Leggo

[Jonok 1,245]

http://www.leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/

HUNT HOTS UP FOR ROGUES WHO RUINED RANGERS

THE rogues and rascals who ruined Rangers will be spending an uneasy Christmas. For they know it may be their last before being banged up.

I can reveal today that the big hitters appointed by HMRC, London firm, BDO, are already hot on the trail of the bad guys who took Rangers right to the very blink of oblivion.

And they are sifting through all the paperwork – both the on-line and the old fashioned sort – in order to find the electronic and paper trail which will lead them to the doors of the guilty men.

One thing I can already tell you from a well placed source, is that BDO boss Malcolm Cohen is staggered at the way the Craig Whyte appointed administrators, the already seriously under investigation Duff and Phelps, conducted their business.

The phrase used to me was that the BDO men think some of Duff and Phelps’ conduct beggars belief.

Once again, from a source close to someone who has had dealings with the BDO hotshots, they are on a different planet professionally from Duff and Phelps, who, during the period of Administration which led to Rangers’ Liquidation, lurched from one seemingly self induced crisis to another, changing their tune from one day to the next.

Duff and Phelps are already been probed by the Insolvency Practitioners Association as well as also being the subject of an investigation ordered by a clearly concerned High Court Judge, Lord Hodge.

Now they will have to face some serious questions from the all powerful BDO. The remit handed to BDO from HMRC is far reaching and allows their team of top investigators to do just about anything they want and ask any questions they wish, to anyone they choose to grill, in the quest to get to the truth.

And one of the men who will be grilled by BDO is Duff and Phelps senior partner, David Grier, a shadowy character who closeness to Lloyds Bank's man on the old Rangers board, the controversial Donald Muir, has never been properly explained.

The two are thought to be old Barrhead buddies and that backdrop to their subsequent involvement in the dodgy deal which saw conman Craig Whyte buy Rangers for a quid, on the understanding he would clear the club’s outstanding debt of £18M – the reason why Lloyds put Muir inside the Blue Room - has got the BDO radar pinging.

BDO want to know just who knew conman Whyte could only raise the £18M against assets owned by Rangers, at a time when he did not own Rangers? Did Grier know? Did Muir know?

It is also interesting to ponder one thing which had previously slipped under the radar until BDO homed in on it. Of all the people to whom Rangers owed money, only one organisation was paid off in full. Lloyds Bank.

Once more – and this comes from someone who is at the heart of it all – BDO already have a fair idea of what it was which happened and whether it was reckless or criminal, or even reckless criminality, the likelihood is increasing that someone will end up in the dock.

Not in the Civil Court of Session either, but in the Criminal High Court.

Those who watched the horror unfold and whose warnings and red alert flashes went unheeded now harbour high hopes that the guilty men will be punished.

And another source has made something else clear to me which no newspaper has bothered to report since the news broke a couple of weeks ago that HMRC wanted to appeal the Tax Tribunal case against Rangers which they lost.

That is, that although HMRC may be desperate to spend even more taxpayers’ money chasing Rangers, there is no guarantee that they will be allowed to do so.

What HMRC must now do is lodge a formal request to a panel of Special Commissioners and those Commissioners must sift through the charges and the judgement and decide whether or not there is a point of law which can be challenged. It will be a long job. And only if the Special Commissioners believe there is such a point of law, which the two senior lawyers, one of them a QC and a tax law expert, may have got wrong, will HMRC be granted the right of appeal.

To achieve that, HMRC must be specific on what points of law they want to challenge and there is a rigorous process for the tax man to go through before he has a chance of being given leave to appeal. A catch-all, taking in all the points of law which the two top tax lawyers ruled in Rangers favour on, will be dismissed by the Special Commissioners.

And the section of the judgment document written by the QC who is among the top tax law experts in Britain and the other top tax lawyer, was damning of the HMRC case.

However, even if the Special Commissioners were satisfied enough to give HMRC leave to appeal, that appeal could take between two and three years.

By which time Craig Whyte may well be in the clink. And who knows who will be in the cells on either side of him when BDO have finished their hunt for the rogues and rascals who ruined Rangers.

