Greed over Legacy!

[The Godfather 75,952]

With all the talk of Naismith, Whittaker, Lafferty, Ness ect who walked out on our club as we all know it makes it even more of a bitter pill to swallow that these so called ‘fans’ continue to derail our surge back to the top (be it by lawyers, agents or the players themselves).

I mean as a boy born and bred in Glasgow who was brought up surrounded by The Rangers it seems unthinkable how anyone who has lived a life such as mine in this respect could turn on this club be it for money or other self gains. Of course we will never be in such a position to know for sure what our choices would be but in the hearts of hearts the one think that has always mattered is the club, I can’t believe for one second a Ranger could stand in the way of this club pushing forward especially after what Whyte did to us.

I thought after the dust had settled that these players would understand what Green was trying to do and that The Rangers would come out as number 1 priority but I keep hearing or reading that this is not the case and maybe I could understand if they were foreign players or non-Rangers but for guys who claimed to be just like you and me is like a knife in the back.

I look at players like Jig who has been with us during some exciting times CL, UC final, Titles, Cups and when push came to shove the man looked deep inside and stuck by us determined to lead us as a Ranger back to where we deserve to be. In a flash Jig became a far bigger player, man, supporter than the likes of Naismith, Lafferty, Ness and the rest.

I would like to think if it were you or I in this situation we would all take the path Jig took. I can’t thank that man enough and the others who stayed to be part of something very special!

I hope those who turned the back on this wonderful institution are made to regret it for the rest of their days.

[The Godfather 75,952]

Whittaker I supose was never a Rangers fan in the first place so maybe he should nto be held in the same light.

[Brian Fantana 28,894]

I thought after the dust had settled that these players would understand what Green was trying to do and that The Rangers would come out as number 1 priority but I keep hearing or reading that this is not the case

When exactly did we know what Green was doing and start trusting him? Wasn't till late on was it, why would it have been different for the players?

I think they way they left was disgraceful but at the same time if i take off my blue tinted fan spectacles i can see that they had to go where the money is. Remember that this is their career, one that ends at around 35 and they need to make money to last through the rest of their life. To speak ill of a player leaving to do whats best for his career or family in the modern game is ridiculous, but to speak ill of a player who leaves in the manner they did is fair IMO. To be a fan of Rangers does not necessitate that you play for them all your life.

Should they have left - for the good of their career and finances - Yes

Should they have left in the manner they did - Not a chance.

[The Godfather 75,952]

"To speak ill of a player leaving to do whats best for his career or family in the modern game is ridiculous. To be a fan of Rangers does not necessitate that you play for them all your life."

To deny we exist and play on the boyhood fan pish because they saw £ dangled in their face is unacceptable.

And to come out and say you expected to stay there for the rest of their career is just another boot in the balls.

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

The thing I always wonder about is, would Jig have stayed if he was 25 and not 35? Lee Wallace is the one who comes out the best in all of this. I really hope, and cant see any reason why not, that he's got digs on the captains armband.

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

"To speak ill of a player leaving to do whats best for his career or family in the modern game is ridiculous. To be a fan of Rangers does not necessitate that you play for them all your life."

To deny we exist and play on the boyhood fan pish because they saw £ dangled in their face is unacceptable.

And to come out and say you expected to stay there for the rest of their career is just another boot in the balls.

Not only that, they didn't grow up fans the way we all have. Plus if they did, they already had rhe chance to play for Rangers. We need to accept that not all ''die hards'' are true die hards. It's more of a career to them once they get to having kids and that. I know for a fact McGregor was wanting to finish his career here. What made him want to leave?

[The Godfather 75,952]

How do you know that for a 'fact'?

Did you know him?

[Brian Fantana 28,894]

Not only that, they didn't grow up fans the way we all have. Plus if they did, they already had rhe chance to play for Rangers. We need to accept that not all ''die hards'' are true die hards. It's more of a career to them once they get to having kids and that. I know for a fact McGregor was wanting to finish his career here. What made him want to leave?

if McGregor wanted to stay he could have.

[sprotson11 147]

When exactly did we know what Green was doing and start trusting him? Wasn't till late on was it, why would it have been different for the players?

I think they way they left was disgraceful but at the same time if i take off my blue tinted fan spectacles i can see that they had to go where the money is. Remember that this is their career, one that ends at around 35 and they need to make money to last through the rest of their life. To speak ill of a player leaving to do whats best for his career or family in the modern game is ridiculous, but to speak ill of a player who leaves in the manner they did is fair IMO. To be a fan of Rangers does not necessitate that you play for them all your life.

Should they have left - for the good of their career and finances - Yes

Should they have left in the manner they did - Not a chance.

I disagree, most Rangers fans have no issues with the players wanting to move on, They can appreciate that playing in the third division for International Players could harm their career, that there was uncertainty over Green and also that they could get more money elsewhere. Like you say they need to look after their family.

What is not understandable is that these players choose to move on without Rangers getting a transfer fee. The players negotiated a reduced transfer feee when they agreed to a wage cut, but they could not even stick to that agreement.

Why would they do that - pure and simple greed, they got the money not the club.

What is also not understandable by Rangers fans is that some of these players put the boot in when the club was down, talk from Naismith of the club being dead just one example.

[The Godfather 75,952]

if McGregor wanted to stay he could have.

Or transfered over so we got a fee.

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

Have to say the OP does not start many threads.......but nailed this one to the mast

[The Godfather 75,952]

Have to say the OP does not start many threads.......but nailed this one to the mast

Cheers ED!

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

How do you know that for a 'fact'?

Did you know him?

