OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 A Compromising PositionPlease remember to click on the official site link to support the club. http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/2919-a-compromising-position?WRITTEN BY ANDREW DICKSONALLY McCOIST believes PFA Scotland put 67 of its members in a compromising position by launching a bid to take legal action against Rangers on their behalf this week.He has also said those who feel they aren’t welcome at Ibrox any more as a result of their departure must accept that as part of their decision to leave.The PFA raised an employment tribunal claim on Monday relating to a failure to ‘inform and consult’ during the club’s administration process earlier this year.In the immediate aftermath, a number of past and present Gers players including Lee McCulloch, Steven Naismith, Sone Aluko and Gregg Wylde said they knew nothing about it.Others joined those four on social network Twitter to deny having anything to do with the claim, with captain McCulloch saying he wanted his name taken off the list if it was on it.McCoist does not feel he or any of his fellow staff members let the playing squad down by not keeping them up to speed with developments as they unfolded between May and June.And he is pleased many of those amongst the 67 involved in the legal action have been so quick to explain they aren’t interested in seeking compensation from the club.He said: “It hasn’t been a distraction because the vast majority of players came out and indicated they had absolutely no interest in pursuing the club.“Once it broke there was a total of 67 players taking action, everyone was telling me some of them who are on Twitter were completely distancing themselves from it.“That’s obviously reassuring for us but at the same time, I’m not sure if I’d be too happy if I was them at being put in a very compromising position.“Maybe there’s more to it than I’m seeing but it’s good a lot of the players who have left have seemingly gone on record as saying they don’t wish to pursue the club.“The boys at PFA Scotland and their lawyers have obviously made a decision they feel is correct.“I don’t know all the facts and figures so I’ll stand corrected if need be and no doubt somebody will correct me if I’m wrong.“I could totally understand the players’ concerns about a lack of information that possibly came their way.“What I would say there is every employee was basically in the same boat. It was my job to inform the players of the information which was passed on to me which I did 100 per cent.“It might not have seemed enough and I can understand that but I passed on what I heard from the administrators. It was a very traumatic time for the club’s entire staff.“If I was one of the players and I was against the action, I would probably be a little bit disappointed I’d possibly been put in a compromising situation.“That’s especially the case with our fans. Our own fans, who have been nothing short of sensational from start to finish, might have their noses out of joint.“If they think they’ve got players playing for Rangers who are taking the club to court and trying to get more money out of it, I could see why they’d be annoyed.“I just feel one of two of the players are a little bit upset. I can’t speak for them but I think they’re upset at being put in a compromising position by their union.“The PFA possibly could have and should have informed them of this. Maybe it was our position to tell them but I’m not sure that’s the case.”This week former Rangers striker Kyle Lafferty spoke of how disappointed he is at not feeling welcome at Ibrox any more as a result of moving on for free in the summer.But McCoist’s message to the Northern Ireland striker and others who went through the same process as him is that’s something they need to deal with themselves.He added: “I’m not going to talk about individuals as that’s not fair but what I would say is the players who left the club had decisions to make and they made those decisions.“They are obviously well entitled to do what they feel is right for themselves, for their families and legally.“I’ve read one or two newspaper articles from former players who have shown a little bit of concern that the fans maybe wouldn’t welcome them back.“I can understand that but the players made their own decisions. They took advice and while I’m not saying their decision were right or wrong, they have to live and stick by them.”In light of the claim by the PFA against Rangers, it has been suggested everyone should drop their threats of legal action and simply move on.But McCoist has backed moves by the Light Blues to pursue a portion of the money they feel they missed out on after what he says was £30million worth of talent left in pre-season.He said: “I think the club and Charles Green in particular have every right to pursue financial benefits where they think Rangers are legally entitled to them.“Whatever the club’s stance is, as manager I have to – and will – back that stance. We’ve taken legal advice on it and feel there’s a case where the club is possibly due money.“In an ideal situation there are no problems at all but this isn’t an ideal situation. Charles and our lawyers feel we’re legally entitled to pursue some form of compensation.“We’ve probably lost in the region of £30million worth of players and I can totally understand the club pursuing that.“There are players who left for absolutely nothing, something they feel they were entitled to do.“Then you have someone like Maurice Edu, who stayed and went through the TUPE process then we got a small fee for him. He left in the right manner and the right way.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Quite right the union have made a huge fuck up here and if i was a player named without consent i would be talking to my lawyer regarding my rights on this. As for the traitors boo hooing, Allys right that they could of done what Mo did and left with heads held high, instead they had to slink away with tails between legs and thats their problem now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdasyn 431 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well said Super Ally Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Like I've said before, I'd have been content for them to leave for tuppence just so long as the club got something from their departure . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue1872 463 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well said Ally, they made their beds now they'll need to lie in them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well said Ally,they're nothing to us now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I hope Naismith and Lafferty do show up at Ibrox one day purely so they can get the abuse they deserve and they will know 100% that they are not welcome back at Ibrox! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,275 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well said Mr McCoist.This is my advice to the traitors :-Enough said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Id have been happy for them to leave, if only they hadnt claimed they owed us nothing.Fuck the lot of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,450 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Charlie Nickerless has a column in todays Express saying Green is persuing a lost cause.Ok I'd expect that from a tim but a lost cause it most certainly is not.I believe the union jumped to soon for whatever reason and gave their backing to the players who wished to walk away, I also believe they're trying by whatever means to cover their backs.We lost money and some dignity when these players walked, it's only right that if Mr Green has been advised he has the law on his side, then he should persue these players or their advisors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Quite right, just lay in it you self-centred whingers.You could have signed over and left for small fees, but you didn't.We're doing it without your help and we don't appreciate your moaning, that's why you're not welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,769 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Fuck them, they made their beds and must now lie in them. Whether