Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The summer of 2012 was a strange old one, for the first time i remember clubs listened to what the fans wanted.Fans wanted Rangers out the SPL and threatened to boycott their own clubs if they didn't get their own way in a display that proved once and for all what we've been saying for years "you hate our club more than you love your own!".Once they announced fast track plans to put us in division 1, our fans said "no thanks" - and Green listened, McCoist listened, and we went along to division 3 in a very sportingly manner, integrity intact.Maybe now we should demonstrate fan power once again and demand Green resigns from Scottish football. We've nothing to play for between now & the end of the season anyway and Scottish football is just waiting for the life support machine to be turned off.There are alot of options for us to explore, but having an SFA membership is holding us back - England won't entertain applications from clubs holding memberships in what they see as their 'sister' organisations. There's no real urgency and we aren't exactly on the market for something new sitting in essentially a comfort zone with our SFA membership knowing in the back of our minds that nothing will change.It's a roll of the dice, a pretty big one, but we have £22m in cash in the bank and no debt as Mr. Green continues to remind us. It really is now or never. Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith, you sink or you swim. We can stay here and sink, or we can dive in and see where it leads us.We need to think about the long term now, 10 years, 25 years, 40 years... where are we? This country has led us to exponential decay, from the best team in Britain in 1992 to a team that couldn't compete with Championship level wages in 2011/12. Where does that put us in 2022? It sickens me to see clubs like Stoke fork out millions in transfer fees & wages when we can't even sign 2nd rate Scottish defedners like Craig Conway because he can get more money playing in the Championship. I would fully back Charles Green to inform the SFA & SFL we will be issuing our immediate resignation from the SFL & Scottish football - then on Monday morning exploring every avenue for a new lease of life beginning in august 2013. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 So all the season tickets we bought would have been a waste of money, all the hospitality we've got booked would be cancelled and our income streams would cease immediately?Sounds like a plan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcoholic 1,348 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I would fully back Charles Green to inform the SFA & SFL we will be issuing our immediate resignation from the SFL & Scottish football - then on Monday morning exploring every avenue for a new lease of life beginning in august 2013.I wouldn't. That just doesn't make sense.He may do it the other way round however. I mean who leaves a job without another job to go to first? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro1976 162 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 mate as far as i am concerned we are associate members and need not give the two years written notification to remove ourselves from the league. so yeah in my opinion lets get to. ok in my other post, lets get outta here, i only said i had agreed with beginning a bright new future for our club, which may have meant closing he club as a scottish institution and moving on. am not sure if i can put into words what i mean, but we are going no where. so what happens if they dont allow us to join without concessions. they will want us to plead with them. no i wld raher walk away and start a fresh than be for evermore at the mercy of these chunts, forever reminding us how they, and i dont just mean the tarriers, i mean the whole of scottish footbal let us play in this god forsaken country. . i wont be here come independence, if it gets forced thru. lets make thge move on our terms and not theirs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 I wouldn't. That just doesn't make sense.He may do it the other way round however. I mean who leaves a job without another job to go to first?what if your going nowhere in your current job and we lived in a world where employers don't offer contracts to employees contracted elsewhere?thats the situation we find ourselves in. Like i said, sometimes you need to roll the dice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbit bear 139 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We've just sold £22million of shares and you think we're going to resign from the league, and all the shareholders would be delighted with that news. ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 We've just sold £22million of shares and you think we're going to resign from the league, and all the shareholders would be delighted with that news. ffs no, i think we should. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yes, lets resign from the league and look like idiots.Great plan.Absolutely stunning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbit bear 139 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I know you're pssd off with what's happening Ricky, so am l, but you can't have all those people investing in the club, then just resign, unless you have some kind of a plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 I know you're pssd off with what's happening Ricky, so am l, but you can't have all those people investing in the club, then just resign, unless you have some kind of a plan.why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 why not?Because it would be fucking stupid, and playing into the hands of the scum that tried to kill our club off.Suicide, I believe, is the common term for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbit