OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You were loved here and were becoming an important player. We supported you through two serious injuries. You claimed to be a Rangers fan- one of us. You did accept a pay cut to help us, but you have since then burned your own reputation.When we were sent to Division 3, many could understand that you had to move on for your career. We also understand that you have agents and advisors who will inform you as to how you claim every penny.However, others, like Edu moved on having agreed to transfer over, thus assisting the club to rebuild after our enemies.Yet you, a self-professed Rangers fan, turned your back on the club and uttered what to us is a great blasphemy.Show some decency, come to an agreement with the club, and grant us some of that disgustingly abundant Premiership money. It's not like your scraping by at Gretna or Albion Rovers.Financially, you have improved yourself.Now you should make some recompense to the club and fans by improving your morality and handling of this dreadful affair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Davis and McCabe never agreed to transfer over,We only got a fee after threatening their new clubs.Naismith however is a wanker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Davis and McCabe never agreed to transfer over,We only got a fee after threatening their new clubs.Naismith however is a wanker.Thanks for correcting that. I'll reword the OP suitably. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxi967 0 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Simple message STAY AWAY Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronglypenalised 14 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Can anyone ever see him back playing for us?I know it sounds a totally ridiculous question to put out there as obviously feelings are still very raw for a lot of us, however I remember shouts of "You can shove yer Kenny Miller up yer arse" shortly before Sir Walter sanctioned the purchase of him. Going back a tad further in time there was the little matter of a certain Mr M Johnston signing.The fact is we don't know all the ins and outs of every players situation at the time, we can all declare we would have done this, that, or the other but most of those declarations are made on the back of our feelings toward the club as fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Can anyone ever see him back playing for us?I know it sounds a totally ridiculous question to put out there as obviously feelings are still very raw for a lot of us, however I remember shouts of "You can shove yer Kenny Miller up yer arse" shortly before Sir Walter sanctioned the purchase of him. Going back a tad further in time there was the little matter of a certain Mr M Johnston signing.The fact is we don't know all the ins and outs of every players situation at the time, we can all declare we would have done this, that, or the other but most of those declarations are made on the back of our feelings toward the club as fans.He would have to back down with his current action, make a public apology and state that he will run down his contract in order to sign for free. Then and only then, could he possibly be given an awkward return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,539 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 As posted in other Naismith thread;Why are we still giving this guy the time of day?He feeds 50 homeless people once a year and think's he's giving back. These charities feed thousands of people every day and no one bats an eyelid.Who fucking cares about what he thinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronglypenalised 14 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 As posted in other Naismith thread;Why are we still giving this guy the time of day?He feeds 50 homeless people once a year and think's he's giving back. These charities feed thousands of people every day and no one bats an eyelid.Who fucking cares about what he thinks.You care enough to open a thread and post a comment.I care because like others, can see he is a good player (probably not as technically good as Johnston but better than Miller - two players who most of us didn't want to see play for us) and I felt the question should be asked about if he could return or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He would have to back down with his current action, make a public apology and state that he will run down his contract in order to sign for free. Then and only then, could he possibly be given an awkward return.I still wouldn't accept him. The minute he said the club was dead, he was dead to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Fester 186 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 WHO! fucking forget these disloyal self serving wankers I'm only interested in those that stayed and those that came to join us in the proud SFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greig-1872 12 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I still wouldn't accept him. The minute he said the club was dead, he was dead to me.Fully agree with this. He can go fuck himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,539 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You care enough to open a thread and post a comment.I care because like others, can see he is a good player (probably not as technically good as Johnston but better than Miller - two players who most of us didn't want to see play for us) and I felt the question should be asked about if he could return or not.Are you serious, you would take him back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 I still wouldn't accept him. The minute he said the club was dead, he was dead to me.I am very close to that view. Very close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,407 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Can anyone ever see him back playing for us?I know it sounds a totally ridiculous question to put out