simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 How the Hell am I supposed to answer that? As long as it takes.So do you not think that at any point enough could be enough? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 What about when the forwards put our back line under pressure? Or should we just play triangles and head tennis til they get bored and tired then score 5 goals?Sorry for the attitude. Just frustrated with the consensus about this topic.Well why don't we take the easy pass, try to advance with the ball with possession?But no, it appears that a long ball to literally no-one is the better choice.Frustrated? I'm with you, but by christ I'm not going to sit here and blame everyone but Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 They seem perfectly fine at home, but away from Ibrox is a different matter.But no worry, deflect the blame from McCoist. Don't want to upset anything So,in short,you have no answer to my questions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 You are certainly not alone in your opinion. It's gathering more weight after each away game.This may sound crazy but we were not great against East Stirling last week at home either despite the score and i noticed many fans around me aiming abuse at the manager and players. The warnings have been there for some time. DerekMc1972 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I think I'll hit depression if our football keeps up like this. beattie72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 So,in short,you have no answer to my questions?I'm not getting paid £6000-£10000 a week to give you an answer.Ally is, and away from home, he simply isn't good enough to provide it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I believe tarriers are demanding we make Ally a contract offer for life, apparantly they are loving him being in charge of our club. Laughing at us they are. Well obviously you care what they think. The majority of us DON'T. DerekMc1972 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I'd tell Alexander to find a pass instead of lumping it to no-one to start with...It would be nice to start from the back, move the ball around and keep possession. Swansea scored a goal yesterday which started from the keeper and went right through their whole team until it found a striker. Right across the back 4, to a midfielder, to another one and another, onto a winger and into the goalscorer, it was sublime. I must admit i am getting sick of seeing our goalkeeper and defenders lumping that ball up to no-one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Agree with giving him time, but your talk about the pre season is utter nonsense. Did Berwick have a pre season tour? No. So you can stroke that pish excuse off the list.Yes players need games in order to gel and work as a team instead of individuals. But even as individuals, the players should be putting in better performances than today's one. We train full time, the players have the opportunity then to gel and come together, as well as competitive matches.Did Berwick build a new team virtually from scratch? Were not even a team at the moment, we're a collection of strangers thrown into circumstances none of them have experienced before. I don't know what it is people expect? If you stand back and look at it objectively it's a wonder we haven't lost yet.'Yes players need games in order to gel and work as a team instead of individuals'Yes, yes they do. We aren't the first team to experience significant teething problems after building a new team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Well obviously you care what they think. The majority of us DON'T.That is not obvious at all nor do you speak for the majority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I've been to every game but today and Peterhead. Does that make my opinion of today more or less valid? Help me out, I'm confused.When you have a collection of strangers, deprived of a pre-season and any chance to work on team cohesion and throw them into circumstances way beyond any of their experience then I'm afraid consistency is going to be hard to achieve. I really don't know what the Hell you expect?As for Ally, he has been manager of a settled team for 6 months during his tenure. We were playing great football at the start of last season and we were streets ahead in the League. Then the rug gets removed from under his feet as his best player is sold to Everton and his 2nd best player picks up a long term injury.....and that's all before Administration when he really was working with two hands tied behind his back. Give the man some time, he deserves at least that.This^^^^^^^^ 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 So do you not think that at any point enough could be enough?I'm not sure where you pulled that from? We aren't anywhere near that point, whenever it may be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Tell you what the worst thing is.....Five minutes to go, we're defending a corner with eleven players in our box. No-one sitting on the halfway line for a counter, no-one sitting in the middle of the park for a header out.Every single player - including those shorter than 5'6 - in the penalty box to defend.Ally...you're not Walter Smith, please try and be your own man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 It would be nice to start from the back, move the ball around and keep possession. Swansea scored a goal yesterday which started from the keeper and went right through their whole team until it found a striker. Right across the back 4, to a midfielder, to another one and another, onto a winger and into the goalscorer, it was sublime. I must admit i am getting sick of seeing our goalkeeper and defenders lumping that ball up to no-one.As is said earlier, is this instructions from McCoist or are the players just doing what they want. At the end of the day if the team aint preforming the buck stop with the management. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Not me.I know for a fact he's a Muslim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Well why don't we take the easy pass, try to advance with the ball with possession?But no, it appears that a long ball to literally no-one is the better choice.Frustrated? I'm with you, but by christ I'm not going to sit here and blame everyone but Ally.That's the difference. I'm not blaming anyone. It was a bad performance and a bad result. You're only as good as your next game. So focusing on the falkirk cup game would be my tactics for this week Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 They seem perfectly fine at home, but away from Ibrox is a different matter.But no worry, deflect the blame from McCoist. Don't want to upset anything If you were at the East Stirling match mate you will know at home we are not fine either and that was with a 5-1 win. That wee team just caved in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Did Berwick build a new team virtually from scratch? Were not even a team at the moment, we're a collection of strangers thrown into circumstances none of them have experienced before. I don't know what it is people expect? If you stand back and look at it objectively it's a wonder we haven't lost yet.'Yes players need games in order to gel and work as a team instead of individuals'Yes, yes they do. We aren't the first team to experience significant teething problems after building a new team.We are the first team I know of to struggle so much against part time footballers who only train twice a week.This is not SPL teams we are facing, it's guys who have actual jobs and play football as a hobby. We have SPL quality players and some internatonal players who should be playing better football.We can use pre season, time to gel, the ball, the park ect as an excuse as much as we want but the warnings in regards to our away perfromances has been here for a very long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Tell you what the worst thing is.....Five minutes to go, we're defending a corner with eleven players in our box. No-one sitting on the halfway line for a counter, no-one sitting in the middle of the park for a header out.Every single player - including those shorter than 5'6 - in the penalty box to defend.Ally...you're not Walter Smith, please try and be your own man.Been banging on that particular drum since 'The Cardiganed One' had the gig.Drives me fucking potty. So potty I START TO USE CAPITALS MID-SENTENCE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 As is said earlier, is this instructions from McCoist or are the players just doing what they want. At the end of the day if the team aint preforming the buck stop with the management.If McCoist is telling them to pass about, the players deserve the sack as they're not following his lead.If McCoist is telling them to play it long at all times - then the guy simply deserves the boot. We are literally embarrassing to watch away from home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I'm not sure where you pulled that from? We aren't anywhere near that point, whenever it may be.Promotion is of utmost urgency, it's not in peril yet obviously but we need to start winning games home AND away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 There needs to be positive signs to demand time, there isn't a great deal of signs from McCoist to show that time will improve anything. He needs to stop trying to be Walter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I'm not getting paid £6000-£10000 a week to give you an answer.Ally is, and away from home, he simply isn't good enough to provide it.But,surely,the way you are mouthing off you must have an idea as how to solve our problems?Again,who are the players that Ally is leaving out that you think would improve us?We are chock full of journeymen and youngsters.We must bring in,at least, 4 players this week but,Im afraid they will be of the same quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 If you were at the East Stirling match mate you will know at home we are not fine either and that was with a 5-1 win. That wee team just caved in.I was there mate.Beating a team that was just off the night-shift isn't a flagpole for me, we were still depressingly poor for a lot of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Promotion is of utmost urgency, it's not in peril yet obviously but we need to start winning games home AND away.It's August. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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