[elephants stoned 2,994]

The noose tightens.......

[Jonok 1,245]

Its my dearest wish that those who brought about this whole fiasco get banged up.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

Changed days from when he feted Whyte as the messiah and subsequently Green as the snake oil salesman.

[RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,894]

He would write better thriller novels than Jessica Fletcher! Everyone is a shadowy character in Leggos world

[TheLawMan 6,240]

Changed days from when he feted Whyte as the messiah and subsequently Green as the snake oil salesman.

"WHYTE ERA ARRIVES

CRAIG Whyte has done more than merely confound his critics by showing he is the real deal.

He has also displayed the sort of tough technique in talks which he will surely be able to use for the good of Rangers in the fututre.

WHYTE has got what he wanted, and made his dream of owning the club he supported as a boy come true, for just a quid.

At the moment, with the country skint and deep in Labour led debt, what Whyte has done is join the stampede of savvy shoppers to Poundland.

He has squeezed and squeezed, and then squeezed a bit more, and the result is there should be more money available for Rangers.

Remember, when Sir David Murray first put Rangers up for sale three years ago the asking price was in the region of £40M

When Whyte entered the scene a figure of around £20M started being quoted, and as recently as a couple of weeks ago it had dropped to Murray getting back the original £6M he paid for Rangers in 1988.

That Whyte ended pocketing the title deeds for Rangers, Ibrox Stadium and Murray Park for a quid tells us one thing. Do NOT play poker with this man.

However, such has been the length of time the talks have gone on, and such has been the amount of muckraking and mud hurled at Whyte, that there are many Rangers supporters who still doubt Whyte.

They though, will soon be won over if the new owner gets together quickly with manager-elect, Ally McCoist and lets him loose in the transfer market.

A couple of quick singings would soon dispel much of the doubts.

And such a move would also have the spin-off of boosting season ticket sales, which have dropped by 6,000 during the last two uncertain years.

Then there's Lloyds Bank. The very people who have been squeezing the lifeblood out of Rangers in a way that has led to their motives being questioned by many.

Part of the Whyte deal included a pledge he would pay off the club's debt to Lloyds.

When that is done, then all Whyte has to do to sent his approval ratings soaring among the Rangers support, is show Lloyds and the bank's man on the Rangers board, Donald Muir, the Ibrox door.

Maybe he could even restort to the language of the people....

PICK A WINDAE. YOU'RE LEAVING!

Of course there are still those who will attempt to pour cold water on the future of Rangers.

There's talk of anything up to £12M being needed to avoid Ibrox falling foul of Health and Safety regulations.

Of course The Stadium could do with a lick of paint and a look at the plumbing. But short of a full re-wiring job, it is hard to see where such an extraordinary figure comes from.

Equally, of course, there are many in the media who will stop at nothing to undermine Rangers, some with more subtle style than others.

This is something Craig Whyte will have to confront head-on in a much more aggressive way than Murray ever did.

If the new owner shows similar tough tactics in this area as he did in the negotiations which landed him Rangers for a quid, then that too would find favour with fans.

He should beware of smarm and charm - in particular from Odious Creep who will seek to worm his way in.

There are plenty of people within Ibrox who know the score in this area, and who can advise Whyte on the way forward, in order that Rangers no longer present an easy target to their many enemies.

Confounding the enemies of Rangers should be one of the first tasks for Craig Whyte now that he has confounded his critics."

"GREEN BIDS TO FOOL FANS BY PLAYING THE BIGOT CARD

IF Charles Green did not exist it would be hard for any spinner of fictional yarns to invent such a character.

For Charles Green, the oft proven liar, is beyond belief.

But he nothing if not predictable. It is just over a week since I pointed out Charles Green had started to circle his wagons and create a bogey man for Rangers supporters to focus their hate on.

At the time Charles Green settled on an easy target when he picked on Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan, a man who appears to have a clear agenda against Rangers.

If his clap-happy performance at Brechin, lacking in class and dignity, is anything to go by, he is now taking his tactic to a new low rabble rousing level.

My warning to Rangers fans was that they would be mugs to fall for the same three card trick, the same playing to their prejudices, for a second successive season.