there as obviously feelings are still very raw for a lot of us, however I remember shouts of "You can shove yer Kenny Miller up yer arse" shortly before Sir Walter sanctioned the purchase of him. Going back a tad further in time there was the little matter of a certain Mr M Johnston signing.The fact is we don't know all the ins and outs of every players situation at the time, we can all declare we would have done this, that, or the other but most of those declarations are made on the back of our feelings toward the club as fans.There will never be a day when I could accept the treacherous little bastard playing for us again. Enemies are one thing but when those disguised as your own behave like he did it is unforgivable IMO. To be honest I cannot articulate how much i resent him never mind ever consider him to play for us again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronglypenalised 14 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Are you serious, you would take him back?I don't know - I would have to take the situation on it's merit if it were ever to arise. I asked the question because we have had examples in the past of fans being vocal in their condemnation of players signing but ultimately most change their opinions over time.I know it's a sore point for us and perhaps it will never come to anything but put it this way - if he was a shite player then no-one would give a fuck about him, the fact there are so many threads created when his situation is publicised shows that many still think he is a good player as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,952 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Steven Naismith should never be allowed to step foot in the stadium as a supporter so the notion of him playing in our colors again turns my stomache. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,952 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It would be worse than Maurice Johnston in my eyes, and I mean that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Him an everton and also moyes can go fuck themselfs / end thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,715 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hardly wise of Naismith making statements to the BBC like,'It was the hardest decision of my life' or 'I only left for financial reasons and security of my Family' or words to that effect.You would still have had that you prick,Everton were interested even before admin but you've burnt your bridges,you and your mouthpiece Whitless can FK right off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,539 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't know - I would have to take the situation on it's merit if it were ever to arise. I asked the question because we have had examples in the past of fans being vocal in their condemnation of players signing but ultimately most change their opinions over time.I know it's a sore point for us and perhaps it will never come to anything but put it this way - if he was a shite player then no-one would give a fuck about him, the fact there are so many threads created when his situation is publicised shows that many still think he is a good player as well.Fair enough, if it was up to me I wouldn't even let him back into Scotland.If he hadn't spun all the lies about being a Rangers fan, I honestly wouldn't really been that bothered about what he did. I do not really expect any more from professional footballers.I do expect more from a Rangers fan.When the history books are written about this debacle and his former team mates are heralded as heroes he may truly regret his decision. If any of his offspring REALLY are Rangers fans then he will have a few interesting questions to answer.He chose 500k over leaving with the blessing of the fans, that says a lot IMO and you are of course entitled to yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It would be worse than Maurice Johnston in my eyes, and I mean that.That's my exact feelings on the matter.Did anyone see on the SKY text Naismith saying he misses playing for Rangers and the expectation that comes with it?They should all know by now. Unless you are a genuine world class player, then the only way is down once you leave Rangers.I can honestly count on 1 hand the amount of players that have bettered themselves after leaving in my life time. Gattuso and Van Bronkhorst. That is it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 4,275 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I wouldnt accept him or any of the other traitors back. The so called "bluenose" royally fucked us over. That cant be forgotten by me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,808 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He can piss right off.Of all the traitors I class him as public enemy number one.The amount of time and money spent on him when he was injured and then he repays us how ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 That's my exact feelings on the matter.Did anyone see on the SKY text Naismith saying he misses playing for Rangers and the expectation that comes with it?They should all know by now. Unless you are a genuine world class player, then the only way is down once you leave Rangers.I can honestly count on 1 hand the amount of players that have bettered themselves after leaving in my life time. Gattuso and Van Bronkhorst. That is it.He's pissing off the Everton fans too with his comments about higher demands and intensity at Rangers.QuoteFootballers, Don’t you just love them ?! Posted in Everton FCAs the headline says , ‘Footballers, don’t you just love them’ ?! They never cease to amaze me, I often at times question if they have ANY common sense at all. I read this morning that Steven Naismith misses the intensity of playing for Rangers apparently ! Now for me a player making these kind of comments would be only qualified to do so if a) he was guaranteed a starting place every week at his club. b) Was absolutely tearing the place