Players need to pick it up again

[skinnymate1690 773]

Wasn't going to post anything like this seeing as we have been winning but a result like yesterday was always going to come given the way we have played over the past few weeks IMO

The amount of sloppy passes recently and yesterday in particular have been shocking . And add to that the lack of concentration and laziness from some players really need to be looked at .

Also I would say that we need to be a bit quicker in the build up play because too often we are to slow and allow the opposition to get everyone behind the ball

Normally I would have a go at ally for the tactics but regardless of who he puts out there we should be seeing better performances IMO . Although I still think black should be dropped and little should only be used as a striker .

Now the league is pretty much wrapped up but the players should by now have all gelled and I think we should be watching a better style football than we are at the moment

All this is just my opinion , don't shoot me down

[justiston 91]

I do not think I have seen more miss-placed passes, passes out of play, or just soft passes which would never make the team mate, in a game in 16 years. I did not like the three central midfield from the start, and felt that by doing that, it forced us to use them at times. Doesn't help when Hegarty is a poor crosser and Little is not a right winger and then evidently cannot track back.

But as you say - Not to concerned by the result, this season is about building and just getting out the league, blips along the way can be taken and dealt with.

[AlBear. 8,499]

Complacency is our biggest hurdle over the next 2-3 seasons. Majority of our squad are new to Rangers or are still young men, they will learn that at Rangers complacency is the same as failure and failure is not tolerated. There is no one better than our manager to teach them this.

[TMB 14,167]

The football isn't good to watch and that's Ally's responsibility. Why are we playing with 3 CMs at times? Why is Little being used as a winger? Why wasn't Templeton used as a winger against Queens? Why do we constantly play with one up front against part-timers?

Yes we're going to win this League but we have the second highest wage bill in Scotland, fantastic training facilities, fans, and stadium. Winning this League at a canter whilst playing attractive football shouldn't be too much to ask.

[scarkev 3,540]

The only positive I can take from yesterdays result is that it may give them a wee kick up the arse. Had wee scraped to a 1-0 win the majority would be happy because we won despite to decline in our performances over the past few games. Hopefully this result and the reaction to it will turn out to be a positive.

[AlBear. 8,499]

The football isn't good to watch and that's Ally's responsibility. Why are we playing with 3 CMs at times? Why is Little being used as a winger? Why wasn't Templeton used as a winger against Queens? Why do we constantly play with one up front against part-timers?

Yes we're going to win this League but we have the second highest wage bill in Scotland, fantastic training facilities, fans, and stadium. Winning this League at a canter whilst playing attractive football shouldn't be too much to ask.

Don't know if we watched different games but Lewis wasn't playing CM.

We play a 4-2-3-1 the same as the majority of teams around the world, it has become the generic formation like 4-4-2 was as I was growing up. When utilised correctly it can become a 4-5-1 ( ) , a 4-3-3, 4-2-4 or a 4-4-1-1 for whatever is necessary in a game.

[Right_To_Censor 1,951]

just think, last season we were coasting the league with 17 points then the unthinkable happened, theres not a cats chance in hell ally would lose that margin again is there?

you would think players that have been at the club for a very long time could do the basics, set pieces etc, McKay has no end product, temps just wants to go for glory instead of setting up the pass, mcculoch should never have been dumped back in defence when he was scoring a shit load of goals along with little, I just don't get ally's style of play

albear, we didn't play 4 2 3 1 we play 4 1 4 1 Jensen the reason they are all out of posistion

[TMB 14,167]

Don't know if we watched different games but Lewis wasn't playing CM.

We play a 4-2-3-1 the same as the majority of teams around the world, it has become the generic formation like 4-4-2 was as I was growing up. When utilised correctly it can become a 4-5-1 ( ) , a 4-3-3, 4-2-4 or a 4-4-1-1 for whatever is necessary in a game.

I know that formation can be good but I just don't think Ally can make it work. I'm not a big fan of people being played out of position either. Sometimes it works bit most of the time it doesn't. Last season we had Bartley at right-back, Papac at CM, Edu on the right-wing, Ortiz on the left-wing, etc. Sorry but it isn't for me.

