Drunk and disorderly. 15,074 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We have a few defenders out injured and lost 2 goals at home on Saturday. We obviously lack defensive back up. Our young lads give their all but without a mentor such as Jig they become distracted. Our throw in that led to them scoring for example. Standing 3 foot from a player doesn't count as marking. Alexander was screaming at our defence minutes after each goal. Why? Because they made his job impossible. Our senior defenders should think what they could have done better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We have the 3rd meanest defence in Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,074 Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 We have the 3rd meanest defence in Scottish football.I know. But the two goals we lost yesterday were poor. One from our throw in mate. A better team would have ripped our defence to shreds to be honest. Don't you agree? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We have the 3rd meanest defence in Scottish football.Since we are in the 3rd division we should really be the 1st meanest in defence. Our defenders are getting paid more, are up against 3rd division strikers, and are backed up by one of the best goalkeepers in the country. Add to that the higher quality mids and forwards we have in comparison to our competitors which is important if you believe - the best form of defense is attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We have the 3rd meanest defence in Scottish football.We can be very very weak at the back at times mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 People have to start accepting that SFL3 isn't a million miles away from the spl for quality. We've seen some very good goals from these part time amateur strikers, good goalkeeping display's etc They're inconsistent with their good performances but they are capable of raising their game. It's a natural human trait to rise to challenges and tbh it annoys me that so many right their efforts off.Saying all that, we've kept 8 clean sheets in 20 league games. Even I was expecting a bit better than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraybluenose 99 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think we need to look at our defence. As much as we are 19 points clear, with a huge goal difference, our defence has made some very basic errors this season which if we could remove would see us picking up the trophy in Feb! Now these boys may well develop into a solid defence, however at present are vey much still work in progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falwheel 222 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am sure Ally will address our need for a quality defender once embargo has ended. It does seem poorly organised at times, i actually smiled a little when they scored the first, just watching the way the player celebrated even though they were getting beat 3-0 until he scored. He celebrated the way I would dream if I had the opportunity to score at Ibrox (preferably for Rangers), when they scored the 2nd, i stopped smiling.faure looks out of his depth at times, and he appears nervous on the ball. He trod on the ball at one point. The brazillian doesn't play like one (he is showing sign of improvement). Perry looking more composed and Wallace is better bombing forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am sure Ally will address our need for a quality defender once embargo has ended. It does seem poorly organised at times, i actually smiled a little when they scored the first, just watching the way the player celebrated even though they were getting beat 3-0 until he scored. He celebrated the way I would dream if I had the opportunity to score at Ibrox (preferably for Rangers), when they scored the 2nd, i stopped smiling.faure looks out of his depth at times, and he appears nervous on the ball. He trod on the ball at one point. The brazillian doesn't play like one (he is showing sign of improvement). Perry looking more composed and Wallace is better bombing forward.It is no coincidence that in the last two games all three goals have been conceded when he came on. I don't want to lay the blame at him door, but it is a fact that cannot be avoided. We looked solid enough at the back up until the point that Hegarty went off.Is there anyone else that can play RB? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It is no coincidence that in the last two games all three goals have been conceded when he came on. I don't want to lay the blame at him door, but it is a fact that cannot be avoided. We looked solid enough at the back up until the point that Hegarty went off.Is there anyone else that can play RB?Having to change your defence in the middle of a game will always cause problems for any team.We have no natural RB in our first team squad, some say Darren Cole is the most natural but some also say he was originally a CB. I don't know enough about the youth team to say if there are any promising RB's emerging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It is no coincidence that in the last two games all three goals have been conceded when he came on. I don't want to lay the blame at him door, but it is a fact that cannot be avoided. We looked solid enough at the back up until the point that Hegarty went off.Is there anyone else that can play RB?Alexander was on the pitch when we conceded the last three goals as well, so was Wallace, are these guys culpable as well?Faure wasn't at fault for either goal yesterday: Little failed to clear at the near post and Perry's header was awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Having to change your defence in the middle of a game will always cause problems for any team.We have no natural RB in our first team squad, some say Darren Cole is the most natural but some also say he was originally a CB. I don't know enough about the youth team to say if there are any promising RB's emerging.Little can play right back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Having to change your defence in the middle of a game will always cause problems for any team.We have no natural RB in our first team squad, some say Darren Cole is the most natural but some also say he was originally a CB. I don't know enough about the youth team to say if there are any promising RB's emerging.Agreed. Our defence has be subject to quite a few changes so far this season, and it that 3 games in a row we've lost a player to injury?Alexander was on the pitch when we conceded the last three goals as well, so was Wallace, are these guys culpable as well?Faure wasn't at fault for either goal yesterday: Little failed to clear at the near post and Perry's header was awful.Agreed. The whole team must accept responsibility for the goals. Last week it was Templeton's needless foul that lead to the goal. This week it a goal came from our throw-in.OK, Faure wasn't to blame for either goal, but his introduction may have unbalanced the defence. I don't want to have a go at Faure because he is just coming back from injury and if he can get a run of games he'll probably do us a good turn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Little can play right back?I forgot about that. Bring McKay back on the right wing and the problem is solved.Does anyone know what the deal is with Argyriou? Is he injured? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,378 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think out current defence is really poor.I think Wallace is going to be the only one who will and has proven himself to be good enough for us in the long term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah bar Wallace, none of our current defence will be first choice in a year or so's time.Infact wouldn't be suprised if alot of the current side aren't first choice within the next year or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Little can play right back?Here we go...His work rate and energy are suited to playing that role, getting up and down the line. Whether his defensive nous is up to the job, I don't know. He has played there before though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Big Jig will probably play RB if you ask him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Big Jig will probably play RB if you ask him.He'd run through a brick wall for Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,303 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 While I find it very hard to understand why Faure is thought to have the quality to be on our books never mind in the match squad I think the problem is more than who is playing in defence. We have gone from the meticulous man marking organisation under Walter to having 4 or 5 of our players standing beside each other at corners and free kicks with the operative word standing.Opposition players are allowed to move around and have the advantage of mostly unchallenged runs towards the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 People have to start accepting that SFL3 isn't a million miles away from the spl for quality. We've seen some very good goals from these part time amateur strikers, good goalkeeping display's etc They're inconsistent with their good performances but they are capable of raising their game. It's a natural human trait to rise to challenges and tbh it annoys me that so many right their efforts off.Saying all that, we've kept 8 clean sheets in 20 league games. Even I was expecting a bit better than that.Have to disagree with you as in my opinion the standard of football in that league is poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Have to disagree with you as in my opinion the standard of football in that league is poor.I didn't say it wasn't. I was saying it's not as far behind the spl as some people think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 While I find it very hard to understand why Faure is thought to have the quality to be on our books never mind in the match squad I think the problem is more than who is playing in defence. We have gone from the meticulous man marking organisation under Walter to having 4 or 5 of our players standing beside each other at corners and free kicks with the operative word standing.Opposition players are allowed to move around and have the advantage of mostly unchallenged runs towards the ball.A defensive coach is definitely needed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,303 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 A defensive coach is definitely needed!Or maybe a bit of work and discipline.Elsewhere on the pitch it was obvious which team had spent more time in training with the ball practicing passing and movement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Or maybe a bit of work and discipline.Elsewhere on the pitch it was obvious which team had spent more time in training with the ball practicing passing and movement.You have to wonder what the defenders do in training. Surely the must practice defending set pieces? Do you think there is a problem with communication at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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