For I pointed out that all Charles Green was doing was the same as Craig Whyte did when he lined up BBC Scotland as another easy target for supporters to hate, thus diverting their attention away from the way he was going about raping Rangers.

The result was that ace conman Craig Whyte got a way with it, with the consequences for Rangers and their fans, being administration, liquidation, demotion to the Third Division, a whopping SFA fine and an 18-month-long transfer embargo.

Perhaps the success of that Craig Whyte ploy was in Charles Green’s mind even before the game at Brechin when he let rip, pressing to nuclear button for Rangers fans by citing bigotry as one of the reasons when the SPL and SFA have come down to so hard on Rangers.

Or perhaps Charles Green’s advisors set him up to say it. After all, Charles Green has the same advisors Craig Whyte had when he unleashed his tirade against BBC Scotland.

Though those same advisors must have been in despair when Charles Green responded to the chant from Rangers fans of "If you hate Stewart Regan clap your hands," by doing just that.

Or perhaps Charles Green is a regular reader here and took his information about the SFA and SPL from this slot.

Though I have to say I cannot ever recall ever claiming, as Charles Green did, that while some of what has happened to Rangers was driven by bigotry, some of it has been driven by jealousy and some it has been driven by all the wrong reasons.

The reason that has never appeared here is simple. It is mumbo jumbo, as much of what spews from Charles Green’s mouth, when he is not telling lies, is.

That bit at the end, for instance, about some of it having been driven by all the wrong reasons, implies that bigotry and jealousy are not all the wrong reasons.

But let’s leave that aside for the moment.

Returning to Charles Green’s increasingly desperate moves to try and get supporters on his side in the week when he is going to launch a plea for them to buy season tickets, his bigoted broadside may have carried more weight had it not been handed on an exclusive plate to arch Rangers hater and rabid Celtic fan, BBC Scotland’s Chris “Scrote” McLaughlin.

BBC Scotland in general is loathed by Rangers supporters, with Chris "Scrote" McLaughlin a particular hate figure.

A wee mistake there Charlie.

Another wee blunder is in Charles Green having taken over a month to be able to pinpoint what every Rangers supporter knows and has been reading about here and talking about everywhere.

Simply, that there are a lot of hateful bigots out there in some of Scotland’s darkest places – Parkhead, Pittodrie, Easter Road and Tannadice in particular – and the evil which festers inside these cesspools has spewed all over Rangers.

Rangers supporters do not need me to tell them that. And they certainly do not need any oft-times proven liar and snake oil salesman such as Charles Green to deliver his dodgy spiel as a prelude to him trying to fill the coffers of the faceless men who own Rangers with the hard earned cash of rank and file Rangers supporters.

Of course Rangers fans want to support their team and Brechin City have been the first to benefit from their diehard support with a full house on Sunday.

But supporting Rangers does not mean they have to buy season tickets and stuff the pockets of Charles Green and those faceless man who own Rangers, with their hard earned dough by buying those season tickets.

What is quite the thing for them to do and also the right thing for them to do, is buy match day tickets on a game-to-game basis.

In fact, there is no requirement for Third Division matches at Ibrox to be all ticket. With crowds of around 25,000 to 30,000 expected, there is no reason why Rangers cannot revert to the old ways of paying at the gate.

Of course that is not Charles Green’s way. No, Charles Green’s way is to try and tempt Rangers supporters to cough up cash in advance so he can prove to the faceless men who own Rangers that there is, after all, a fast buck to be made out of Rangers fans.

Which is why, once again, Charles Green is trying to take those Rangers fans for mugs by playing the bigot card in the hope it can work as well for him as turning on BBC Scotland did for Craig Whyte, who was then able to go about raping Rangers unhindered while supporters turned their attention elsewhere.

Of course, if what worked for Craig Whyte was to work for Charles Green, then some may say he was right in the manner of how he is trying to treat Rangers supporters.

Now, more than ever, Rangers fans must be on their guard. And not just against Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster, Peter Lawwell, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hibernian, the Scottish Football Association and the Scottish Premier League.

Rangers supporters must also be on their guard against another enemy. The enemy within.

