Alnic3856 358 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 He wont pay more than £8.5 if he was going to do that then he would have bought it straight from the Admins, but since he didnt match Greens original £8.5 bid then chances are he aint going higher this time either, Green won't sell at that price so dead in the water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 opening bid! more to come. He knows Green's consortium want to sell.No he doesn't!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 He wont pay more than £8.5 if he was going to do that then he would have bought it straight from the Admins, but since he didnt match Greens original £8.5 bid then chances are he aint going higher this time either, Green won't sell at that price so dead in the water.How do you come to the conclusion his highest will be 8.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 mccoll says £6milliongreen says £20 millionhalfway agreement roughly £13millionORmccoll says £15milliongreen says £25millionhalfway agreement roughly £20millionto beat a cut throat businessman like green you've got to be cut-throat yourself. i suspect mccoll knows what he is doingThe club debt free even in it current condition is worth at least 30m. Green knows this, don't expect negotiations to go well if people make stupid offers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 he already faild with a £6m bid.Doubt a supposed billionaire would think ''i know, i'll bid the same again in case they forgot'' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 We as a club have enough shit to deal with in the coming weeks without another one of these BK bidding saga’s to deal with on top of things. McColl should know (if he doesn’t then should at least meet Green and or his people to discuss it) what is needed and equally should know the fans deserve it to be as painless and quick as possible if a deal is to be done. What I fear here is exactly what happened with TBK, making bids and trying to get fans onside to put pressure on people (D&P now Green) to accept the bid because it has Rangers men at the helm. We saw how that unfolded when trying to purchase our club on the cheap. We simply do not have the time for this kind of saga again, players need to know what is happening or they could pack up and go, fans need to know also. 99.9% of us would love it for Walter and his men to have our club because it seems a much safer bet than an unknown businessman who knows little to nothing about our club BUT in hindsight we had so called Rangers men at the helm before and look where we are today! I pray this is not a drawn out saga played out in the media because it will be excruciating and will split fans yet again, if it’s to happen then get it done and we can plan ahead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 mccoll says £6milliongreen says £20 millionhalfway agreement roughly £13millionORmccoll says £15milliongreen says £25millionhalfway agreement roughly £20millionto beat a cut throat businessman like green you've got to be cut-throat yourself. i suspect mccoll knows what he is doingYour two options have McColl bidding first and I never said that.If you read it again I said ask Green what he wants then go from there.A buyer never bids first unless it is derisory as in this case and is designed to get men round tables.And one other point, so called cut throat business never usually deal with people they think are taking the piss and quite frequently ask for more than they were willing to take as a lesson to the piss taker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm 16 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The initial target will be 125% (i'm basing this on experience) i.e. 10.6M Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NessFTW 40 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Wow totally never seen this coming How long before the bid is laughed at, rejected, and reports of "Y u no accept bid?!?" emanate from the press? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianbear007 15 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The guy is a billionaire. That's not in doubt.the real sickener for the septic scum is that jim's got more cash than despot desmond Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2102 577 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Your two options have McColl bidding first and I never said that.If you read it again I said ask Green what he wants then go from there.A buyer never bids first unless it is derisory as in this case and is designed to get men round tables.And one other point, so called cut throat business never usually deal with people they think are taking the piss and quite frequently ask for more than they were willing to take as a lesson to the piss taker.id agree with that last point to be fairbut green has already said what he wants, its been all over the papers and hes chancing it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 We as a club have enough shit to deal with in the coming weeks without another one of these BK bidding saga’s to deal with on top of things. McColl should know (if he doesn’t then should at least meet Green and or his people to discuss it) what is needed and equally should know the fans deserve it to be as painless and quick as possible if a deal is to be done. What I fear here is exactly what happened with TBK, making bids and trying to get fans onside to put pressure on people (D&P now Green) to accept the bid because it has Rangers men at the helm. We saw how that unfolded when trying to purchase our club on the cheap. We simply do not have the time for this kind of saga again, players need to know what is happening or they could pack up and go, fans need to know also. 99.9% of us would love it for Walter and his men to have our club because it seems a much safer bet than an unknown businessman who knows little to nothing about our club BUT in hindsight we had so called Rangers men at the helm before and look where we are today! I pray this is not a drawn out saga played out in the media because it will be excruciating and will split fans yet again, if it’s to happen then get it done and we can plan ahead."Go with us we are Rangers men through and through and only want whats best for the club, those other guys dont care about Rangers"Ok fair enough. Make a good bid buy the club and make everyone happy all in the one go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 And people want us to protest for this rubbish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NessFTW 40 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 