All the negativity

[AlBear. 8,499]

To me, Ally McCoist is Mr

All the negativity over Ally's management, tactics, players just makes my support for him stronger.

All the doom sayers and pessimists can't see their argument is ridiculous. Judging Coisty after 3 league games. So, they lump in last season. A season where our chairman was a wee little shit pot who is now under investigation from the authorities for tax evasion and other nefarious dealings.

Ally did a fucking fantastic job to secure 2nd so we could utilise the most amount of prize money as we headed to a CVA. They bring up the failings, losses, poor decisions and convienantly (for their argument) ignore the fact that Ally was the ONLY man to stand up for Rangers during this horrible, gut wrenching time in our history. If they can't see fit to give him a season TO REBUILD not just a team or a squad but our WHOLE club then in my opinion, they have to look in the mirror and ask themselves WHY they are a Rangers supporter.

ALLY is our shining light. So how about you gie him a break and lay off the polls and negative McCoist threads.

If you can't support the team fully NOW, then what are you doing here?

Ally deserves our respect and admiration for what he did for our Club in 2012. He is rightly deserving of Legendary status for what he did for Rangers as a player. And he deserves a full fucking season without arseholes doubting his every decision or a chairman trying to destroy our club from the inside.

:superally:

HE WILL SHOW YOU WHY WE CALL HIM SUPER!

[simplythebest 11,453]

That's nice.

[AlBear. 8,499]

That's nice.

See in life it is always better to be positive than negative. Thanks for putting me back on the right path pal

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

To me, Ally McCoist is Mr

All the negativity over Ally's management, tactics, players just makes my support for him stronger.

All the doom sayers and pessimists can't see their argument is ridiculous. Judging Coisty after 3 league games. So, they lump in last season. A season where our chairman was a wee little shit pot who is now under investigation from the authorities for tax evasion and other nefarious dealings.

Ally did a fucking fantastic job to secure 2nd so we could utilise the most amount of prize money as we headed to a CVA. They bring up the failings, losses, poor decisions and convienantly (for their argument) ignore the fact that Ally was the ONLY man to stand up for Rangers during this horrible, gut wrenching time in our history. If they can't see fit to give him a season TO REBUILD not just a team or a squad but our WHOLE club then in my opinion, they have to look in the mirror and ask themselves WHY they are a Rangers supporter.

ALLY is our shining light. So how about you gie him a break and lay off the polls and negative McCoist threads.

If you can't support the team fully NOW, then what are you doing here?

Ally deserves our respect and admiration for what he did for our Club in 2012. He is rightly deserving of Legendary status for what he did for Rangers as a player. And he deserves a full fucking season without arseholes doubting his every decision or a chairman trying to destroy our club from the inside.

:superally:

HE WILL SHOW YOU WHY WE CALL HIM SUPER!

People blindly laying into Coisty with personal attacks and saying he's not a manager deserve a smack in the bollocks

People who are concerned with us being schooled by a part time side and questioning our tactics away from home should be allowed their debate.

There's a difference.

We all love Super, we would all love him to succeed. But you cannot knock people who have concerns. The trick is getting the right balance between fandom of our idol, Mr Alastair McCoist and concern for the direction of the football club

[AlBear. 8,499]

People blindly laying into Coisty with personal attacks and saying he's not a manager deserve a smack in the bollocks

People who are concerned with us being schooled by a part time side and questioning our tactics away from home should be allowed their debate.

There's a difference.

We all love Super, we would all love him to succeed. But you cannot knock people who have concerns. The trick is getting the right balance between fandom of our idol, Mr Alastair McCoist and concern for the direction of the football club

Is one season enough then? One season of not calling for his head, or doubting every decision, tactic, player. Can all the pessimists and doom and gloom merchants just wait one year.

Coz it will be a lot harder to get rid of Coisty after we win the league by 20+ points. Or would that still not be enough for some?

EDIT: PS- This Topic was supppose to be a bit of a for Super. You struggled to remain positive there pal.

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

Is one season enough then? One season of not calling for his head, or doubting every decision, tactic, player. Can all the pessimists and doom and gloom merchants just wait one year.

Coz it will be a lot harder to get rid of Coisty after we win the league by 20+ points. Or would that still not be enough for some?

EDIT: PS- This Topic was supppose to be a bit of a for Super. You struggled to remain positive there pal.

If you grow up and open yourself up to debate, people will take you more seriously as a poster. I love Ally but frankly I think you are a muppet if you don't think there's even an inch of space for debate after we drew, and almost lost, to a bunch of part-timers.

I agree in a way that he deserves time and that we will end up winning the league comfortably but again, you are naive if you think certain things will be accepted by all Rangers fans.

