lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Shyster pays no tax for nine months , we go in to administration Starbucks just been confirmed they haven't payed tax in the uk for three years ! Fucking joke ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Check out how much TopShop paid in tax. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Every business and their grannies dog is paying as little tax as possible, especially these days with all the hikes.For us, its like being accused of cheating because we field eleven players every week, as if its against the rules or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77amurai 258 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 the difference between avoiding and outright evading annoyingly.Boots are the fucking worst for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Every business and their grannies dog is paying as little tax as possible, especially these days with all the hikes.For us, its like being accused of cheating because we field eleven players every week, as if its against the rules or something.yes I no , but they haven't payed any tax in three years , think they said 1.2 billion turn over but hey they haven't made a profit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzl82 2 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cos of companies like these we're getting hammered its fuckin ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 There are £billions lost to the Revenue through tax avoidance. If any of the two main parties wished to do anything about this they would enact suitable legislation to plug the loop-holes. They havn't and they wont. It's far far easier to blame the "dole scroungers/benefits cheats" as it gives the tabloids an easily identifiable group to target and they cannot answer back. It also gives the readers of said tabloids easy targets to fulminate against while the real scroungers "tax avoiders" get away with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cos of companies like these we're getting hammered its fuckin ridiculousyep and they ain't the only ones , I think Vodafone had a huge bill last year that wasn't payed , fucking joke ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,337 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Shyster did not pay tax, the PAYE contributions taken, or VAT, ,however Starbucks have paid all these to HMRC which makes it different. However, you are right;the big companies avoid paying what they should by avoidance schemes and delay payments to suppliers as long as they can (some even deduct a percentage np matter how long they take to pay) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen fish boy 8,723 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 strip them of their cups....and saucers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Shyster did not pay tax, the PAYE contributions taken, or VAT, ,however Starbucks have paid all these to HMRC which makes it different. However, you are right;the big companies avoid paying what they should by avoidance schemes and delay payments to suppliers as long as they can (some even deduct a percentage np matter how long they take to pay)just quoting what-was said on the news today , haven't payed tax in this country in three years , they are a global company , not on about other country's Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland 76 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 yep and they ain't the only ones , I think Vodafone had a huge bill last year that wasn't payed , fucking joke !It was 4.8bn they didn't pay Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 yes I no , but they haven't payed any tax in three years , think they said 1.2 billion turn over but hey they haven't made a profitWell frankly that is a disgrace. It could be argued that HMRC have hounded us to the brink over less than 10% of that sum, all because of a administration error? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God save charles green 73 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If at the end of the tax year say there is £10,000 of profit left in a buisness(for speaking sake) then as long as that profit is put back into the buisness then it is my understanding that no tax is due.Is that what these companys are doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 It was 4.8bn they didn't paythat much? Disgrace !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,337 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The way I read it is that it is related to Corporation Tax not non payment ofVAT and PAYE contributions which were what put us into administration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well frankly that is a disgrace. It could be argued that HMRC have hounded us to the brink over less than 10% of that sum, all because of a administration error?spot on mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 the difference between avoiding and outright evading annoyingly.Boots are the fucking worst for it.Boots are bad - Vodaphone are the worst (best ?)at it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 If at the end of the tax year say there is £10,000 of profit left in a buisness(for speaking sake) then as long as that profit is put back into the buisness then it is my understanding that no tax is due.Is that what these companys are doing?maybe mate ? Makes you laugh they are global , and haven't made a profit ? And they are one expensive coffee shop! Greedy fuckers ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,332 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Check out how much TopShop paid in tax.And Vodafone. To be honest I don't think they will get away with it, seems there were a few people at the top of HMRC that were wined and dined into turning a blind eye. Apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God save charles green 73 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And Vodafone. To be honest I don't think they will get away with it, seems there were a few people at the top of HMRC that were wined and dined into turning a blind eye. Apparently.whole worlds corrupt even the fuckin tax man Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Wonder if any clever Rangers fans who are accountants have researched the tax affairs of the SFA / SPL / football clubs and their chairman / senior execs in Scotland to see if there are any dodgy dealings or practices that are at the edge of legitimacy or if any have been convicted of tax evasion or related offences. Only interested in fact and truth of course and for public service / public integrity reasons!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhailichenko 90 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 They have done nothing wrong, legally. CW on the other hand unlawfully withheld taxes due. Starbucks uk operation has posted losses every year it has operated in the uk. This is mainly due to clever accounting and ensures they don't have to pay Corperation Tax. As far as I am aware they have paid thei NI and PAYE contributions as is required of them. Nothing illegal at all as far as I am aware. Whether it is immoral is a totally separate issue. Making a comparison between Starbucks and Rangers' situation is a non starter for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The difference is multi-national companies like that have very deep pockets to take on the tax man so he gives them a wide berth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 yep and they ain't the only ones , I think Vodafone had a huge bill last year that wasn't payed , fucking joke !I'm sure that was about 1 billion re Vodaphone........they have their company reg in Luxembourg or Lichtenstein and got round it that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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