stewart1969 16 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 All Ally McCoist wants is details on who owns Rangers.If Ally gets the written assurances he has asked for he will then call on fans to buy season tickets.Charles Green can end John Brown's investigation by taking him to court for all the serious allegations made.He will not be doing any such thing though.Charles Green has until the end of the month to produce the 20 million promised.I believe he guaranteed 30 million but that changed once we knew SPL was not an option.I believe he then promised 20 million by the end of the month.Hopefully this will not be a bank loan in the name of Rangers.The 11 million alleged to have been invested is hopefully not a bank loan in the name of our club either.John Brown hosted a meeting on Sunday for supporters clubs and groups.A huge number of ex players were in attendance and an even bigger number also submitted their support in writing and apologies for not making the meeting.John Brown gave a short presentation and this covered his proposals as well as the current board situation and their takeover.Since the the formation of Newco Sevco and the £5.5 buyout,Rangers have lost a huge sum of money as a result of players leaving the club as well as losing the SPL place and the SFA license.All youth players and their parents are worried sick about their future now that the players have become free agents with no clarification of their contract situation.Were redundancies outlined to staff on Monday night?Before investment of the 20 million?At the recent RFFF Ally McCoist could not ask all fans to buy season tickets as the doesnt fully trust the new board yet. With regards to Bomber's plans, he will set up an independant bank account this week for investors to pay into.The plan is for wealthy people and ex players to contribute £40k each to reach £10m to buy out Charles Green's consortium.Fans would be asked to pay a yearly £100 membership after full details of Bomber's investors were produced.Season tickets sales of around £12m to £14m as well as sponsorship and commercial deals would top up the investment.None of this would happen until full disclosure.The essential aim of the project is to remove Charles Green and Craig Whyte and protect the assets and build the club back up again.Charles Green will own 10% of Rangers after a successful stock market floatation with AIM.John Brown is 100% certain that Craig Whyte is pulling the strings behind Charles Green and that they are in it together and anyone who supports "Green" is being disloyal to the Club.Douglas Park and Jim McColl were offered 50% of the new company for £6m and then when they asked for documentation proof, they were never supplied with this.Why?John is 100% certain that Craig Whyte is detailed in a signed letter with the first charge over the assets.Charles Green can take John Brown to court over allegations of Whyte's role.John asked Charles Green after the recent RFFF meeting to see the documents and Charles Green agreed to this. John has since left 18 messages for Malclom Murray to arrange the meeting and this has not yet happened.Anyone who thinks the documents brought to the meeting are enough evidence is deluded.John wants the names behind the names behind the names of any front company listed.As does Ally McCoist.John is unsure of the cost to buy the club from Charles Green as they have not yet got round the table to discuss fees.It is not known if their is a price to be met as well as the undertaking to meet Craig Whyte's demands thus ensuring he comes out of it safe and sound from any debt collectors chasing undisclosed agreements with for example Ticketus.Any potential deal will have to take into account the Ticketus debt and that this may be repaid over 10-20 years.Should any new buyer not take this debt of over 20 million on then no deal.There are 1 or 2 possible bids going in for the club this week.John Brown is not the only one trying to save the club.When John did meet Malcolm Murray recently, MM was not aware of a bid of £8.7m made to Charles Green the previous day.Going forward, John would offer Ally McCoist a 5 year contract, pay back all of the small creditors of the oldco and give back the debentures to the former owners of these.His structure of the new set up would make sure that they ring fenced the major assets - Training ground, stadium and car park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Another thread on this? check out the other 50 or so in the Bears Den, you might learn something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Where do you start with that pile of pish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1,150 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The only part of all that that I can play a difference in is the purchase of my season ticket, and attending Ibrox and away game where possible to support the team.Ally McCoist said himself that were he in the fans shoes at the moment, he would be buying his season ticket, and that he couldn't ask fans not to buy them. Its supporting the club, not an individual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,952 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks for the info, Mr Brown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why should Green show Brown anything?Who is John Brown to question the part-owner and CEO of the club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 You sir are getting boring regurgitating the same old shite. :wanker: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawdeepLoyal 94 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have said before I am surprised that Green does not call Bombers bluff as it was, show all the info publicly and then sell 30,000 season tickets the next day!!None of it makes any sense at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why doesn't Brown show us some proof. The onus is on him as the accuser.Would Green producing a list of names really end the debate ?Do you think he's that fucking stupid. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The only part of all that that I can play a difference in is the purchase of my season ticket, and attending Ibrox and away game where possible to support the team.Ally McCoist said himself that were he in the fans shoes at the moment, he would be buying his season ticket, and that he couldn't ask fans not to buy them. Its supporting the club, not an individual.This 100%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super1872 469 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Dae us a favour and be quiet eh?Same old paranoid ramblings "he wants names behind names behind names" what about the names behind those names? Honestly why we need another thread about this despite the fact theres nothing new to report on the non viable non bid that bomber hasn't got together yet.But well done on trying to stir up some more discontent and confusion amongst supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yawn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick1271 533 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I wrote a big long post going through your statement pouring scorn and derision on it unfortunately while trying to post it I deleted it by mistake instead . Can't be arsed doing it again as I would be wasting both our time . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,086 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 A pretty good summation of what has happened so far for a new poster, obviously somebody in the know, very good ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,082 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 John Brown is not the only one trying to save the club.bwahahahaha...You seriously believe this. John Brown has done nothing but cause problems for our club while showing nothing in return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ally McCoist has not demanded to know anything, and using his name to try and turn the fans towards the John Brown cause is as shameful as most of the other tactics being employed by whoever is pulling the strings. To be honest, the lack of money and the scaremongering seems to suggest Paul Murray, but who knows, maybe if John Brown would reveal his backers, some people might take his 'bid' seriously. He might be able to get a nice corporate box for his £40k at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 More shit some of our fans really need to pack this shit in.FFS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 John browns as thick as shite in the neck of a milk bottle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 What a suprise it has been posted by a newish account aswell.Same old shit different day, and the sad thing is it is from fellow fans aswell that cant think for themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiadreamin52 339 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Does no one other than the SFA want to know who the owners of Rangers are strange that as supporters we are willing to through money at Rangers without accountability or who the recipient of our cash are Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quick calculation, Bomber wants 250 ex players/ fans to invest 40,000 a head to make up the initial 10m. He then takes 100 quid from as many fans as possible. That seems to be enough to make a bid if he can raise it. But then who provides the working capital? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 At the recent RFFF Ally McCoist could not ask all fans to buy season tickets as the doesnt fully trust the new board yet. one of many lies posted in your OP, Ally said he couldnt rightly ask fans to buy season books without knowing which league they would be playing in.he was then asked "would he buy a season book right now" and he said "yes"take yer agenda and fuck off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayq81 231 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Bomber blah brown blah ticketus blah whyte blah green blah ...........its like listening to fucking static Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,127 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Where do you start with that pile of pish?By getting the OP to understand paragraphs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The simple answer is that for some Charles Green can do nothing to end the debate ... some people just refuse to listen and when won avenue closes the find another and another and another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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