You won't hear me calling for anyone's head after this amount of time but this is Rangers, with pretty much the most demanding fans i've ever known, so make no mistake, Ally will come under immense pressure should he not win the league comfortably. It's the nature of Rangers football club, always striving to be the best it can. Super Ally will be fully aware of this.

[AlBear. 8,499]

If you grow up and open yourself up to debate, people will take you more seriously as a poster. I love Ally but frankly I think you are a muppet if you don't think there's even an inch of space for debate after we drew, and almost lost, to a bunch of part-timers.

I agree in a way that he deserves time and that we will end up winning the league comfortably but again, you are naive if you think certain things will be accepted by all Rangers fans.

You won't hear me calling for anyone's head after this amount of time but this is Rangers, with pretty much the most demanding fans i've ever known, so make no mistake, Ally will come under immense pressure should he not win the league comfortably. It's the nature of Rangers football club, always striving to be the best it can. Super Ally will be fully aware of this.

How will we know if he will win league comfortably or not if people are discussing if he should leave already. Not sure why I'm getting pelters for supporting My Hero and My Club. I thought this was a Rangers forum. But as soon as anyone makes a statement of loyalty to Super or Rangers they are called muppet, or looney, or deluded. I guess in RM, as in life, you just can't win them all.

We sick an' tired of-a your ism-skism game -

Dyin' 'n' goin' to heaven in-a Jesus' name, Lord.

We know when we understand:

Almighty God is a living man.

You can fool some people sometimes,

But you can't fool all the people all the time.

So now we see the light (What you gonna do?),

We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!)

So you better:

Get up, stand up! (In the morning! Git it up!)

Stand up for your rights! (Stand up for our rights!)

Get up, stand up!

Don't give up the fight! (Don't give it up, don't give it up!)

Get up, stand up! (Get up, stand up!)

Stand up for your rights! (Get up, stand up!)

Get up, stand up! ( ... )

Don't give up the fight! (Get up, stand up!)

Get up, stand up! ( ... )

Stand up for your rights!

Get up, stand up!

Don't give up the fight!

[El Carpintero 546]

What Rangers fan doesn't love Super Ally? He was God to any Rangers fan who was lucky enough to see the man bang the goals in every week. The club, Bastard Murray and Mr Smith have forced a difficult job onto Ally, how could he knock it back? The club and fans must have been pulling at his every heart string to accept and by God he will not walk away now no matter how hard it gets for him. We couldn't get a more Rangers minded man to manage our club but what we need to seperate is Super Ally our legendary player and Mr McCoist our Rangers manager. Fans must be given an avenue to praise and criticise as they see fit and all this bickering and point scoring over Ally is doing no one any good. I am 100% certain Ally knows things are not going our way just now but make no mistake, he will be doing everything in his power to make us successful again. As a support we must show dignity, class and patience. :superally:

[skinnymate1690 772]

I have a question and I don't want this taken the wrong way because i love ally but I keep hearing things like "we wouldn't even be a club anymore without ally" and " the things ally has done for this club since February " what has he done exactly ? He worked for free which was a fantastic gesture and stood by the club . So did some players if the player and all the staff including durrant McDowell etc but they don't get half the praise . Fs look at broadfoot , people basically had a fucking party after finding out he was being released , but he stood by us through all this as well

Ally's on and only job is to manage the team and get results and to be honest he isn't doing very well at the moment . He should not be immune to critisizm .

[loyalfollower 1,543]

Super has my backing as a manager for a while yet because I want him to get us back at the top of scotland. Because I love the guy doesnt mean I cant criticise when its due.

Not all great players make it as great managers. I think if coisty came on here he would agree with some of it the long ball etc.

Take away kevin kyle and add macleod and mackay hes brought in tidy players. So why is it like watching the local pub play?

Hell maybe hes just experimenting as we have time on our side I dont know, but for me sunday was worse than any game under mcleish

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

How will we know if he will win league comfortably or not if people are discussing if he should leave already. Not sure why I'm getting pelters for supporting My Hero and My Club. I thought this was a Rangers forum. But as soon as anyone makes a statement of loyalty to Super or Rangers they are called muppet, or looney, or deluded. I guess in RM, as in life, you just can't win them all.

We sick an' tired of-a your ism-skism game -

Dyin' 'n' goin' to heaven in-a Jesus' name, Lord.

We know when we understand:

Almighty God is a living man.

You can fool some people sometimes,

But you can't fool all the people all the time.

So now we see the light (What you gonna do?),

We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!)

So you better:

Get up, stand up! (In the morning! Git it up!)

Stand up for your rights! (Stand up for our rights!)

Get up, stand up!

Don't give up the fight! (Don't give it up, don't give it up!)

Get up, stand up! (Get up, stand up!)

Stand up for your rights! (Get up, stand up!)

