Thanks for that.Did I specify AK or did I say all the SGs? Again, stick to what I'm actually saying.These are the words of a group trying to be Billy Big Brass in front of the support:Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrust I must have imagined conference calls and updates from reps! The delays are an excuse for D&PRangers Supporters @rangersfctrust Read all the admin statements and what the bidders have said. It doesn't add up.Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrustYet to decided. We're hardly going announce our exact intentions when cards gave still to be played.Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrustWe're working on that along with other groups. Let's hope it doesnt come to that.But of course if you question them about their sources for making such bold statements re: the admin process then you're just devolving into name calling.AK's got more class than the lot of them put together, but the way they've composed themselves over the past 72 hours is shameful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Administration has been brewing for ages with the club and that is a fact. If it wasn't for the CL monies we would have faced this ages ago. Dare I say it , could have maybe been straight to liquidation as the Euro monies allowed the bank to reduce their debt.david murray is the one that turned the snowball into an avalanche and carved up various part of the company and got himself a knighthood as some sort of business genius , whilst borrowing and borrowing.That day as we all know came to a shuddering halt and more so the fact llloyds bought HBOS, I mean he was even under pressure when Halifax bought Bo S.The along comes whyte ............................................................history as they say.It's true, I said to my mum the other day we'd have got to this point eventually unless proper investment suddenly came in. Whyte has speeded up the process and made things more difficult, not for one second am I defending him, but administration was very much a possibility if he hadn't come in even if it didn't happen in February, it would have happened in the forseeable future. David Murray created this situation is over 20 years of owning us, and it sickens me he isn't held personally accountable in some way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Did I specify AK or did I say all the SGs? Again, stick to what I'm actually saying.These are the words of a group trying to be Billy Big Brass in front of the support:Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrust I must have imagined conference calls and updates from reps! The delays are an excuse for D&PRangers Supporters @rangersfctrust Read all the admin statements and what the bidders have said. It doesn't add up.Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrustYet to decided. We're hardly going announce our exact intentions when cards gave still to be played.Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrustWe're working on that along with other groups. Let's hope it doesnt come to that.But of course if you question them about their sources for making such bold statements re: the admin process then you're just devolving into name calling.AK's got more class than the lot of them put together, but the way they've composed themselves over the past 72 hours is shameful.You didn't specify anyone, but as they are all in it together, I picked one of the individuals involved. Obviously they will all be as implicit as each other for the crimes that you say they are guilty of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 You didn't specify anyone, but as they are all in it together, I picked one of the individuals involved. Obviously they will all be as implicit as each other for the crimes that you say they are guilty of.You're right, they are.No point of two blocks of wood arguing, mate. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It's true, I said to my mum the other day we'd have got to this point eventually unless proper investment suddenly came in. Whyte has speeded up the process and made things more difficult, not for one second am I defending him, but administration was very much a possibility if he hadn't come in even if it didn't happen in February, it would have happened in the forseeable future. David Murray created this situation is over 20 years of owning us, and it sickens me he isn't held personally accountable in some way.When would it have happened, and what would have been the event that caused it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Question question question Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 When would it have happened, and what would have been the event that caused it?Don't tell me you're seriously defending Murray now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Don't tell me you're seriously defending Murray now?Not unless you can point it out to me.Now, back to those questions..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Not unless you can point it out to me.Now, back to those questions.....He's away to ask his mum... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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