Fair enough. I could tell he didn't want to leave. You could see it in his body lanuage, and the interview he done after games etc that he was willing to stay here till he hung his boots up. Remember he had just signed a contract that would him took him into his mid 30's just before he went as well. I dont believe for one second that he went looking to leave.

[geronimoo 1,577]

Nobody seems to say they are in this constructive dismisal thing, it may just be the SPFA trying to make it look as if they have a purpose

to their members and sent out this story.

I remember when Nisbett had to stop playing because of injury he said he got little or no help from the players union and it was his team-mates at Ibrox who helped him.

The SPFA is a pointless orginisation who do very littel expect give folks on their board a good wage while they sit on the SPFA Gravy Train.

[The Godfather 75,952]

Fair enough. I could tell he didn't want to leave. You could see it in his body lanuage, and the interview he done after games etc that he was willing to stay here till he hung his boots up. Remember he had just signed a contract that would him took him into his mid 30's just before he went as well. I dont believe for one second that he went looking to leave.

Naismith pandered on Twitter weeks before he done the unthinkable on us, saying he doesnt have to leave and the boyhood Ranger rubbish.

If these guys wanted to stay they could have, just look at Wallace, Jig, Alexander ect. The least they could have done was transfered over and gave us a fee for getting them to where the are in football.

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

Cheers ED!

No problem bud, you expressed the feelings I have over the subject

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

One has to recall, the players who were last to sign up to the salary reduction, and perhaps the summer exodus of these players tells the story.

[bombaybadboy08 15,660]

Great post.

We're well aware that playing SFL football isn't attractive or beneficial for their international careers so none of us expected them to be 'Rangers for life'.

As the OP and Sprotson pointed out they should have transferred over,got us a much needed fee and still be looked upon as heroes in another club's shirt.

[sprotson11 147]

Nobody seems to say they are in this constructive dismisal thing, it may just be the SPFA trying to make it look as if they have a purpose

to their members and sent out this story.

I remember when Nisbett had to stop playing because of injury he said he got little or no help from the players union and it was his team-mates at Ibrox who helped him.

The SPFA is a pointless orginisation who do very littel expect give folks on their board a good wage while they sit on the SPFA Gravy Train.

I think constructive dismissal is just for 3 players and has been raised by the players.

The failing to inform action has been raised by the union on behalf of the players. This is the one the players are distancing themselves from. The union have only raised this IMO to try to get Rangers to drop the claim for compensation from the players new clubs.

[The Godfather 75,952]

It's the Naismith one that really gets me.

2 knee injuries that put him out for 2 seasons basically and he has the nerve to do this not only to the clubt that nursed him back on both occasions but his boyhood team?

I'm sorry but that for me is unforgivable, he alone should feel ashamed and never mention our name again after this!

[sprotson11 147]

It's the Naismith one that really gets me.

2 knee injuries that put him out for 2 seasons basically and he has the nerve to do this not only to the clubt that nursed him back on both occasions but his boyhood team?

I'm sorry but that for me is unforgivable, he alone should feel ashamed and never mention our name again after this!

I don't subscribe to having greater feelings towards Naismith or Ness because of their injuries.

Yes, what they did IMO was despicable but their injuries did not make it worse. At the end of the day these guys had contracts, and part od that would stipulate what wages they get and what treatment they get when they are injured

[The Godfather 75,952]

I don't subscribe to having greater feelings towards Naismith or Ness because of their injuries.

Yes, what they did IMO was despicable but their injuries did not make it worse. At the end of the day these guys had contracts, and part od that would stipulate what wages they get and what treatment they get when they are injured

It just sticks with me, I don't like how they talked about the club as if it were nothing more than an employer when so many other Rangers have described Rangers as a home, a family and as such should be treated like those who use the boyhood fan stuff.

If they wanted to leave then why not do it like Edu? Would that have put them out so much? Did it really matter to them that this club would suffer as a result of financial loss on these players?

[sprotson11 147]

It just sticks with me, I don't like how they talked about the club as if it were nothing more than an employer when so many other Rangers have described Rangers as a home, a family and as such should be treated like those who use the boyhood fan stuff.

If they wanted to leave then why not do it like Edu? Would that have put them out so much? Did it really matter to them that this club would suffer as a result of financial loss on these players?

I agree with everything you say, but don't feel he was being any more disloyal as a result if his injury

[elephants stoned 2,994]

I dont think any true Rangers supporter would of begrudged the likes of Naismith, Ness, Lafferty or Mcgregor their big moves if they had stuck to the agreement with D&P regarding wage cuts amd transfer fee cuts. The forum was all abuzz with talk of our heros taking measures to help the club in Feb and we felt proud that our players were a cut above other clubs mercenarys who put money before everything. The traitors actions at a time when Charles Green and co were fighting on all fronts, especialy with the sfa to get our licence, really hurt and was a huge slap in the face to every man woman and child who has ever forked out a chunk of their savings to buy a ST or travelled miles apon miles to support the team on a freezing cold January night in away games.

Our club has always been bigger than any man and always will, but these players who walked away clearly thought that our unique situation meant they were bigger than us now, and so they shat on our idea of loyalty and ran, but now the ammount of whining and pleading for understanding in the media shows they've realised who the big guys really are, well too late they left and should not even think about coming back again!

[G.E.C. 19,594]

It's the Naismith one that really gets me.

2 knee injuries that put him out for 2 seasons basically and he has the nerve to do this not only to the clubt that nursed him back on both occasions but his boyhood team?

I'm sorry but that for me is unforgivable, he alone should feel ashamed and never mention our name again after this!

We as fans should never mention that wee rat again.