bear 139 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 why not? Is this a wind up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Flawless plan. Apart from the many flaws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Because it would be fucking stupid, and playing into the hands of the scum that tried to kill our club off.Suicide, I believe, is the common term for it.and was is staying to play football in Scotland?it's like being aboard a sinking ship. We can stick around with a few other survivors on the top deck hoping a rescue team comes, or you can jump aboard a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean and pick a direction to row in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 and was is staying to play football in Scotland?it's like being aboard a sinking ship. We can stick around with a few other survivors on the top deck hoping a rescue team comes, or you can jump aboard a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean and pick a direction to row in. Good luck with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,503 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 you can jump aboard a lifeboat in the middle of the oceanWho's your lifeboat? I think that's the issue. Saying doors will open if we are no longer members of the SFA is simply nonsense.FIFA and UEFA will currently block any such move. It may be possible after long legal battles and extreme pressure on these bodies by a number of clubs from different countries.But to resign from your FA now and simply wait on this happening is a complete and utter joke of an idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Good luck with that.good luck with your vision of the future, playing football in somewhat of a morgue.welcome to our live coverage of the SPL 2018... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 There's not a lot of fans rallying round for this suggestion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Who's your lifeboat? I think that's the issue. Saying doors will open if we are no longer members of the SFA is simply nonsense.no it's not. When we were in administration SkySports interviewed the EFL chairman and he said they would not entertain applications from clubs with memberships to sister organisations out of respect. He then said there would be nothing stopping a club with no membership elsewhere making applications to the EFL, and the process would then be decided by a vote of the EFL clubs.i'd rather take that chance and play exhibition matches in the meantime, than watch my club die with the rest of the clusb in this country - it's inevitable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 good luck with your vision of the future, playing football in somewhat of a morgue.Sorry, I must ave missed the part where I laid out my "vision for the future" when I was busy laughing at your suggestion that we basically just kill ourselves off, after surviving the last year.As it happens, I have a vision........it involves us just continuing winning whatever division we are in and getting on with it. I enjoy playing with my rattle way too much to chuck it out of the pram. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 i'd rather take that chance and play exhibition matches in the meantime, than watch my club die with the rest of the clusb in this country - it's inevitable.No thanks.The footballing equivalent of the Harlem Globe Trotters already exist across the city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sorry, I must ave missed the part where I laid out my "vision for the future" when I was busy laughing at your suggestion that we basically just kill ourselves off, after surviving the last year.As it happens, I have a vision........it involves us just continuing winning whatever division we are in and getting on with it. I enjoy playing with my rattle way too much to chuck it out of the pram.kill ourselves off? I dont get the pessimism that we couldnt ever possibly find somewhere else to play, make successful applications to join the english pyramid system, or get on board with an atlantic league. Scandinavian, dutch, belgian, russian teams are all crying out to form new leagues which can allow their clubs to compete with the elite leagues in europe.So many of us all talk about how Scottish football is as good as dead, perhaps im the only one who genuinely believes that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,503 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 no it's not. When we were in administration SkySports interviewed the EFL chairman and he said they would not entertain applications from clubs with memberships to sister organisations out of respect. He then said there would be nothing stopping a club with no membership elsewhere making applications to the EFL, and the process would then be decided by a vote of the EFL clubs.i'd rather take that chance and play exhibition matches in the meantime, than watch my club die with the rest of the clusb in this country - it's inevitable.I don't believe what I'm reading here.... please please for your own credibility tell me you don't believe any of this pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcoholic 1,348 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 or get on board with an atlantic league. Scandinavian, dutch, belgian, russian teams are all crying out to form new leagues which can allow their clubs to compete with the elite leagues in europe.Nothing to get on board with though is there? There is no Atlantic League. And I'm not really reading much, or hearing about any of the other teams crying out to form new leagues as you say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 its a plan...just not a very good one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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