TV audience figures.

[GMac 1,405]

Hearts v Celtic 129,000

Hibs v Hearts 124,000

Rangers v Elgin 291,000

You could laugh, but we're effectively bankrolling the SPL with the TV deal. Hope CG makes a comment about this.

[brazz1972 397]

Where do you find this info? Surely figures like this puts the ball well in our court when it comes to TV deals.

[El Carpintero 546]

Makes it even worse for them that 50000 of our fans were at our game as well. Everyone just wants to see the Rangers.

[nachothelegend 1,932]

We must never go back to that League again.

We will be the losers if we do.

It must die.

[BallochBear 1,613]

I love the way our issues have made us more supportive of the club, let's just make sure it continues forever.

Therey only come to see The Rangers.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[OzGers 425]

Where does this info come from? Would be good to use on radio snyde to the timmys n Timmy loving panelists a right wind up

[mclovin9091 1,408]

More great news.

The only way the support will stay at the current level (attendances) is if the ticket prices stay the same, granted as we move up the leagues the competition allegedly gets better and therefore the reason for higher prices. But whats the point in charging £25 a ticket and only getting 35-40K fans every home game, when you can sell the tickets at current prices and get a full house every game. In theory the more people who attend the game there will be additional revenue from the mega-store, programmes, pie and brew etc that may make up the slight short fall from the higher ticket price.

There is one down side to the excellent support and thats as soon as the level drops the mhanks will be all over it, regardless or not whether they have any fans that turn up for thier games.

[sprotson11 147]

Where does this info come from? Would be good to use on radio snyde to the timmys n Timmy loving panelists a right wind up

I think you can get it from www.barb.co.uk but not sure exactly how

[Dutchy 1,200]

Most trophies, most fans. Simply the Best!

[govanblue 16,847]

More great news.

The only way the support will stay at the current level (attendances) is if the ticket prices stay the same, granted as we move up the leagues the competition allegedly gets better and therefore the reason for higher prices. But whats the point in charging £25 a ticket and only getting 35-40K fans every home game, when you can sell the tickets at current prices and get a full house every game. In theory the more people who attend the game there will be additional revenue from the mega-store, programmes, pie and brew etc that may make up the slight short fall from the higher ticket price.

There is one down side to the excellent support and thats as soon as the level drops the mhanks will be all over it, regardless or not whether they have any fans that turn up for thier games.

Your main point is a fair one, but there are still scenarios where prices could go up slightly without affecting attendance too much. It's not just cheaper tickets that has brought out our support this year.

Your second point is irrelevant - the mhanks are all over everything whether they have facts to back it up or not. Let them do what they want - they only embarrass themselves more.

[OlegKuznetsov 10,816]

Where does this info come from? Would be good to use on radio snyde to the timmys n Timmy loving panelists a right wind up

For Stuart "booming, thriving fascinating new SPL" Cosgrove also.

[sprotson11 147]

I know someone else on this forum has been keeping track of TV viewing figures, but I thought I would just take a look myself.

Got some raw data for the sports channels from www.barb.co.uk and did some quick calculations.

Rangers have averaged 153000 viewers watching their matches on either Sky or ESPN, Celtic 102222 and the other teams 51769.

the rangers total is just 1000 less than the other two added together

[Peasie 103]

Seems a good time to update this comparison to last season.

For those wanting to know how to find the figures for themselves.

Go to http://www.barb.co.uk

Click on "Viewing Data"

Then "Top Tens"

If a match isn't there then it had viewing figures lower that the lowest for that channel for that week.

[mclovin9091 1,408]

Your main point is a fair one, but there are still scenarios where prices could go up slightly without affecting attendance too much. It's not just cheaper tickets that has brought out our support this year.

Without a shadow of a doubt the prices are not the biggest reason for the support, far from it. Obviously prices will go up and European Football next season will be the main driving point behind it, after all we are winning the Scottish cup this year.

I'm just of the thinking that by reducing prices any company can make the same amount of money by dropping prices because their product becomes more affordable to more people therefore increasing the customer base. My biggest example of this is: Why do supermarkets continue to make a loss on the petrol they sell? Becuase it brings in customers to the supermarket. I guarantee that 5p a litre (£2.50 saving on an average 50L fill up) you save at the pump is more than covered for in the shop.

[sprotson11 147]

Seems a good time to update this comparison to last season.

For those wanting to know how to find the figures for themselves.

Go to http://www.barb.co.uk

Click on "Viewing Data"

Then "Top Tens"

If a match isn't there then it had viewing figures lower that the lowest for that channel for that week.