His name is Charles Green."

[Chef 436]

One thing good about leggo is he does not feel the need to be anonymous, doesn't need to hide and doesn't need to leave the country.

Foes sell books thougg

[Guardian 4,281]

Leggo the shadowy oft proven wrong bollocks talker.

The dudes got no credibility after his anti-Green stance.

The papers might not have mentioned it but the fact HMRC can only appeal a point of law was posted on here many times.

It's hardly news that Lloyds orchestrated the sale to get their money back. A shitty thing to do, but you can't fault their business logic. It's probably not illegal and they won't be charged.

Whyte and the admins and lawyers on the other hand almost certainly will face charges. And rightly so

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

Leggo the shadowy oft proven wrong bollocks talker.

The dudes got no credibility after his anti-Green stance.

The papers might not have mentioned it but the fact HMRC can only appeal a point of law was posted on here many times.

It's hardly news that Lloyds orchestrated the sale to get their money back. A shitty thing to do, but you can't fault their business logic. It's probably not illegal and they won't be charged.

Whyte and the admins and lawyers on the other hand almost certainly will face charges. And rightly so

It cant be legal if the money was obtained through false assets. Mind this cash was ''stolen'' off ticketus under false documentaion which had Ibrox as security when Whyte never owned Ibrox.

[ger50champ 300]

He would write better thriller novels than Jessica Fletcher! Everyone is a shadowy character in Leggos world

It's not so bad sometimes to have someone like Leggo doing what he does .Hes on our side ,that can not be argued .

[ger50champ 300]

Leggo the shadowy oft proven wrong bollocks talker.

The dudes got no credibility after his anti-Green stance.

The papers might not have mentioned it but the fact HMRC can only appeal a point of law was posted on here many times.

It's hardly news that Lloyds orchestrated the sale to get their money back. A shitty thing to do, but you can't fault their business logic. It's probably not illegal and they won't be charged.

Whyte and the admins and lawyers on the other hand almost certainly will face charges. And rightly so

c'mon mate not all of our support backed Green straight away .The bears have been turned around in stages .This is one of those times when we have to give the initial non believers the benefit of doubt .We are all Rangers family after all

[ger50champ 300]

Double post

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,404]

"It's hardly news that Lloyds orchestrated the sale to get their money back. A shitty thing to do, but you can't fault their business logic. It's probably not illegal and they won't be charged."

not illegal no, but almost certainly against fsa regs, 2 clear conflicts of interest, and a severe lack of "customer care".

given that they were at the time 60% state controlled their conduct is well worth looking at.

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

c'mon mate not all of our support backed Green straight away .The bears have been turned around in stages .This is one of those times when we have to give the initial non believers the benefit of doubt .We are all Rangers family after all

I agree. The Leggo bashing has to stop. I know he fucked up with re Green at the start, but he was man enough to say he was wrong and has be brilliant since. Back to the Leggo we all knew. Not many out there are on our side, and the ones that are get trampled on. No wonder our support get walked all over.

[Blumhoilann 6,715]

I agree. The Leggo bashing has to stop. I know he fucked up with re Green at the start, but he was man enough to say he was wrong and has be brilliant since. Back to the Leggo we all knew. Not many out there are on our side, and the ones that are get trampled on. No wonder our support get walked all over.

This

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,450]

I like Leggo....he's a Bear....a grumpy old Bear....a Bear with a good book to sell.....but he's on our side

[Maverick_Golfer 11]

Journalism too erratic for me, had a go at Green for no reason and then had to back-track...

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

"In fact, there is no requirement for Third Division matches at Ibrox to be all ticket. With crowds of around 25,000 to 30,000 expected, there is no reason why Rangers cannot revert to the old ways of paying at the gate."

Yeah right

[subcrawl 43]

What is Leggo's source of income these days?

[dummiesoot 16,288]

Journalism too erratic for me, had a go at Green for no reason and then had to back-track...

To be fair Craig Whyte was enough reason to be wary. Leggo went ott but was man enough to admit he was wrong. Unlike our enemies ...

[Jules Gers 66]

I`m not a leggo fan but I`ll give the guy his due, he speaks his mind and doesn`t play to the gallery like some.