they were right or wrong to do what they did, they did what they did and must take the consequences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Quite right the union have made a huge fuck up here and if i was a player named without consent i would be talking to my lawyer regarding my rights on this. As for the traitors boo hooing, Allys right that they could of done what Mo did and left with heads held high, instead they had to slink away with tails between legs and thats their problem now.Having met all the players personally that left, Edu was the one I didn't like out of all of them. However, Edu is the only one I would accept back at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Charlie Nickerless has a column in todays Express saying Green is persuing a lost cause.Ok I'd expect that from a tim but a lost cause it most certainly is not.I believe the union jumped to soon for whatever reason and gave their backing to the players who wished to walk away, I also believe they're trying by whatever means to cover their backs.We lost money and some dignity when these players walked, it's only right that if Mr Green has been advised he has the law on his side, then he should persue these players or their advisors.To be honest, from what I have learned about all this TUPE stuff, I would have to agree with that prick Nicholas. I don't think we are due a penny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Charlie Nickerless has a column in todays Express saying Green is persuing a lost cause.Ok I'd expect that from a tim but a lost cause it most certainly is not.I believe the union jumped to soon for whatever reason and gave their backing to the players who wished to walk away, I also believe they're trying by whatever means to cover their backs.We lost money and some dignity when these players walked, it's only right that if Mr Green has been advised he has the law on his side, then he should persue these players or their advisors.Charlie Nickerless doesnt have enough brains to give himself a sore head so wouldnt worry about anything someone else has wrote for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Super is having a well earned dig at Lafferty, Lafferty was working his ticket well before TUPE gave him a get out clause, Lafferty was asking Rangesr for a rise in the year leaving up to his departure and advsed McCoist he would leave if he never got it. The prick had ran up some large gambling debts with some heavy people and needed a large signing on fee to clear them.....hence working his ticket while lying to the fans how much he loved being here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manno 11 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I hope Naismith and Lafferty do show up at Ibrox one day purely so they can get the abuse they deserve and they will know 100% that they are not welcome back at Ibrox!I hope none of them set foot near Ibrox again. I think I'd try and break that wee albino bastard's face if I ever saw him in the street. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Super is having a well earned dig at Lafferty, Lafferty was working his ticket well before TUPE gave him a get out clause, Lafferty was asking Rangesr for a rise in the year leaving up to his departure and advsed McCoist he would leave if he never got it. The prick had ran up some large gambling debts with some heavy people and needed a large signing on fee to clear them.....hence working his ticket while lying to the fans how much he loved being hereWhere you getting that from? That's quite an allegation you're making there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaneBear 46 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 No surprise that a trade union has acted without authority or mandate from its members.Don't think any of the lepers will be back for the 150th anniversary . . . Still can't believe they left and didn't consider the consequences of their actions.Well said again Mr McCoist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_nic83 61 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It seems that the reason Lafferty got dropped towards the tail end of last season is finally coming to light shows what a waste of space that big clown really was maybe also why Mark Hateley was so publicly damning of him in his article Today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If you burn bridges, best you can swim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,215 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It seems that the reason Lafferty got dropped towards the tail end of last season is finally coming to light shows what a waste of space that big clown really was maybe also why Mark Hateley was so publicly damning of him in his article Today.Aye Hately eh !Great article eh ! His pals nuremburg shug and guidi wid be tellin him that the day at their sports desk dinner ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,853 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Edu and Ness both ended up at the same club, wonder which one would be welcomed back in the future...Edu Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue1872 463 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 At the end of the day, if players felt as much love for Rangers as they're trying to say in the mhedia they would have said to Charles that they would transfer over as long as they got sold on to another club ( at least we would get money for them) but they didn't they decided to look after their selfs by not transfering over so they could get a bigger wage. They're nothing but a bunch of parasites and will never be welcomed back to Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diuhhivty 11 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Not one for posting but as I feel quite strongly about this have to get my tuppence worth in.What exactly did the players union do to help their members when the club had its membership of the SPL withdrawn? Did they fight the corner of their members at Ibrox? Did they offer any help or show unity when players could not be registered until the club gave in to the blackmail from the powers that be and were only granted a temporary licence hours before the first scheduled competitive game at Brechin?Were they arguing restraint of trade when no-one knew if, never mind where, Rangers would play again? Is it not the case that Fraser Wishart of the PFA was more or less encouraging players to leave by arguing TUPE Regulations were not being complied with? What did they have to say about the restraint of trade by Rangers being forced to accept an illegal transfer embargo? Is that not denying his membership an employment opportunity given players who left had to be replaced, a task not made easier by the delay in granting the licence required to register players?A football club not being allowed to sign players surely affects the PFA membership but hey, who cares? Just imagine a popular and busy pub or restaurant goes under. The management and staff club together and raise the cash to take over the business.Everything is in place until the local licensing board say "OK. Go ahead and open but you are not allowed to sell food or drink for a year!" The press covering that area would have a field day going on and on about the absurdity of it all but as it's only Rangers who cares? The 40,000 + who are turning up every home league game and the thousands more watching on Sky that's who!We are where we are, getting stronger all the time and with more and more bears coming out of hibernation no matter what they throw at us we've already shown we cannot be damaged. Hurt perhaps but not seriously injured. This PFA action is yet another example of trying to make something out of Rangers demise and to hell with the consequences.It cannot be an inportant test case if they are prepared to drop the action if Rangers do likewise so what exactly are they trying to prove?And to our lurking friends -- if you maintain we are a new club with no history what is that that very same new club just a few months old has done to deserve your hatred? Says more about you than it does about us!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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