And people want us to protest for this rubbish?We'd be better protesting to tell them to put up the cash or GTF. All they're doing is causing instability within the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo 1,433 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Nothing will be happening until we know which league we're playing in and who's in the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 We'd be better protesting to tell them to put up the cash or GTF. All they're doing is causing instability within the club.Indeed, I don't see how we even have time for long negotiations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Embarrassing bid if true.Get round the table. That should be our Mantra - Smith et al and Green - get round the table and get it sortedSFA/ Rangers - get round the table and get it sortedSPL Chairmen/Rangers - get round the table and get it sortedIts time for some sensible head thinking and no more postulating - lets get back to football and ONE of the things we need to do - everyone - is stop fighting our corner and - get round the table and get a solution! Side note: I wonder if ACAS would be a way to go for the SPL / Us / SFA! some sort of professional mediation / negotiation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ohh goody, the roundabout has been set spinning again !!!We have been here before folks, there is a value that the seller wants, obviously there will be haggling involved but why would you offer sucha derisory low figure which will be laughed straight out of court & actually gives some (well, me !!) the impression that you aren't actually serious about this at all.The Blue Knights did exactly the same thing, talked a great game, went to the press & the support to get them onside & backing them, getting them to apply pressure to the seller (administrator) so as they could get the club for less than other parties were willing to pay.Here we have McColl et al, running to the press, badmouthing Green & using the fans to apply pressure that will allow them to get the club for a lot less than it's worth.If you value the club so much & a desperate to ensure its ongoing survival, then you do what needs to be done, you submit a bid that can't be ignored !!It's not a difficult leap to conclude that Green wants £20m but would likely take somewhere between £12-15m, so why not bid at £10m to begin with, start at the figure the sellers say it has cost them THEN negotiate. You are at least offering to cover their costs, showing the seller & the support that it's a serious bid, from that point you play hardball.Why do I feel this saga will continue for weeks ... to-ing & fro-ing, article & counter article in the press, each appealing to the support that their bid is the best one around.All the while, the club is not moving forward, the club is stagnating & there is no figurehead to negotiate, how can you negotiate with SFA etc if you might not be the owner 2 weeks from now.A terrible fate for a business is to make the wrong decision, the worst fate for a business is to make no decision at all !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Dave King reckons only people who are not in it for self gain can run Rangers as we are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeonBlue 378 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 It's like the CVA madness all over again. I expect Kennedy to submit a £4m bid by the close of play now. Based on us reaching the final of the CL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 the real sickener for the septic scum is that jim's got more cash than despot desmondBut unfortunately much deeper pockets if we are to believe this bid has been made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 We as a club have enough shit to deal with in the coming weeks without another one of these BK bidding saga’s to deal with on top of things. McColl should know (if he doesn’t then should at least meet Green and or his people to discuss it) what is needed and equally should know the fans deserve it to be as painless and quick as possible if a deal is to be done. What I fear here is exactly what happened with TBK, making bids and trying to get fans onside to put pressure on people (D&P now Green) to accept the bid because it has Rangers men at the helm. We saw how that unfolded when trying to purchase our club on the cheap. We simply do not have the time for this kind of saga again, players need to know what is happening or they could pack up and go, fans need to know also. 99.9% of us would love it for Walter and his men to have our club because it seems a much safer bet than an unknown businessman who knows little to nothing about our club BUT in hindsight we had so called Rangers men at the helm before and look where we are today! I pray this is not a drawn out saga played out in the media because it will be excruciating and will split fans yet again, if it’s to happen then get it done and we can plan ahead.There is much merit in this.I see it's now officially McColls bid and not actually Walters.This offer if true, is derisory, they know it is derisory, but hope to ramp up the pressure to steal the club from Green.I very much doubt Green will sell it for anything less than £12m, so we'll see a huge increase in stories slating Green and demonising him as the big greedy baddie.This whole McColl saga is leaving a bad taste in the mouth and you have to wonder if they are the sort of people we want in the club. Walter has already indicated he isn't going to be involved post-sale, and is just a figurehead on the bid.I want Walter, I don't want TBK2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ever heard of haggling?Ask him what he wants and meets somewhere in the middle.All happy win, win. Thats good business with all parties appeased.The business you like is the vulture capitalist method of low bids and dodgy tactics.We are Rangers and should be better than that imo.Had enough bad business to last a lifetime at the club.Wont haggle. . . . BERT!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 "Go with us we are Rangers men through and through and only want whats best for the club, those other guys dont care about Rangers"Ok fair enough. Make a good bid buy the club and make everyone happy all in the one go.I cannot possibly say that the owners do not care about Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 With a bid of that magnitude he must have the full financial backing of the Blue Knights Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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