[Bertent 2,081]

I`m not a leggo fan but I`ll give the guy his due, he speaks his mind and doesn`t play to the gallery like some.

Id say hes the Oscar nominee of FF such is his showmanship.

[Bad Robot 21,513]

"WHYTE ERA ARRIVES

CRAIG Whyte has done more than merely confound his critics by showing he is the real deal.

He has also displayed the sort of tough technique in talks which he will surely be able to use for the good of Rangers in the fututre.

WHYTE has got what he wanted, and made his dream of owning the club he supported as a boy come true, for just a quid.

At the moment, with the country skint and deep in Labour led debt, what Whyte has done is join the stampede of savvy shoppers to Poundland.

He has squeezed and squeezed, and then squeezed a bit more, and the result is there should be more money available for Rangers.

Remember, when Sir David Murray first put Rangers up for sale three years ago the asking price was in the region of £40M

When Whyte entered the scene a figure of around £20M started being quoted, and as recently as a couple of weeks ago it had dropped to Murray getting back the original £6M he paid for Rangers in 1988.

That Whyte ended pocketing the title deeds for Rangers, Ibrox Stadium and Murray Park for a quid tells us one thing. Do NOT play poker with this man.

However, such has been the length of time the talks have gone on, and such has been the amount of muckraking and mud hurled at Whyte, that there are many Rangers supporters who still doubt Whyte.

They though, will soon be won over if the new owner gets together quickly with manager-elect, Ally McCoist and lets him loose in the transfer market.

A couple of quick singings would soon dispel much of the doubts.

And such a move would also have the spin-off of boosting season ticket sales, which have dropped by 6,000 during the last two uncertain years.

Then there's Lloyds Bank. The very people who have been squeezing the lifeblood out of Rangers in a way that has led to their motives being questioned by many.

Part of the Whyte deal included a pledge he would pay off the club's debt to Lloyds.

When that is done, then all Whyte has to do to sent his approval ratings soaring among the Rangers support, is show Lloyds and the bank's man on the Rangers board, Donald Muir, the Ibrox door.

Maybe he could even restort to the language of the people....

PICK A WINDAE. YOU'RE LEAVING!

Of course there are still those who will attempt to pour cold water on the future of Rangers.

There's talk of anything up to £12M being needed to avoid Ibrox falling foul of Health and Safety regulations.

Of course The Stadium could do with a lick of paint and a look at the plumbing. But short of a full re-wiring job, it is hard to see where such an extraordinary figure comes from.

Equally, of course, there are many in the media who will stop at nothing to undermine Rangers, some with more subtle style than others.

This is something Craig Whyte will have to confront head-on in a much more aggressive way than Murray ever did.

If the new owner shows similar tough tactics in this area as he did in the negotiations which landed him Rangers for a quid, then that too would find favour with fans.

He should beware of smarm and charm - in particular from Odious Creep who will seek to worm his way in.

There are plenty of people within Ibrox who know the score in this area, and who can advise Whyte on the way forward, in order that Rangers no longer present an easy target to their many enemies.

Confounding the enemies of Rangers should be one of the first tasks for Craig Whyte now that he has confounded his critics."

"GREEN BIDS TO FOOL FANS BY PLAYING THE BIGOT CARD

IF Charles Green did not exist it would be hard for any spinner of fictional yarns to invent such a character.

For Charles Green, the oft proven liar, is beyond belief.

But he nothing if not predictable. It is just over a week since I pointed out Charles Green had started to circle his wagons and create a bogey man for Rangers supporters to focus their hate on.

At the time Charles Green settled on an easy target when he picked on Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan, a man who appears to have a clear agenda against Rangers.

If his clap-happy performance at Brechin, lacking in class and dignity, is anything to go by, he is now taking his tactic to a new low rabble rousing level.

My warning to Rangers fans was that they would be mugs to fall for the same three card trick, the same playing to their prejudices, for a second successive season.

For I pointed out that all Charles Green was doing was the same as Craig Whyte did when he lined up BBC Scotland as another easy target for supporters to hate, thus diverting their attention away from the way he was going about raping Rangers.