I got a figure of 38000 from barb for the game on 5th October

[sprotson11 147]

Without a shadow of a doubt the prices are not the biggest reason for the support, far from it. Obviously prices will go up and European Football next season will be the main driving point behind it, after all we are winning the Scottish cup this year.

I'm just of the thinking that by reducing prices any company can make the same amount of money by dropping prices because their product becomes more affordable to more people therefore increasing the customer base. My biggest example of this is: Why do supermarkets continue to make a loss on the petrol they sell? Becuase it brings in customers to the supermarket. I guarantee that 5p a litre (£2.50 saving on an average 50L fill up) you save at the pump is more than covered for in the shop.

I agree with what you are saying in principle, however Rangers are getting near capacity with current prices. It does not necessarily mean that increasing the price next season will reduce the attendances.

If attendances were to start to drop either this season or at the beginning of next season I could reason to reduce prices, to increase the attendances and make more money from food/merchandising etc

[govanblue 16,847]

Without a shadow of a doubt the prices are not the biggest reason for the support, far from it. Obviously prices will go up and European Football next season will be the main driving point behind it, after all we are winning the Scottish cup this year.

I'm just of the thinking that by reducing prices any company can make the same amount of money by dropping prices because their product becomes more affordable to more people therefore increasing the customer base. My biggest example of this is: Why do supermarkets continue to make a loss on the petrol they sell? Becuase it brings in customers to the supermarket. I guarantee that 5p a litre (£2.50 saving on an average 50L fill up) you save at the pump is more than covered for in the shop.

Without a doubt. Probably more profit, given the extra catering, programmes, Megastore, Rising Star tickets etc.

[Peasie 103]

I got a figure of 38000 from barb for the game on 5th October

Thanks for that. I'll update now. I wasn't aware they updated their figures at a later date. When I first accessed the page I was getting "No data available for this week for ESPN" (or words to that effect).

[mclovin9091 1,408]

For me if i knew the club could charge more for ticket prices but chose not to i would be delighted as they would not come across as a money grabbing corporation.

I do not begrudge paying the ticket price whatever the cost because it is a company club i love. But compare this feeling to that when your paying your gas, eleccy or phone bills, if they were to do the same well that would be nice wouldn't it.

[sprotson11 147]

Thanks for that. I'll update now. I wasn't aware they updated their figures at a later date. When I first accessed the page I was getting "No data available for this week for ESPN" (or words to that effect).

No worries, I couldn't find any figures for BBC Alba, are they on there?

[Peasie 103]

No worries, I couldn't find any figures for BBC Alba, are they on there?

I couldn't find them either.

[JM1872 3,821]

Makes it even worse for them that 50000 of our fans were at our game as well. Everyone just wants to see the Rangers.

23k-25k actually mate, was the Scottish Cup game at the start of the month

But nonetheless, the figures speak volumes. If you put Scumtic v Aberdeen against Peterhead v Rangers into it, they had around 90,000 viewers while we had 190,000 on the opening week of the season. Then again, their attendances of late haven't been flattering. Only 6000 in total from both clubs at Killie v Scumtic last week, I heard.

Even if it was 50,00 full, however, I'm sure the viewing figures would still be through the roof.

Fuck the SPL contract, get our own.

[Thermopylae 15,288]

Those figures really are remarkable

[OlegKuznetsov 10,816]

Such figures could have Sky saying, we want Rangers back or no deal to the SPL. Where would they then find this £4.2m they want to bribe SFL1 with to become SPL2?

They may instead go for an SFL only or Rangers only deal. In the latter case, I do hope and indeed believe that we will look after the SFL financially.

[El Carpintero 546]

More great news.

The only way the support will stay at the current level (attendances) is if the ticket prices stay the same, granted as we move up the leagues the competition allegedly gets better and therefore the reason for higher prices. But whats the point in charging £25 a ticket and only getting 35-40K fans every home game, when you can sell the tickets at current prices and get a full house every game. In theory the more people who attend the game there will be additional revenue from the mega-store, programmes, pie and brew etc that may make up the slight short fall from the higher ticket price.

There is one down side to the excellent support and thats as soon as the level drops the mhanks will be all over it, regardless or not whether they have any fans that turn up for thier games.

When have we ever, in the last 20 years, regularly had 35000 or even 40000 at home matches? You do our club and our fans a disservice there. Only in one off cup matches do we ever drop below 40000, and that was with £25 tickets.