up and M.o.M every week. c) Was sold against his wishes from the said club he was missing ! Now by my reading of the situation Steven Naismith doesn’t qualify for even one of the three qualifying statements let alone all three !!This is what Naismith had to say to the the Daily Record :‘I liked how standards or expectations were that high that there was no hiding place. Any time you drop points at Rangers its a bad result. I liked that intensity of an old firm player. The expectation was so high and there was no hiding place. Any game you do not win is a bad result. You needed to win every game. I liked that there was no hiding place – it made you a better player.You are never going to change that. A lot of things will need to happen for that to change, but I grew up around Glasgow supporting one half of the old firm. It was the norm for me.In a way at Everton there isn’t as much intensity and scrutiny as Rangers but the expectation is still there and that comes from the manager. We want to finish in the Top4 and there is an expectation when you play. But if we go away to play Manchester United or City and get a draw its a decent result. That is where it differs from Rangers.’Now I would suggest that if Rangers ever got the chance to play Manchester United or City and got a draw it would be a bit more than a decent result !! In response to his last line !!!Anyway, back on topic. These comments to me smack of a player that just does not understand the club or its fanbase ! Since Naismith’s arrival from Rangers after HE decided to transfer his contract and not stay at Rangers, he has hardly forced David Moyes’ hand in picking him every week. Now these comments aside, I am in the ‘give him time’ corner as he looks to posses an ability for getting into the right areas of the penalty area and always seems to get at least one presentable chance per game.We must not forget that he is only just recovering from a serious knee injury which takes time and the more he trains the fitter and sharper he will become. I do not think he is a wide player , more likely to play off the striker for me and you can see at times his understanding with Nikica Jelavic is a good one. However, his form has been patchy at best and he has also missed some really presentable and important chances and some supporters have written him off already. Therefore it is a very dangerous thing to risk upsetting the supporters even more with comments which won’t exactly endear him to already doubting sections of supporters.If I could speak directly to Steven, I would inform him that I expect Everton to win EVERY game we play and there is no relaxing intensity from me. Our supporters are vociferous and travel up and down the country to watch the Blues and they EXPECT a top performance every time the players step out onto the pitch. If Naismith does not feel as though the intensity is there then I suggest to him that he injects it into his game as there are quite a few supporters who are not seeing any intensity or quality at times from our ‘Blonde Bombshell’ from Scotland. I am also quite sure David Moyes will have something to say to Naismith regarding these comments.I also find it hard to comprehend that he misses a league where Rangers only had four competitive games a season and they were the Old Firm games. maybe he misses being so much better than the rest of the teams and players in the division whereas in England its 38 hard games a season and at the moment there are not many players he has been better than in his short Everton career.His big problem is he must try and dislodge probably Everton’s most exciting player in Kevin Mirallas, and to be honest I just do not see him doing that at the moment. His comments are probably filled with some frustration that he is not a first choice player but that is down to him to produce performances that make the manager think. Like I say he has got something and I am prepared to give him time to develop but he needs to be in touch with the fans and not to alienate fans. I am sure he will say his comments have been taken the wrong way, however, if he really does miss Rangers then I do not think many would miss him.Players will come and go but supporters remain the one constant in the life of a football club. No kissing of the badge, boyhood tales of supporting the club etc will ever come close to what we feel for our club. The majority of us would play for free to wear the Blue shirt so therefore we deserve the utmost respect not some cheap interview with a newspaper. I try not to get too emotionally attached to players anymore especially in this day and age as money motivates most players, and therefore the temptation is for them to keep moving on. The one thing I expect though is respect for the supporters who you represent and in this instance I think Naismith has got this one wrong. I will allow him one mistake and only one ! He must now knuckle down and show us the intensity he craves up North, it is needed here Steven so let us see what you are made of !Just for you Steven … NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM ( That should clear up for you what our expectations are !!!)THT Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoga bear 20 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He can piss right off.Of all the traitors I class him as public enemy number one.The amount of time and money spent on him when he was injured and then he repays us how ?Could'nt agree more. There's an interview with Hugh the Tim McDonald in today's Herald which makes him sound like the victim left with no option but to leave. Makes a big issue of taking a 75% pay cut but doesn't mention that he was receiving expensive treatment from the club, due to a self inflicted injury, at the time.McDonald portrays him as some sort of saint, giving money to the homeless in both Glasgow and Liverpool. In reality, he's just money grabbing scum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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