The result was that ace conman Craig Whyte got a way with it, with the consequences for Rangers and their fans, being administration, liquidation, demotion to the Third Division, a whopping SFA fine and an 18-month-long transfer embargo.

Perhaps the success of that Craig Whyte ploy was in Charles Green’s mind even before the game at Brechin when he let rip, pressing to nuclear button for Rangers fans by citing bigotry as one of the reasons when the SPL and SFA have come down to so hard on Rangers.

Or perhaps Charles Green’s advisors set him up to say it. After all, Charles Green has the same advisors Craig Whyte had when he unleashed his tirade against BBC Scotland.

Though those same advisors must have been in despair when Charles Green responded to the chant from Rangers fans of "If you hate Stewart Regan clap your hands," by doing just that.

Or perhaps Charles Green is a regular reader here and took his information about the SFA and SPL from this slot.

Though I have to say I cannot ever recall ever claiming, as Charles Green did, that while some of what has happened to Rangers was driven by bigotry, some of it has been driven by jealousy and some it has been driven by all the wrong reasons.

The reason that has never appeared here is simple. It is mumbo jumbo, as much of what spews from Charles Green’s mouth, when he is not telling lies, is.

That bit at the end, for instance, about some of it having been driven by all the wrong reasons, implies that bigotry and jealousy are not all the wrong reasons.

But let’s leave that aside for the moment.

Returning to Charles Green’s increasingly desperate moves to try and get supporters on his side in the week when he is going to launch a plea for them to buy season tickets, his bigoted broadside may have carried more weight had it not been handed on an exclusive plate to arch Rangers hater and rabid Celtic fan, BBC Scotland’s Chris “Scrote” McLaughlin.

BBC Scotland in general is loathed by Rangers supporters, with Chris "Scrote" McLaughlin a particular hate figure.

A wee mistake there Charlie.

Another wee blunder is in Charles Green having taken over a month to be able to pinpoint what every Rangers supporter knows and has been reading about here and talking about everywhere.

Simply, that there are a lot of hateful bigots out there in some of Scotland’s darkest places – Parkhead, Pittodrie, Easter Road and Tannadice in particular – and the evil which festers inside these cesspools has spewed all over Rangers.

Rangers supporters do not need me to tell them that. And they certainly do not need any oft-times proven liar and snake oil salesman such as Charles Green to deliver his dodgy spiel as a prelude to him trying to fill the coffers of the faceless men who own Rangers with the hard earned cash of rank and file Rangers supporters.

Of course Rangers fans want to support their team and Brechin City have been the first to benefit from their diehard support with a full house on Sunday.

But supporting Rangers does not mean they have to buy season tickets and stuff the pockets of Charles Green and those faceless man who own Rangers, with their hard earned dough by buying those season tickets.

What is quite the thing for them to do and also the right thing for them to do, is buy match day tickets on a game-to-game basis.

In fact, there is no requirement for Third Division matches at Ibrox to be all ticket. With crowds of around 25,000 to 30,000 expected, there is no reason why Rangers cannot revert to the old ways of paying at the gate.

Of course that is not Charles Green’s way. No, Charles Green’s way is to try and tempt Rangers supporters to cough up cash in advance so he can prove to the faceless men who own Rangers that there is, after all, a fast buck to be made out of Rangers fans.

Which is why, once again, Charles Green is trying to take those Rangers fans for mugs by playing the bigot card in the hope it can work as well for him as turning on BBC Scotland did for Craig Whyte, who was then able to go about raping Rangers unhindered while supporters turned their attention elsewhere.

Of course, if what worked for Craig Whyte was to work for Charles Green, then some may say he was right in the manner of how he is trying to treat Rangers supporters.

Now, more than ever, Rangers fans must be on their guard. And not just against Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster, Peter Lawwell, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hibernian, the Scottish Football Association and the Scottish Premier League.

Rangers supporters must also be on their guard against another enemy. The enemy within.

His name is Charles Green."

ffs move on. I can't believe you sat and cut, pasted and highlighted all those links to try put the boot into a guy who is defending our club even when the guy has already said he fucked it up.