legalbeagle 3,734 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus must be sweating now. tbk can really squeeze them now.TBK can't squeeze ticketus in any way, shape or form, because they will need their money, or underwriting for years to come. The best way to squeeze ticketus is to tell them to sling their hook and get as much as they can from a CVA. Any money that ticketus get from Rangers which is more than the CVA penny in the pound agreement is money we don't have to pay them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'm more concerned how far ticketus have them bent over because I ain't confident about ticketus being involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus desperately need tbk now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Was either yourself or Casey who said it, I get both of you mixed up as the same person for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus desperately need tbk now.Why can't tbk just say sling it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbblue 167 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Always thought the name Blue Knights sounded like a group of male strippersRather that than a singular asset stripper! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus desperately need tbk now.So? If TBK can't fund the bid without ticketus, the power is only one way, if TBK can fund the bid without ticketus, then they should and leave ticketus with the rest of the creditors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Ticketus have leverage over Whyte in the form of personal guarantees. The are also vital as any CVA would require their agreement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlighter 14 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think people are getting really hung-up on 'TBK have no money' thing. Who else has really told us anything about how they are going to fund their bid? Ng claimed to be self funded, then we hear he was also talking to Ticketus just like TBK have.So far, the Yank has only told us what terms he is demanding but no details of how he is going to take the club forward as regards investment. The point being...i don't know how we can assume TBK don't have the necessary funding and yet none of the other bidders have told us Jack shit!FWIW,I doubt very much that whoever does get PB will not be planning to take us into debt in whatever guise it's dressed up as. Just my opinion, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryH 15 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Is it possible that TBK are playing down the level of money available to them to avoid paying out more to creditors, then when the club emerge from administration the big money men who untill then have remained unknown and in the background will step forward and pump some serious working capital into the club .. or is that just wishful thinking on my part ?Thats my thoughts too m8!! Been saying this for weeks!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockney69 48 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 So? If TBK can't fund the bid without ticketus, the power is only one way, if TBK can fund the bid without ticketus, then they should and leave ticketus with the rest of the creditors.Fully agreeJust what ive been thinking Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus desperately need tbk now.Yeah sure they do Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelrug 268 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I have heard rumours that one of TBK has links to a company called MacKenzie Hall. Had a google and they are a debt recovery company? Maybe they are getting primed to go after the 1st Murray and Whyte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Always thought the name Blue Knights sounded like a group of male strippersfukin stupid name. First it was the whyte knight, now its the blue knights. Whats next, the red knights?Hopefully its not - in the red knights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 fukin stupid name. First it was the whyte knight, now its the blue knights. Whats next, the red knights?Hopefully its not - in the red knights.Beginning to sound more like the Baron Knights Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Beginning to sound more like the Baron KnightsPost #33 for the knights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissg910 110 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ive got a feeling m bain is one of them and he will be back as ceo. who knows the club better??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiblue 18 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The Knight RIDERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,417 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I have heard rumours that one of TBK has links to a company called MacKenzie Hall. Had a google and they are a debt recovery company? Maybe they are getting primed to go after the 1st Murray and Whyte.Found this after googeling MacKenzie Hall and Blue Knights....Names a few of the Blue Knights if you guys couldn't find all the names already out there.http://www.<No links to this website>/football/spl/2012/03/16/rangers-in-crisis-a-guide-to-the-contenders-preparing-to-make-their-pitch-for-control-at-ibrox-86908-23790112/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 1 of them is Asian and has past links to the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 1 of them is Asian and has past links to the club.The EDL maniac guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertkay 39 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I have heard rumours that one of TBK has links to a company called MacKenzie Hall. Had a google and they are a debt recovery company? Maybe they are getting primed to go after the 1st Murray and Whyte.The Mack Hall previous owner (my old boss) Paul Mackenzie is involved. Sold Mackenzie Hall for £33m (approx) recently. Mackenzie Hall are whats known as a tertiary debt recovery company, which means more often than not they are the third company to chase a debt. They acquire the debt for a tiny sum because its what is known as statute barred, meaning it is effectively impossible to pursue legally (by that I mean through court action, the debt is always due). While this is all perfectly legal it is deemed by many in the industry as unfair as they apply pressure to "debtors" knowing it is not legally actionable, but threaten court action.Paul set up Mackenzie Hall after leaving Vodafone for alleged financial/operational discrepancies and is very much a self made man.I worked with him for over a year in close quarters and would not trust him 1 iota, having said that I can confirm, out of fairness to him, that he is a Rangers man.In a business sense he is very experienced, has cash and is perfect to be on the board. However, from my own experience experience, he will shit on anyone from a great height to get what he wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ticketus must be sweating now. tbk can really squeeze them now.There's an issue with this as I'm sure you know - it's called Whyte.Squeezing Ticketus is all very well, but something has to make Whyte hand his shares over. Ticketus themselves have acknowledge that the more they get, the more likely Whyte is to play ball.He does not want a liability to them over his guarantees for the Ticketus cash spent to date.Here's hoping Tannochside is right and a deal has been done to take us forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 There's an issue with this as I'm sure you know - it's called Whyte.Squeezing Ticketus is all very well, but something has to make Whyte hand his shares over. Ticketus themselves have acknowledge that the more they get, the more likely Whyte is to play ball.He does not want a liability to them over his guarantees for the Ticketus cash spent to date.Here's hoping Tannochside is right and a deal has been done to take us forward.I sense the Whyte factor could be getting dealt with; who knows though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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