Get up, stand up! ( ... )

Don't give up the fight! (Get up, stand up!)

Get up, stand up! ( ... )

Stand up for your rights!

Get up, stand up!

Don't give up the fight!

Your getting pelters because you refuse to accept that others can be worried by a poor start to the season!

We all love Super Ally, we all want him to do well. We all support him. He's my fucking hero. But if he takes Rangers down a road where we are playing awful football or not gaining promotion from a truly awful league, with a team full of SPL players, then I know that i'll have to put aside my feelings for Ally McCoist, my hero, and assess whether his managerial talents are good enough to be our manager.

But you seem unwilling to discuss the idea that people are allowed to be concerned by draws with part-time football teams.

You seem to take everything as personal attacks. They are not. Someone questioning our tactics and his tactical nous is not the same as calling for his head, as much as you may claim that to be the case.

Can you not debate healthily with folk rather than being blindly loyal? If we continued with our away form for the next couple of months, would you still remain unconcerned?

[AlBear. 8,499]

I have a question and I don't want this taken the wrong way because i love ally but I keep hearing things like "we wouldn't even be a club anymore without ally" and " the things ally has done for this club since February " what has he done exactly ? He worked for free which was a fantastic gesture and stood by the club . So did some players if the player and all the staff including durrant McDowell etc but they don't get half the praise . Fs look at broadfoot , people basically had a fucking party after finding out he was being released , but he stood by us through all this as well

Ally's on and only job is to manage the team and get results and to be honest he isn't doing very well at the moment . He should not be immune to critisizm .

I don't believe this. After everything we've been through I truly believe Ally should be immune to criticism this season.

We survived CW, administration, liquidation, prejudice sanctions and being bumped down 3 leagues.

But lets ALL get on Ally's back because he drew 2 away games to 3rd Div teams. Sorry I'll back Ally to the hilt. Perhaps I'm being so protective over him due to the (imo) ridiculous discussions over when he should leave or what would make him leave.

Looks like my dream of a Topic bout Ally that is only Good things failed. Fine enjoy the whinging, can't say I am though.

[AlBear. 8,499]

Your getting pelters because you refuse to accept that others can be worried by a poor start to the season!

We all love Super Ally, we all want him to do well. We all support him. He's my fucking hero. But if he takes Rangers down a road where we are playing awful football or not gaining promotion from a truly awful league, with a team full of SPL players, then I know that i'll have to put aside my feelings for Ally McCoist, my hero, and assess whether his managerial talents are good enough to be our manager.

But you seem unwilling to discuss the idea that people are allowed to be concerned by draws with part-time football teams.

You seem to take everything as personal attacks. They are not. Someone questioning our tactics and his tactical nous is not the same as calling for his head, as much as you may claim that to be the case.

Can you not debate healthily with folk rather than being blindly loyal? If we continued with our away form for the next couple of months, would you still remain unconcerned?

But you're judging him "Not gaining promotion" from 2 away draws in August. I must be mentally screwed up, Coz I think thats ludicrous. (please don't say, "It's last season aswell, that's more ludicrous imo)

Oh, Hold On. The men in white coats are here for me. See ya guys

[El Carpintero 546]

Alex, is that you?

[skinnymate1690 772]

I don't believe this. After everything we've been through I truly believe Ally should be immune to criticism this season.

We survived CW, administration, liquidation, prejudice sanctions and being bumped down 3 leagues.

But lets ALL get on Ally's back because he drew 2 away games to 3rd Div teams. Sorry I'll back Ally to the hilt. Perhaps I'm being so protective over him due to the (imo) ridiculous discussions over when he should leave or what would make him leave.

Looks like my dream of a Topic bout Ally that is only Good things failed. Fine enjoy the whinging, can't say I am though.

So in your opinion. Because of what we have been through are jig, Boca , Alexander , little, Wallace etc , the ones that stayed , are they immune from critisizm as well ?

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

But you're judging him "Not gaining promotion" from 2 away draws in August. I must be mentally screwed up, Coz I think thats ludicrous. (please don't say, "It's last season aswell, that's more ludicrous imo)

Oh, Hold On. The men in white coats are here for me. See guys

Stop being so defensive just because everyone isn't as 'loyal' as you.

I stated, in reply to someone else claiming that Ally would remain in a job even if we didn't get promotion, that I believed this to be totally untrue. That, in the unlikely case we don't win the league, Ally would either walk from the job, knowing he hasn't done good enough, or the club would sack him. I don't believe this to be a particularly shocking idea and i'm quite sure most Rangers fans would not accept us remaining in this league for another year, with the players we have onboard.

I categorically did not suggest that we will not get promoted because we drew our first two away games, that is untrue, I simply replied to someone putting across the idea that he'd remain in a job should he not gain promotion.

