nvager 498 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Staring us in the face now.What happens then - extinction or a newco?Will liquidation make us more attractive to new bidders or will it be the end of us?Will SFA and SPL sanctions apply to a newco? Looks like they may so will there be a newco? How could a newco start up with a transfer ban in place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonbear 3 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Good question. If we're a newco surely the fine and transfer embargo only apply to the oldco Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy 73 31 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Staring us in the face now.What happens then - extinction or a newco?Will liquidation make us more attractive to new bidders or will it be the end of us?Will SFA and SPL sanctions apply to a newco? Looks like they may so will there be a newco? How could a newco start up with a transfer ban in place?Lets go to the third division,and fill the stadium every two weeks!! That will show them all that we shall all stick together,,,and finish off the spl once and for all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionsAgain 1,373 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sure I read they are having a meeting on this on Monday. No doubt it will mean further fines and penalties if we go down this route. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 627 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Staring us in the face now.What happens then - extinction or a newco?Will liquidation make us more attractive to new bidders or will it be the end of us?Will SFA and SPL sanctions apply to a newco? Looks like they may so will there be a newco? How could a newco start up with a transfer ban in place?Not really,a bit closer yes, given up, not fucking yet!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hate to say it, but you could be right where we are heading, read one of the guys on Ernst&Jones saying the next 24 hours are critical for Rangers, but, we must believe! Whatever happens I hope we always remember what they did to us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottonRunt 972 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've been quite positive through this whole process. I'm starting to worry quite a lot that we won't have a club to support next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailbo 9 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 not sure how it would work but a newco is a new entity so you could argue that a transfer embargo hinders the new company,aswell as the fine plus we would be under SFL so its a tricky one Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think we now have to endure the unendurable whatever it takes to survive must be done but I'll tell you something now anyone who is a Bear at heart should never put another penny in the stinking sfa's lousy pocket Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 This word seems to fascinate so many on this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieEpsilon 0 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 There is one person who might be able to save us, hold on....BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceBEETLEJUICE!!Ah balls looks like we're fucked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,780 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 There is one person who might be able to save us, hold on....BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceBEETLEJUICE!!Ah balls looks like we're fuckedYou lot are fucking obsessed!Celtic FC 2011/12* Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Que sera sera.Bring it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Staring us in the face now.What happens then - extinction or a newco?Will liquidation make us more attractive to new bidders or will it be the end of us?Will SFA and SPL sanctions apply to a newco? Looks like they may so will there be a newco? How could a newco start up with a transfer ban in place?Don't understand how the sanctions(SFA/SPL) can apply to a new company? Can you help me out please mate. I thought liquidation was a clean slate, on everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Don't understand how the sanctions(SFA/SPL) can apply to a new company? Can you help me out please mate. I thought liquidation was a clean slate, on everything.If it happened the new company would buy all of Rangers history cups,name,brand etc and that would then be transfered over to the new parent company Rangers 2012 or whateverThe Football club will still be Rangers fc and as such any ban would be carried over as it has all the history etc like Leeds utd.But here is the BIG problem if the old Rangers 1889 company is liquidated we could lose all our players if they wanted to leave, we would then be unable to replace them with anyone.That would kill off Rangers fc all together and that is why this ban must be fought by the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If it happened the new company would buy all of Rangers history cups,name,brand etc and that would then be transfered over to the new parent company Rangers 2012 or whateverThe Football club will still be Rangers fc and as such any ban would be carried over as it has all the history etc like Leeds utd/But here is the BIG problem if the old Rangers 1889 company is liquidated we could lose all our players if they wanted to leave, we would then be unable to replace them with anyone.That would kill off Rangers fc all together and why this ban must be fought by the club.Thanks for that.So Murray and Whytes mistakes and mis-management gave our enemies perfect ammunition to finish us off. Makes sense now. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally62 393 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Thought they said on radio catholic last night that all the sanctions they're hitting us with the now transfer over to the newco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Liquidation is only considered an option if/when the money runs out.We're not far from that position.The SFA and SPL had better want what they wish for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Orange 84 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The SPHell are meeting to discuss new 'financial fair play rules' and also sanctions to be handed out to phoenix clubs who rise from the ashes of the old clubs who are forced down this route.I can't remember Airdrieonians being sanctioned when they went into liquidation and bought over Clydebank's registration, changed that club's name to Airdrie United, proceeded to relocate that club to Airdrie then change that club's strip to mimic the old diamonds of Airdrieonians.Can anyone else remember any sanctions placed on said club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Won't we need confirmation the bids are off the table before it's 'staring us in the face'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Orange 84 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The SPHell are meeting to discuss new financial 'fair play' rules and sanctions for phoenix clubs who rise from the ashes of the old clubs who are forced down this route.After Airdrieonians went into liquidation I can't remember Airdrie United facing sanctions when they bought over Clydebank's registration, changed that club's name to Airdrie United, moved the club to Airdrie then changed the club's strip to mimic the old diamonds of Airdrieonians.Can anyone else remember any punishments imposed on Airdrie United? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Orange 84 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sorry, double post. Received an error msg and didn't think the first worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekerrthebear 124 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 There is one person who might be able to save us, hold on....BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceBEETLEJUICE!!Ah balls looks like we're fuckedif i gave you a potato from my kitchen, would that make you stop posting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 signing ban applies to the newco according to the article I read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printz Smeto Bear 12 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The SPHell are meeting to discuss new financial 'fair play' rules and sanctions for phoenix clubs who rise from the ashes of the old clubs who are forced down this route.After Airdrieonians went into liquidation I can't remember Airdrie United facing sanctions when they bought over Clydebank's registration, changed that club's name to Airdrie United, moved the club to Airdrie then changed the club's strip to mimic the old diamonds of Airdrieonians.Can anyone else remember any punishments imposed on Airdrie United?I posted a topic last night about the possibility of Donald Findlay making Cowdenbeath available the same as Airdrie used Clydebank. Technically Cowdenbeath would be renamed Rangers Utd (or similar) and relocated to Ibrox so it would be their SFA history & registration which would continue so there would be no baggage from the liquidated Rangers FC. As a continuation of an existing club UEFA couldn't impose a 3 year ban, if the rebranded Cowdenbeath were to win the cup or finish high up the SPL in year 2!This would obviously be a wrench for many, given that the history of RFC would have to be temporarily abandoned and possibly the use of Ibrox at first too, if Whyte was being a dick or it was tied up in legal action for a while. Playing out of Hampden or Broadwood might be an option for a period in limbo. Within a few years memories would fade and the toxic association with RFC in terms of debt and sanctions would disappear, so like Airdrie the break in history would diminish in relevance since folk would just see a side with similar name, playing in the same colours in the same stadium and would naturally claim the unique history of its ancestor. The concept of buying it seems bizarre, as though history is a tradable commodity. In any case anything paying for it in name of goodwill or something would only go to Whyte or HMRC/Ticketus anyway and it aint theirs to sell - it belongs to the people who live it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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