bridgeman 12 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This is what the winners and losers get in our present league set up at the end of the current season if no league re-construction takes placeScottish Premier LeagueSPL Champions - SPL Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Champions League placeSPL Positions 2, 3, 4 - League Position Prize Money + Europa League placeSPL Bottom Team - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 1 + Parachute MoneyDivision 1.1st Division Champions - Division 1 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to SPL League1st Division Bottom 2 Teams - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 2 + Parachute MoneyDivision 2.2nd Division Champions - Division 2 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Play-Off Winners - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Bottom 2 Teams - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 2 + Parachute MoneyDivision 3.3rd Division Champions - Division 3 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 23rd Division Play-Off Winners - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 2This is what the winners and losers get in our present league set up at the end of the current season if the plannedleague re-construction is to take place next seasonScottish Premier LeagueSPL Champions - SPL Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Champions League placeSPL Positions 2, 3, 4 - League Position Prize Money + Europa League placeDivision 1.1st Division Champions - Division 1 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize MoneyAll other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyThere will be no Promotion or Relegation from Division 1Division 2.2nd Division Champions - Division 2 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Runners Up - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 1All other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyDivision 3.3rd Division Champions - Division 3 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize MoneyAll other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyDivision 2 (8 teams remaining) and Division 3 (All 10 teams) will be merged to create an 18 team leagueThis will mean that all 3rd Division teams will 'Promoted' to a new Division 2Looks like the winners out of all of this are the SPL teams, and, the top 2 in Divison 2.All other teams are losers or remain the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie29 781 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdocherty72 215 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 So the same as right now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCables 11 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The teams that benefit most appear to be the ones finishing below us in the 3rd division. They win promotion regardless of performances this season. As well as the teams avoiding relegation of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 in the 12-12-18 set up the winners are the other 17 clubs who get to play us next year and that's a big bonus to the div 3 teams who get us this year as well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothwellbear 1,392 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 It sounds incredibly boring and will further make Scottish football both confusing and frankly shite. Supporters of clubs will keep staying away if they are seeing the same teams over and over again. The quality is getting worse, not better. Its a blatant short term money making exercise that has no real long term gain.It is a shite and boring idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranter 136 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This reconstruction is only a ploy to get our TV rights to keep sky on board.We should be telling them if we have to give up TV rights we will not be going to away games.Sky wont pay good money to show games from empty grounds.If the boycott of tanadump is a success then surely the other SFL clubs will take note. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,971 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This is what the winners and losers get in our present league set up at the end of the current season if the plannedleague re-construction is to take place next seasonScottish Premier LeagueSPL Champions - SPL Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Champions League placeSPL Positions 2, 3, 4 - League Position Prize Money + Europa League placeDivision 1.1st Division Champions - Division 1 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize MoneyAll other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyThere will be no Promotion or Relegation from Division 1Division 2.2nd Division Champions - Division 2 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Runners Up - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 1All other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyDivision 3.3rd Division Champions - Division 3 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize MoneyAll other teams will get League Position Prize Money onlyDivision 2 (8 teams remaining) and Division 3 (All 10 teams) will be merged to create an 18 team leagueThis will mean that all 3rd Division teams will 'Promoted' to a new Division 2Looks like the winners out of all of this are the SPL teams, and, the top 2 in Divison 2.All other teams are losers or remain the same.Surely one team will be relegated from SPL to Div 1 and one team promoted from Div 1 to SPL?In future years the "carrot" for the clubs voting for the change is a "fairer" distribution of the TV money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/why-numbers-just-dont-add-up-1522222Decent article from the DR for a change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,082 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 "How can they call this change? It’s like turning yesterday’s skid-marked underpants inside out before pulling them back on for day two." hahahahaha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 "How can they call this change? It’s like turning yesterday’s skid-marked underpants inside out before pulling them back on for day two." hahahahaha!Great quote - liked this one too'What bright spark came up with this one? The same guy who told Mario Balotelli to paint his £160k Bentley in camouflage colours so that nobody in Manchester city centre would spot him?' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain1712 336 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This is what the winners and losers get in our present league set up at the end of the current season if no league re-construction takes placeScottish Premier LeagueSPL Champions - SPL Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Champions League placeSPL Positions 2, 3, 4 - League Position Prize Money + Europa League placeSPL Bottom Team - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 1 + Parachute MoneyDivision 1.1st Division Champions - Division 1 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to SPL League1st Division Bottom 2 Teams - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 2 + Parachute MoneyDivision 2.2nd Division Champions - Division 2 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Play-Off Winners - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 12nd Division Bottom 2 Teams - League Position Prize Money + Relegation to Division 2 + Parachute MoneyDivision 3.3rd Division Champions - Division 3 Championship Trophy, First Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 23rd Division Play-Off Winners - League Position Prize Money + Promotion to Division 2Looks like the winners out of all of this are the SPL teams, and, the top 2 in Divison 2.All other teams are losers or remain the same.Nope the biggest winners are the third division teams who will get us in their league for another season Prob a well thought out bribe by the corrupt cabal in their effort to get enough favourable votes ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain1712 336 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This reconstruction is only a ploy to get our TV rights to keep sky on board.We should be telling them if we have to give up TV rights we will not be going to away games.Sky wont pay good money to show games from empty grounds.If the boycott of tanadump is a success then surely the other SFL clubs will take note.Oh but sky will, if there are no bears at the away games where do you think we are going to watch it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueoutthedome 87 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 So we start again in division three and support seventeen teams on the road up again no wonder they are all happy with this the only team that loses out of this shambles is us .oh and i forgot more tv money for these crooks running our game all we are doing is subsidising the whole of Scottish Football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 in the 12-12-18 set up the winners are the other 17 clubs who get to play us next year and that's a big bonus to the div 3 teams who get us this year as well!It's not a bonus for us is it though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 It's not a bonus for us is it though?That was my point - the winners out of this reconstruction would be the other 17 clubs in the same division as us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2012 123 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 One possible bonus for us, We might get to keep the Division 3 trophy for all time . If it's the same one every year it's a nice looking one.Otherwise we don't lose or gain but overall we would have an easier year than we expected as we would mainly play the teams we know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecowboy 92 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This reconstruction is only a ploy to get our TV rights to keep sky on board.We should be telling them if we have to give up TV rights we will not be going to away games.Sky wont pay good money to show games from empty grounds.If the boycott of tanadump is a success then surely the other SFL clubs will take note.dont think Sky care how many people turn up, they would prefer us all to watch on TV, so thats a non starter.dying to boycott for some reason?seems that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecowboy 92 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 So we start again in division three and support seventeen teams on the road up again no wonder they are all happy with this the only team that loses out of this shambles is us .oh and i forgot more tv money for these crooks running our game all we are doing is subsidising the whole of Scottish Football.NoDivision 2 and 17 teams. as for supporting other teams, they also support us, as with no one to play we dont have a game.silly season or just daft economics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 wonder how many SPL teams will still be alive by the time we're back in the top flight.Sky TV money will be vastly reduced by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy 4,472 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Utter bullshit.And I thought we'd seen the last of that Annan death trap pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/why-numbers-just-dont-add-up-1522222Decent article from the DR for a change.Not a fan of Jackson at all but have to agree fully with this....they conducted a SFA survey and most fans wanted less games vs the same team to give more diversity to the league and almost everyone wanted a pyramid system. Longmuir is unfortunately giving up on his principles for a seat at the table and the nick clegg analogy is apt...if they go this route we will be railroaded into tv deals and potentially further sanctions as well as a slap in the face for this year...added to that once the lets fuck rangers feeling passes fans of other clubs will see this for what it is and even more will walk away from the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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