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

I don't believe this. After everything we've been through I truly believe Ally should be immune to criticism this season.

We survived CW, administration, liquidation, prejudice sanctions and being bumped down 3 leagues.

But lets ALL get on Ally's back because he drew 2 away games to 3rd Div teams. Sorry I'll back Ally to the hilt. Perhaps I'm being so protective over him due to the (imo) ridiculous discussions over when he should leave or what would make him leave.

Looks like my dream of a Topic bout Ally that is only Good things failed. Fine enjoy the whinging, can't say I am though.

Alistair McCoist would be the first person to say this is claptrap.

I love him for his loyalty, for all he's done for the club. But if he's fucking up, then he deserves criticism. That's true of absolutely everybody

[AlBear. 8,499]

So in your opinion. Because of what we have been through are jig, Boca , Alexander , little, Wallace etc , the ones that stayed , are they immune from critisizm as well ?

I can't see what they could have possibly done wrong to warrant me criticizing them before September in the league. Look I'm obviously wrong coz their are more your side of the fence on this. Criticize, Judge, Condemn. I'm just gonna have to stay off RM coz it really, really pisses me off reading stuff like that from fellow bears so early in the season.

[AlBear. 8,499]

Stop being so defensive just because everyone isn't as 'loyal' as you.

I stated, in reply to someone else claiming that Ally would remain in a job even if we didn't get promotion, that I believed this to be totally untrue. That, in the unlikely case we don't win the league, Ally would either walk from the job, knowing he hasn't done good enough, or the club would sack him. I don't believe this to be a particularly shocking idea and i'm quite sure most Rangers fans would not accept us remaining in this league for another year, with the players we have onboard.

I categorically did not suggest that we will not get promoted because we drew our first two away games, that is untrue, I simply replied to someone putting across the idea that he'd remain in a job should he not gain promotion.

You're talking about Rangers not getting promotion from Div 3. To me that is Shocking! Why would you even think that? I have no doubt we'll get promoted. That's why 2 away draws in August doesn't concern me.

[Marco Negri's Beard 1,423]

You're talking about Rangers not getting promotion from Div 3. To me that is Shocking! Why would you even think that? I have no doubt we'll get promoted. That's why 2 away draws in August doesn't concern me.

Did you read my post? Was in response to someone suggesting the notion of us not getting promotion. Not me. Was simply responding to the thought.

Us not getting promoted is highly unlikely, but if we've learned anything from the first few weeks it should be that the opposition isn't as bad as we think (or we're not as good as we think) - nothing should be taken for granted

Listen, your support for Ally is utterly commendable. We all love Ally. There just shouldn't be 2 sides of the fence. There is a plethora of opinions. Some are far too critical of Ally, others, your own thoughts i'd suggest, give Ally too much leeway, something i'm positive that Ally himself would categorically state is not correct either.

All I want to put across to you is that there is room to debate some extremely poor early season performances without that meaning that people of that opinion want Ally out of a job. You can be concerned while still fully backing Ally, that's all.

Some quite clearly take it too far, but that is a minority. The majority display serious concern but with the hope and expectations that Ally will sort things out.

[simplythebest 11,453]

Goian TUPE'd over when so many didn't yet got pelters for his displays this season, as he was awful.

Where was the outrage then if we cannot question someone based on their conduct during the administration problems?

[AlBear. 8,499]

Goian TUPE'd over when so many didn't yet got pelters for his displays this season, as he was awful.

Where was the outrage then if we cannot question someone based on their conduct during the administration problems?

I give up mate. You're all right. I'll back down.

Ally Sort it Out

[simplythebest 11,453]

I give up mate. You're all right. I'll back down.

Ally Sort it Out

I'm wanting to debate, not make anyone back down.

[AlBear. 8,499]

I'm wanting to debate, not make anyone back down.

Debate on what?

Your saying if Ally gets it wrong he should go. Perhaps I'm naive but I'm not focusing on Ally getting it wrong. I'm focused on supporting him completely. I just don't know what to say pal. IMO, he should be given this season to rebuild. WE WILL EASILY GET PROMOTION (IMO) and then we begin our assault on Div 2 + Div 1 with Ally at the helm. I can't have a debate with you about if Rangers lose to a Div 3 team or if Rangers don't get promoted. They're unthinkable for me. Why can't I just have my opinion that at this stage 3 games in, still in August being unbeaten cant we put up with a couple bad performances.

Seems to me despite people saying contrary they truly believed we would win every game 10-0 and now that is the only acceptable outcome.

[skinnymate1690 772]

I give up mate. You're all right. I'll back down.

Ally Sort it Out

It's all about opinions mate ,nobody is right or wrong , every rangers fan wants ally to succeed , whether it happens or not is up for debate at the moment IMO