[AlBear. 8,499]

just think, last season we were coasting the league with 17 points then the unthinkable happened, theres not a cats chance in hell ally would lose that margin again is there?

you would think players that have been at the club for a very long time could do the basics, set pieces etc, McKay has no end product, temps just wants to go for glory instead of setting up the pass, mcculoch should never have been dumped back in defence when he was scoring a shit load of goals along with little, I just don't get ally's style of play

McKay has no end product - 15 assists contradicts that. At 18 he will not be amazing every game, hence why Ally chooses to bring him on rather than start him at the moment.

temps just wants to go for glory - That's why we bought him. Certain players make things happen, Davie is one of those players.

mcculoch should never have been dumped back in defence - Who else would have played there?

I just don't get ally's style of play - IMO, he likes to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. He doesn't want us playing pass after pass allowing the opposition to regroup. This leads to the long ball being used more than most would like. His style is to create as many chances as possible. Our problem yesterday, but not a problem in general, was scoring those chances.

[scarkev 3,540]

just think, last season we were coasting the league with 17 points then the unthinkable happened, theres not a cats chance in hell ally would lose that margin again is there?

you would think players that have been at the club for a very long time could do the basics, set pieces etc, McKay has no end product, temps just wants to go for glory instead of setting up the pass, mcculoch should never have been dumped back in defence when he was scoring a shit load of goals along with little, I just don't get ally's style of play

albear, we didn't play 4 2 3 1 we play 4 1 4 1 Jensen the reason they are all out of posistion

Formations aren't that important in the modern game and probably never have been. In a good team formations will be interchangeable as the game progresses. The problem we have is the balance within that formation and the philosophy of how to play within it.

If you are going to play with one recognized striker (as alot of clubs do) it is imperative you get runners from midfield, players close to him and options down the flanks from the full backs. Now we get that from Wallace but with Hegarty filling in at right back and Little being shunted into a Right sided role we dont have an attacking option down the right which limits our attacks. The other issue is that we didnt play with a number 10 yesterday. Macleod was asked to play that role and he did reasonably well but when we play Mcculloch who has no real pace or mobility we need someone just behind with pacy and guile to play off him like Sheils, Mckay or Crawford.

[skinnymate1690 773]

McKay has no end product - 15 assists contradicts that. At 18 he will not be amazing every game, hence why Ally chooses to bring him on rather than start him at the moment.

temps just wants to go for glory - That's why we bought him. Certain players make things happen, Davie is one of those players.

mcculoch should never have been dumped back in defence - Who else would have played there?

I just don't get ally's style of play - IMO, he likes to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. He doesn't want us playing pass after pass allowing the opposition to regroup. This leads to the long ball being used more than most would like. His style is to create as many chances as possible. Our problem yesterday, but not a problem in general, was scoring those chances.

Re your last point , if that's the case and ally wants to play that style of play then why do you think the players aren't listening to him ? Because our build up play is far too slow alot of the time why allows to opposition to get back behind the ball , and the long ball to jig isn't working but we continue to lump it up to him .

Don't get me wrong there have been spells when we have played good football but it only lasts for a few minutes then it reverts back to what we are used to

[AlBear. 8,499]

Re your last point , if that's the case and ally wants to play that style of play then why do you think the players aren't listening to him ? Because our build up play is far too slow alot of the time why allows to opposition to get back behind the ball , and the long ball to jig isn't working but we continue to lump it up to him .

Don't get me wrong there have been spells when we have played good football but it only lasts for a few minutes then it reverts back to what we are used to

It has been slow at times, particularly when Black is in the side. In the premier league that ability to put your foot on the ball and dictate the pace of a game is a valuable asset. The problem is we are in SFL3 and like you say when the opposition lose the ball they retreat in numbers, pace is the key to success, the quicker we get from back to front the more chances of catching them out. This invariably means long passing is the way. I don't mind it, yes I don't want every pass to be long the same as I don't want every pass to be short, long passing is a requirement in football. It can spread a game, cut out a defensive line etc Jig had an off day yesterday that was clear but his general hold up play this season has been good.